Did you know that Sunday worship is a mark of the beast?

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Hi FF,
This thread may appeal.

March 19, 2007 at 2:42 am#45400

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Ahhh well.. if everyone wants to keep worshipping on a Sunday then go ahead. No one is stopping any of you all at all.

I think it all comes down to… whose will are you willing to do … Gods or Mans. Your choice

Hugs

March 19, 2007 at 2:44 am#45402

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Hi P,
Drifting towards the apparent safety of the OT based SDA belief?
Why do you not worship every day?
True worshippers can -in their body\temple.

March 19, 2007 at 2:48 am#45403

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God wants us to worship any day and any time.

There is never a time when you CANNOT worship God.

The Father seeks people that will worship him in spirit and truth.

There are no restrictions regarding what days you can worship God.

Sunday is OK as it any other day. The more the better.

March 19, 2007 at 2:59 am#45405

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Hi P,
Drifting towards the apparent safety of the OT based SDA belief?
Why do you not worship every day?
True worshippers can -in their body\temple.

Hi Nick… I have had this feeling before I even met the SDA's. In fact someone asked me if I'd be interested in SDA I replied NO WAY!! Of course I knew nothing about them lol. Until I met Doug. But even then I didnt know he was an SDA till later on. I do worship God and Jesus everyday. I think about them all the time. But I choose to respect the Sabbath above all other days. If I was asked to work on a Sabbath I would rather say No. But then that depends on the type of Job you have. I know someone that is an SDA and works on the Sabbath when she has to but she refuses to take the wages she earned that day and work for Love.

Hi T8

That is your belief. Like I said… your choice. I wasnt condemning anyone

Hugs

March 19, 2007 at 3:08 am#45406

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Hi P,
So how many K are you allowed to ride your donkey on Saturday?
Exodus 23:12
Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.

Do you cook food on Saturday?

March 19, 2007 at 3:13 am#45407

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Hi Phoenix.

If it were true that we couldn't worship on Sunday, then it would surely say so in the verses that talk about worship. Otherwise how would we know?

Also it would seem quite silly that God wouldn't want people to worship him on a particular day.

Ephesians 5:19-20
19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

March 19, 2007 at 3:14 am#45408

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Hi Phoenix.

If a mark on the right hand or forehead becomes compulsory for buying and selling saving, I guess that SDA's could accept it because they believe that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast. Would that be a fair assumption?

Revelation 13:16-18
16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

March 19, 2007 at 3:26 am#45412

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,04:08)

Do you cook food on Saturday?

Hi Nick

My donkey only takes me to church on Saturday. But if I didnt go to church it definitely does not go anywhere at all. My kids are the ones suffering because I wont go anywhere on the Saturday. Yes I cook on saturday, mostly microwave. So what? Im not an SDA but Im thinking about joining them.

Hugs
Phoenix

March 19, 2007 at 3:29 am#45414

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Hi P,
The point is the true sabbath while starting as a simple instruction to rest has developed and now relates to lots of laws about permissable behaviours so if you choose to go under the OT law then better check them all out.
But the freedom of the law of love is an easier option.

March 19, 2007 at 3:30 am#45415

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Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2007,04:14)

Hi Phoenix.

Hi T8

Look at those verses you just put there. Read it again.

Honestly, who do you think that beast is?

1. Who moved the sabbath worship in the first place?
2. Who has the power to change any religious law and blaspheme the Lord?
3. Who is it that convenes with the Governments today?

This beast will persecute those that refuse to obey him.

Hugs
Phoenix

March 19, 2007 at 3:34 am#45416

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That aside Phoenix.

If in the future it becomes compulsory for earth's citizens to accept a literal (perhaps invisible) brand, mark, barcode, RFID tag, or something similar in/on your right hand or in/on your forehead for the purpose of buying and selling, would you accept it?

March 19, 2007 at 3:45 am#45418

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I dont think so T8. Id move out to the country and live off the land. Im thankful that I was raised in the country where technology was scarce. I believe in NZ we still have a lot living off the land today.

Edit: Oh I better mention that if I had no choice but to wear a mark, I hope I die instead.

Also I forgot to mention in the previous post that some think that the Sunday worship is the Sabbath. I have heard a few say it is which makes me pity them because they misunderstand and seriously believe that the Sabbath is now Sunday.

Hugs Phoenix

March 19, 2007 at 3:47 am#45419

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Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 19 2007,23:26)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,04:08)

Do you cook food on Saturday?

Hi Nick

Hugs
Phoenix

Where is it written that we must join a denomination?

Where do Christians get this idea from?

March 19, 2007 at 3:48 am#45420

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Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 19 2007,23:45)

Edit: Oh I better mention that if I had no choice but to wear a mark, I hope I die instead.

Hugs Phoenix

Why?

What is sinful about taking a literal mark on the right hand and forehead for buying and selling?

March 19, 2007 at 4:01 am#45424

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Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2007,04:47)

Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 19 2007,23:26)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,04:08)

Do you cook food on Saturday?

Hi Nick

Hugs
Phoenix

Where is it written that we must join a denomination?

Where do Christians get this idea from?

In order for me to be baptized I have accept a denomination. Which is why I asked in the Salvation thread… why are there rules to baptism. I like hanging out with the SDA here because their beliefs are pretty much close to what I like … so far. Only problem is I cant accept the Trinity yet. So, it is unlikely that I will be baptised into SDA but they do worship on Saturday and I am content with that

Hugs
Phoenix

March 19, 2007 at 4:03 am#45426

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Hi P,
You are baptised in the name of Jesus into the body of Christ.
Those who claim they would own you are liars.
You will have one Master.

March 19, 2007 at 4:05 am#45427

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Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2007,04:48)

Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 19 2007,23:45)

Edit: Oh I better mention that if I had no choice but to wear a mark, I hope I die instead.

Hugs Phoenix

Why?

What is sinful about taking a literal mark on the right hand and forehead for buying and selling?

Well if I wanted a literal mark on me I would get a tattoo done or a moko on my chin

LOL too be honest T8 Im not sure if I would consider it a sin. You asked the question and I answered in its context (so I assumed).

Now you give me your answer to your question.

Hugs
Phoenix

March 19, 2007 at 4:08 am#45428

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,05:03)

Hi P,
You are baptised in the name of Jesus into the body of Christ.
Those who claim they would own you are liars.
You will have one Master.

I know Nick.. thats exactly what I thought too. But could you answer my question that I asked in the salvation thread.

Hugs

March 19, 2007 at 4:23 am#45432