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So many Christians advocate and trumpet for democracy and freedom, but should we?
There is no longer any Christian countries, but all have turned their back to God to become secular so as to be more respectful and inclusive to those who do not believe in God. Some say that this progressive approach shows love, but are we sacrificing what is right for those who are wrong?
The question stands as: Is it better to give freedoms to man so that man can do his evil will; or restrict that man’s freedoms so that the general population might follow God’s will by law? Also one should ponder, what good is a system that gives power to the world when it is the world that taints Christians? This is what democracy does. When God looks upon our “modern” nations and see us aborting our children, sexualizing the people, promoting LGBT as good, atheist teachings in school, acceptance of drug and alcohol abuse, etc., Will God think these countries are good or evil?
Is democracy good for allowing freedoms for all, or bad because it gives the evil populace the ability to push countries further and further into immorality?
I think it is generally accepted that democracy is not the best form of government, but that it is the safest.
Dictatorships are way more efficient, but man is not worthy to rule with an iron rod in his current state.
Democracy is also very weak. If you imposed it on an Islamic country, and then the citizens freely voted for a dictator, then the democracy is over.
The Kingdom of God is the best government, and that is not a democracy. Some say a theocracy.
no government is needed in God’s kingdom for the rule is “love” godly love that is ;
do you know what godly love is ?
T8,
your absolutely right. From the perspective of the world, it is the fairest and safest by far. No other system has brought such prosperity and humanism than democracy. These things are great… if our goal of prosperity is humanistic and material. (If God did not deem homosexuality as wrong, those who champion it would be heroes) But what about spiritually?
Indeed, democracy gives us the freedom to follow any religion we choose. I mean, if we had a medieval Christian theocracy we could very well not be discussing this right now (burned or decapitation comes to mind). But in our safety, do we not find ourselves more susceptible to become “lukewarm” in our faith? If we look at ISIS its easy to see the evil they do and reject it, its straight forward but what is worse? The evil that is easily detected, or that evil that is far more subtle and insidious that can seem like something good? I am not so sure myself, for that insidious subtle darkness is difficult to detect, you only have to look at the Pharisees to see it at work. Men who were very zealous for godliness, yet were deceived regardless.
I myself would take an absolute ruler who is a God fearing man over a democracy that allows the worlds views to be impressed on us. Was Moses so bad? David? Joshua? I would even argue the Victorians had more moral ethics and understanding than we do today.
I am not for revolution, we know that all leaders are there by God’s will. I only think our national pride is very misplaced, and democracy is a worldly system that we should never praise nor embrace. The kingdom of God will not compromise for the benefit of the masses.
And for terraricca
1John 5:3- In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands
1 Cor 13:4-7 – Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
It is kindness, gentle, meek, love serves and is caring, love is disciplined, respectful, merciful and obedient… And so it is out of love that I might question a system that many of us praise as good, so that some may see that perhaps its not as good as we thought and even, perhaps, dangerous.
hi anastas
sorry but those verse do not talk about godly love but pure brotherly love and the love to your fellow men ,
but the rule that will remain forever is LOVE the true godly love ;this is the one my question was about ;
for this kind of love does not need a government to rule ;
You speak as if there were a difference. Christ is identified as our king and the law of God is just as important in heaven as it is on earth. You say there is no government, but our government is our king and the law our God puts into our hearts. Where do you think brotherly love comes from? God showed us his love in Christ and we imitate that love because it is true. As soon as one rejects love he rejects the law of God, for the law is love and where love is, there too is God. But also where God is, there is obedience because He is the authority/government.
I’m not sure this is the appropriate thread for this, however. Perhaps that is something we could talk about elsewhere?
no government is needed in God’s kingdom for the rule is “love” godly love that is ;
do you know what godly love is ?
The very definition of a kingdom is a government. A kingdom has a king who rules with an iron rod over a sovereign state or area.
Christ will rule under God overall.
I myself would take an absolute ruler who is a God fearing man over a democracy that allows the worlds views to be impressed on us. Was Moses so bad? David? Joshua? I would even argue the Victorians had more moral ethics and understanding than we do today.
Agreed. However, the norm is wickedness in high places. The Middle East was ruled by kings or dictators and the abuses led to the Arab Spring. As far as I know, (which isn’t a lot), Singapore has a successful dictatorship.
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