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  • #40049
    Becauce of Him
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    Our Jw saved because they believe in Jesus the same way you do?

    #40050
    NickHassan
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    Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,02:02)
    Num 12:6 And he went on to say: “Hear my words, please. If there came to be a prophet of YOURS for Jehovah, it would be in a vision I would make myself known to him. In a dream I would speak to him. 7 Not so my servant Moses! He is being entrusted with all my house. 8 Mouth to mouth I speak to him, thus showing him, and not by riddles; and the appearance of Jehovah is what he beholds. Why, then, did YOU not fear to speak against my servant, against Moses?”

    Moses saw God Jehovah and spoke to him Mouth to Mouth!

    How was this see John 1:18
    18 NWT No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.
    So this was Jesus that was Jehovah : Because He is the One that Explains God!!!!! And God the Father can not be seen by us. Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden but this was Jesus to because John say no one at any time has seen God.


    Hi boh,
    Christ is truth and I prefer his words to the impressions of any men. Many in scripture have been sure they have seen God when they saw some messenger or manifestation from God but God is invisible Spirit. We cannot see what is invisible.

    #40051
    NickHassan
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    Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,02:14)
    Our Jw saved because they believe in Jesus the same way you do?


    Hi boh,
    Belief does not save anyone.
    Even demons believe[jas]

    #40052
    NickHassan
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    Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,01:49)
    No problem he became one of us. He was still God in Flesh John 1:14

    i have a question for you did eny one ever see God


    Hi boh,
    No.
    He partook of flesh like ours and God fully manifested in that vessel.

    #40053
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    SO you deni what the inspired word of God says

    #40054
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,02:12)
    I realy wish I could believe like you do so I could be a Jehovah witness again and have my whole family back. But the God Holy Spirit
    that live inside me will not let me denie Him!!!!!!!!!!


    Hi boh,
    Test the spirits for many deceivers have gone out from the body of Christ. We are not JWs but those who have searched scripture and found these things to be so. JWs share this belief but carry a lot of other foolish doctrinal baggage as well and we do not walk with them.

    #40055
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,02:23)
    SO you deni what the inspired word of God says


    Hi boh,
    If you are asked who Christ is would you agree with Peter in Matt 15? Christ approved of his answer.

    #40057
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    Because number 12:6 God is clear with what He is saying!!! You dont believe in God and what He says. you chose to beleive in your own way!!!!!!!
    Num 12:6 And He said, Hear now My words. If there is a prophet among you, I Jehovah will make Myself known to him in a vision, and will speak to him in a dream.
    Num 12:7 Not so, My servant Moses. He is faithful in all My house.
    Num 12:8 I will speak with him mouth to mouth, even clearly, and not in dark speeches. And he shall behold the likeness of Jehovah. Why then were you not afraid to speak against My servant Moses?

    #40058
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    Then expound to us the words of Jesus that say no man has seen God, without calling him a liar.

    #40062
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    Did you finish reading John 1:18
    Joh 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
    The only BEGOTTEN GOD HAS EXPLAINED HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THE WORD OF THE LORD IS THE ONE THAT APPEARED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS GOD ALMIGHTY TO ABRAHAM IN GENESIS

    #40065
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    He explained Him.
    He revealed God to men. But he was not the God he explained or revealed-that was his Dad.

    #40066
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    No Jesus said the Sciptures testify of Him at THAT TIME IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT
    Joh 5:39 “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;

    #40068
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    Show me How the Jew saw Jesus as their CHRIST. Because HE WAS THIER IN THEM.

    #40069
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    And indeed the scriptures do testify about the one who was to come, the Prophet spoken of by Moses as quoted by the woman at the well and as quoted by Peter in Acts 3

    20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

    21Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

    22For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

    23And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

    24Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

    25Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    26Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.”

    #40074
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    Yes Moses wrought about the Rock that followed them. THe manna
    Jud 1:5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.
    It says that the Lord brought them out of egypt.
    1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the Rock was Christ.

    #40075
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    Indeed the Spirit of Christ, the spirit of prophecy was the living waters that guided the Israelites. 1Peter speaks of that.

    #40079
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    Isa 44:8 'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'”
    Their is no other Rock than Jesus and no other God.
    1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the Rock was Christ.

    #40080
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    You do need to declare that there is only One God for us, because He said there are no others and He is a jealous God.

    Jesus is the Lord of those joined with him.

    Have you done what he said we should do first, seek the kingdom, because all the rest would be just vain Philosophy until you did?

    #40081
    Becauce of Him
    Participant

    how is Jesus to you is he a created being. I know he is not God to you. Is he just human. the Son Of man. that would make him man. Or the son of God like the Israelites. That are human.

    #40083
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi boh,
    Jesus is the monogenes Son of God, unique and derived solely in the beginning from the being of God as the image of God. He emptied himself and came partaking of flesh to be just like us, a man. Uncreated, all creation came through the firstborn Son and he was made the source of life for us.

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