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Though Christ said divorce was only permitable under adultery… with todays 'super' drugs (alcohol, cocaine, etc…) does anyone think divorce is permitable by God if one has major addictions?
My folks are more likely than not getting a divorce and my dad has more addicitions than I can name. Sadly, my entire life he's been hooked on something. Anyway, if adultery is not involved (though I have my speculations…), does anyone think it's right?
More than anything, I'm fearful of breaking God's commandment by not honouring him but I find it hard not to think negatively of him. He's horrible managing his money (several accounts leaving us with nothing) while he's doing these things and he lies constantly. My other sibilings have pretty much disowned him whereas I'm left feeling somewhat empathetic. He keeps making promises then breaking them, and though I don't want to doubt him, it's also hard to believe in him.
The best thing I can really do is pray and hope for Gods will to help him. What does anyone else think about this scenario in divorce?
Hi Jbl:
In order to answer your question, I need to ask if your mother is a Christian? It appears that from what you say of your dad he is not.
First, I am sorry that you are in this position.
Quote Sadly, my entire life he's been hooked on something. Anyway, if adultery is not involved (though I have my speculations…), does anyone think it's right? “I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, AND MARRIES ANOTHER commits adultery.” (Matthew 19:9)
Sexual infidelity by a mate is the only ground for a divorce that will allow the innocent mate to remarry.
In addition, the Bible’s words at 1 Corinthians 7:10-16, while encouraging marriage mates to stay together, allow for separation.
What does one do when a husband shows WILLFUL NONSUPPORT for example?
When getting married, a husband assumes the responsibility of providing for his wife and children. The man who willfully fails to provide the material necessities of life “has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8) Drugs can lead to such scenarios.Or what happens when the husband shows EXTREME PHYSICAL ABUSE? (Galatians 5:19-21; Titus 1:7) “Anyone loving violence [God’s] soul certainly hates.”—Psalm 11:5.
What if ABSOLUTE ENDANGERMENT OF ONE'S SPIRITUALITY is involved?—one's relationship with God. What if the other mate physically prevents the other from carrying out true worship? (Matthew 22:37; Acts 5:27-32.)
However, if divorce is pursued under such circumstances, one would not be free to enter a new marriage. According to the Bible, the only legitimate ground for divorce that permits remarriage is adultery or “fornication.”—Matthew 5:32.
Quote More than anything, I'm fearful of breaking God's commandment by not honouring him but I find it hard not to think negatively of him.
While God commands us to honour our parents, what do we do when our parents are dishonouring God? Do we honour their dishonor? Honouring our parents is something we should do. But there are many more scriptures we should also follow. Think back to one of my examples above–extreme violence. If God hates anyone loving violence….should we honour someone that God hates? We must show balance in this. If your father asks you to do something that goes against our heavenly Father's will, whom will we follow?In response:
Both my parents were both raised Jehovah's Witnessess but neither are religiously active. My mother has a fairly solid faith, my father I'm a little more weary. I'm aware of the scriptures teaching that a believing-woman should not divorce her unbelieving-husband (and vice versa) because the spouse is sanctified through their relationship. However, my father isn't an outspoken atheist.
My brother (I've concluded) is agnostic, and my sister undecided. As for myself, I'm religiously curious.
Anyway, thanks for everyones responses.
I'll be totally honest with you, God hates divorce. If the divorce involves children then you shouldn't do it. Children are precious in the eyes of God
*All I can say is that God loves you!
Hi ACC,
Eph 5
“20Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;21Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.”
Note how the bond between Christ and the members of his body[very strong] is compared to the bond between man and his reunited rib.
Hi jbl
I just came across your topic, and I can't tell you how sad I am, reading about your situation you and your family is in. I will pray for you, but I also want you to know how great a respect I have for you, the strength and courage you show.
Honor you Father at all times, he is your father no matter what, but as has already stated, don't let him dishonor yourself. We are living in sad times, and they will get worse before they will get better. I am blessed with a wife of 47 years, and four children, who were not so blessed as we were, every one has been divorced, and really, this is what your question was on, divorce.
I just recently heard a minister talking about that subject, and the way he explained it made a lot of sense to me.
When we get married we make a covenant with our mate, and God as our witness. Adultery is a sin to the one who is married, and has sex with another. When you get divorced you commit the sin of braking the covenant you made between you and your spouse, and of course God hates that. But if life comes to a point were staying together would produce nothing but sin, are we required to stay in that situation. We are required to ask God to forgive us for all and any sin, and we know when we do he will forgive us. This minister almost made it to simple but I'm sure that was not what he was trying to do. He tried to impress the importance of doing everything possible to avoid a divorce, but if everything failed to get a divorce, and ask God for forgiveness for braking your promise. To remarry is not living in sin, because you have made a new covenant.
I have to admit, this struck me a bit strange at first, but as I thought about it, it made sense to me. I hope it will make sense to you.
God bless you and keep you my Friend.I believe that adultery covers much broader ground than most people think. If you seek other Gods then you commit adultery against God. The act of putting drugs, alcohol, porno, or even ones self, before what was once the apple of your eye is comitting adultery. The physical act of sex with another is proof of adultery, but aldultery is an act of the heart, or turning your heart to another or something other than what you once loved more than anything else. I certainly cannot speak for Christ, and God please forgive me if I'm wrong, but from reading the scriptures I believe its more turning your heart to another or something other, than it is a physical act. Infidelity can be forgiven and dealt with but a change of heart is another thing entirely.
Kolumbo – WELCOME!
Good to hear from you. You have a lot of good things here. I agree with you, that the condition of the heart needs to be guarded.
Glad you are here,
MandyHmm shape up Men?
The Lord sayest in prophcey, he will remove the gift of Inheratance from the house of Man, that loves war?Yes Kolumbo, what is the foundations of adultery from Gods Eyes VEIW?
Revenge is his, the wives ravished?
Isa 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
Jer 6:12 And their houses shall be turned unto others, [with their] fields and wives together: for I will stretch out my hand upon the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD.
Jer 8:10 Therefore will I give their wives unto others, [and] their fields to them that shall inherit [them]: for every one from the least even unto the greatest is given to covetousness, from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.Kolumbo Welcome, you are right, it is the Heart that God looks at. The sermon on the Mount Jesus teaches, how the law was magnified and if you lust in your Heart after a woman, you have committed adultery. When you are angry with your Brother you have murder in your Heart. God is Love and We should do all things with Love. Love does not covet, Love is kind, love is patient etc.
Peace and Love Mrs.
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