Difference between theos and elohim

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  • #209106
    RokkaMan
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    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.

    #209287
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,16:34)
    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.


    Hello RM,

    It is good that you are talking about Elohim and Theos.

    I did a couple of threads about Elohim:
    Elohi = goddess (noun, fem, singular)
    m = ending (suffix, masc, plural)

    Elohim = God, Supreme Being (noun, masc & fem, singular*)
    *-other than for the Supreme Being it is plural.

    Often times the Bible uses the word “God” (El) to describe YHWH.

    Thus Theos in Greek is God….and can refer to El or Elohim below and you'll never know which one, which causes tons of confusion.
     
    El (one essence, masc) & Elohim (two essences, masc/fem) = God in Hebrew.

    If you only believe in YHWH Elohim you eliminate Ruach Elohim from Scriptures. YHWH (masc) and Ruach (fem) make up the two essences of Elohim.

    Ruach Elohim Gen 1:2 = God's Spirit
    YHWH Elohim Gen 2:4 = God's YHWH

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth.

    Gen 1:27 God (Elohim) created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; MALE and FEMALE He created them.

    Which part of Elohim is the “female”?  I already know that you put YHWH as the “male” essence.

    Gen 3:8 They heard the sound of the LORD God (YHWH Elohim) walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife “hid” themselves from the “presence” of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

    Can't hide from an omnipresent spirit.  Had to be a physical presence.

    Gen 3:9 Then the LORD God (YHWH Elohim) called to the man, and said to him, “Where are you?”

    This is a major reason why I gave up on trying to rely on Greek.  One word for God in Greek, two words for God in Hebrew.  Greek will only confuse, if you haven't noticed yet with all the “word” debates.  

    The Professor

    #209288
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,08:34)
    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.


    Hi RokkaMan,
                       
                  Hebrew ↔ Greek
    אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm ↔ θεός' Thē'-ōs
      In English BOTH mean “God”!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #209309
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2010,16:39)

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,08:34)
    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.


    Hi RokkaMan,
                       
                  Hebrew ↔ Greek
    אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm ↔ θεός' Thē'-ōs
      In English BOTH mean “God”!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hello Ed,

    Don't forget the Hebrew “El” too = Theos (Greek) = God

    The professor

    #209310
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 16 2010,10:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2010,16:39)

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,08:34)
    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.


    Hi RokkaMan,
                       
                  Hebrew ↔ Greek
    אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm ↔ θεός' Thē'-ōs
      In English BOTH mean “God”!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hello Ed,

    Don't forget the Hebrew “El” too = Theos (Greek) = God

    The professor


    Hi Prof,

    I haven't forgot.

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212634
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2010,18:32)

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 16 2010,10:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2010,16:39)

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,08:34)
    My interpretation of Elohim is the word God in reference to The Almighty YHVH.

    —–

    Theos is the word God in reference to the position of YHVH The Almighty.

    —–

    Theos takes more of the title.

    Elohim to me, is the sacred reverance.
    ——

    So when you see Elohim you know it is YHVH almighty.

    When you see theos, it is referring to the position YHVH holds.

    So far from what i've read…Jesus and/or The Word of God is only attributed the word, Theos.

    Whereas Elohim is strictly reserved for YHVH.

    ——–

    This better illustrates what i've been saying the whole time.

    The Word of God is in the position of YHVH…it is YHVH's reflected image…he is supreme above all things… but ultimately comes FROM YHVH THE ALMIGHTY….

    Elohim = YHVH
    Theos = his authority/position.

    The Word of God is not YHVH, but his reflected perfect image.
    in the seat and position of God (theos).

    The highest we can possibly perceive to be God.

    YHVH – Elohim is unknowable.


    Hi RokkaMan,
                       
                  Hebrew ↔ Greek
    אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm ↔ θεός' Thē'-ōs
      In English BOTH mean “God”!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hello Ed,

    Don't forget the Hebrew “El” too = Theos (Greek) = God

    The professor


    Hi Prof,

    I haven't forgot.

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hello Ed,

    Theos takes on so many meanings besides God.

    Elohim as a personal pronoun would only mean the one and only being “Elohim” who created the heavens and the earth.

    We get messed up by translating don't we?

    It is better to leave it alone. Like YHWH.

    The Professor

    #213495
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2010,08:39)
    Hi RokkaMan,
                       
                  Hebrew ↔ Greek
    אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm ↔ θεός' Thē'-ōs
      In English BOTH mean “God”!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    To All,

    What's the difference between [θεός'] Thē'-ōs and [אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm?
                                                      One is Greek and the other is Hebrew!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #213496
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,10:46)
    Hello Ed,

    Theos takes on so many meanings besides God.

    Elohim as a personal pronoun would only mean the one and only being “Elohim” who created the heavens and the earth.

    We get messed up by translating don't we?

    It is better to leave it alone.  Like YHWH.

    The Professor


    Hi DBF,

    Seems 'you' have forgotten how to spell (יהוה) God's name: YHVH again; huh?

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,11:45)
    Hi Ed,

    Body = YHVH
    Spirit = Spirit

    ONE God = Elohim (noun, masc & fem, singular)

    The Professor

    Babylon means: 'confusion' (Rev.18:2-4);
    Zerubbabel means: “coming out of confusion”(removing). (1Cor.3:11-15)

    Zech.4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me,
    saying, This is “The Word” of the LORD unto Zerubbabel,
    saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the “LORD of Hosts”.
    ONLY by the “HolySpirit”, David, will 'you' come out of confusion!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #213930
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Hello RM,

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ׃

    In beginning created Elohim the heavens and the earth.

    Who created the heavens and the earth? Elohim
    What was His name? Elohim

    The Professor

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