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- October 8, 2010 at 3:58 am#219114Jodi LeeParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2010,14:00) Quote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 06 2010,12:47) Ed J, “In a demonic spiritual way, I will explain…
Rev.17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed (spiritual) fornication, …and I saw a woman(Rev.2:22)
sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.Rev.12:9 …that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world…
Ezel.28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God…
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart,
I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Nahum 1:14 [the LORD said] …I will make thy grave; for thou art vile.
Gal.2:20 I am(Satan) crucified with Christ: nevertheless I (Christ) live…
Isaiah 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.If you don't believe my definition of Isaiah 14:19-20,
then please explain what you believe God means?
Hi Jodi,I didn't see you attempt to comment on it other than you don't like the structure.
Please attempt to explain Isaiah 14:19-20 if you don't like my explanation.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,
This is very odd to me,You said, “In a demonic spiritual way, I will explain…”
What does that even mean, and what exactly did YOU explain in that post, I don't see you explaining anything.
October 8, 2010 at 4:02 am#219115Jodi LeeParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2010,14:00) Quote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 06 2010,12:47) Ed J, In that post you quoted of mine, I said “The bible gives plenty examples of man’s fall.” Then I gave scriptures in defense of that statement.
Hi Jodi,Man falling and Satan falling from heaven are two different things.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Scripture speaks of a dragon falling with his messengers, and that dragon is identified as kings, and kings are shown to fall in the OT, just like the dragon. Moreover, Kings are most certainly adversaries or SATAN's, JUST LIKE Peter was SATAN. Both the Kings and Peter had in MIND the things of MEN, instead of having in mind the things of God.So they are not two different things, they are the SAME thing.
October 8, 2010 at 10:07 pm#219197Ed JParticipantQuote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 08 2010,15:02) Scripture speaks of a dragon falling with his messengers, and that dragon is identified as kings, and kings are shown to fall in the OT, just like the dragon.
Hi Jodi,You have not shown: that the dragon (of Rev.12:9) is identified as kings.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 8, 2010 at 10:08 pm#219198Ed JParticipantQuote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 08 2010,14:58) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2010,14:00) Quote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 06 2010,12:47) Ed J, “In a demonic spiritual way, I will explain…
Rev.17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed (spiritual) fornication, …and I saw a woman(Rev.2:22)
sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.Rev.12:9 …that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world…
Ezel.28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God…
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart,
I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Nahum 1:14 [the LORD said] …I will make thy grave; for thou art vile.
Gal.2:20 I am(Satan) crucified with Christ: nevertheless I (Christ) live…
Isaiah 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.If you don't believe my definition of Isaiah 14:19-20,
then please explain what you believe God means?
Hi Jodi,I didn't see you attempt to comment on it other than you don't like the structure.
Please attempt to explain Isaiah 14:19-20 if you don't like my explanation.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,
This is very odd to me,You said, “In a demonic spiritual way, I will explain…”
What does that even mean, and what exactly did YOU explain in that post, I don't see you explaining anything.
Hi Jodi,your question was…
Quote In just what way were they being controlled by Satan anyway could you please explain?
To which I responded: “In a demonic spiritual way, I will explain”…John 6:38 For I(Jesus) came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Rev.13:8 …the Lamb(Jesus) slain from the foundation of the world.Jesus explained to his disciples he was going to Jerusalem to be crucified.
Matt.20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge,
and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.At this point in time he affirms his fate that he is going to go through with it.
John 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
but for this cause(determined before the foundation of the world) came I unto this hour.Likewise when Jesus stated “I have finished the work which thou(Holy Spirit) gavest me to do.
That did NOT mean that the work was already finished; but that He was determined to finish it.
That is why He said (while hanging on the cross) before He died “it is finished” and then died!Jesus death on the cross was to make a separation between GOD and 'Satan' in himself.
Though might seem odd, because It has never been presented this way before; yet all the pieces fit in this manner.Examine Isaiah 14:12-20 How art thou fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer(Satan), son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High(YHVH).
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying,
Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people:
the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.After Jesus said “it is finished” he died.
Then while the body lay dead on the cross, He was thrust through with a spear,
and because He was resurrected, his body was (in essence) cast from the grave.
Jesus is also called “The Branch” in Zech 3:8.
So based on all the evidence I conclude that Jesus came down out
of Heaven to make a separation between GOD and Satan in himself.Knowing full well that “GOD The Father” would raise him back from the dead(Gal.1:1);
once the Satan(Isaiah 14:19-20) had been removed from the Godhead(Col.2:9).God bless
Ed J
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