The Day of the Lord

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 18 2009,16:07)

acertainchap- you cant say the Holy Spirit is not a person, who said He would send a helper? Jesus! Holy spirit in scripture is referred to as He!!!

A ship is referred to a “she”, is a ship a person?

October 19, 2009 at 12:30 am#151338

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 19 2009,11:07)

acertainchap- you cant say the Holy Spirit is not a person, who said He would send a helper? Jesus! Holy spirit in scripture is referred to as He!!!

chap is not here any more, and neitherin Ken. Both have left some time ago.
Irene

October 19, 2009 at 5:35 pm#152103

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constitutionalist- I think your a little wrong on the holy spirit– John 16;13 (Jesus's words) Howbeit when He the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth; for HE shall not speak of himeslf;but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and HE will show you things to come.(Little different than comparing a he or she as a boat?)

October 20, 2009 at 2:44 pm#152243

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,05:35)

katjo

If “he” doesn't speak of himself, who is telling “him” what to say?

Georg

October 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm#152249

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I was showing Constitutionalist that the Holy spirit is a HE!

October 20, 2009 at 7:15 pm#152282

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,05:35)

That verse is not in the original transcript. It is added.
There are too many other Scriptures that tell you that the Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. Consider this too:” If the Holy Spirit is a person, then he is the Father of Jesus. And that is not so. The Trinity is 3in1, and Scriptures says that:”
Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and in us all.”
By Jesus own words in
John 14:28 ….For my Father is greater then I.”
You really believe that Jesus first said this and then said what John 16:13 says. That contradicts all big time.
When there is more then one Scriptures we should look at it, why is that.
1 Corinth. 8:4 ” And that there is none other God but one.”
Deut. 4:35 ” Unto Thee it was shewed, that mightiest knows that the LORD He is God, there is none beside Him.”

Deut. 6:4 “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God He is one LORD.”

In the old Testament God the Father is always when it says LORD in capital letters.

Where did it originate? The Old Testament Christians until A.D. 155 where killed by the Millions. All the Apostles too, except John. He was exiled to the Island of Pedmus, were He wrote Revelation.
It was a a man Quintus Septimus Florens Tertullian that came up with the trinity. It is said that the trinity was his best achievement. He was born in Carthage Africa to Pagan Parents. He was educated in philosophy, Greek and Latin.
I thought that I already told you all of this?

Also what I find so ironic that Jesus and the Father is mentioned in all of the Letters at the beginning of each one. Yet the Holy Spirit never was.
It was Constantine in A.D. 313 that issued an edit granting all
Christian full freedom to practice their religion. In
A.D. 321 He issued an edit forbidding to work on Sundays, and making it a day of worship.
That is were all the changes started.
In A.D. 324 Constantine established Christianity His official religion of His empire. It will be known as the Roman Universal Church. There is so much more Ancient History, that shows what and when more changed like the Calendar and all Feast like Christmas and Easter. God's Holy Days are listed in Lev.23
All in History Books and National Geography.

What makes me so sad, what
Math. 15:9 says:” In vain do they worship me, teaching the doctrine the commandment of men.” We have children and grandchildren in the Baptist Church/
Peace and Love Irene

November 1, 2009 at 5:01 am#154571

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hi to all
some people thing to mutch of them selfs ,maybe to mutch indoctrination not enought reading in the bible, without pre asumtions,make the aquired bible knowledge theirs and let it sink in teir haerth so they will see.
the trinity is pagan you beleived it ,you are not Christ fallower that simple,you make liars out of GOD and CHRIST.

November 1, 2009 at 7:59 am#154581

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 19 2009,10:35)

Did I make a comment about the Holy Spirit?

November 1, 2009 at 8:18 am#154582

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,09:02)

I was showing Constitutionalist that the Holy spirit is a HE!

So, the ministry of the Holy Spirit is not to exalt Himself.

And I do think that when as a church we start making a big emphasis upon the Holy Spirit, we are placing an emphasis where God hasn't placed an emphasis.

For the emphasis of the Holy Spirit is upon Jesus Christ.

He doesn't testify of Himself, but He glorifies and seeks to glorify Jesus Christ.

“And He will tell us things to come.”

Paul the apostle was directed by the Holy Spirit in his ministry.

And he was shown by the Spirit the things that were going to happen in his life.

I have had a very marvelous experience of having the Holy Spirit lay out for me the things that God had in store and was planning to do in my life.

And the Holy Spirit will testify of things to come and will glorify Jesus Christ.

November 1, 2009 at 2:05 pm#154597

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,05:35)

What is truth? the word of God is truth.
Where does the word come from? from the mind/spirit of God.
It is God's Holy Spirit that will enter into the mind/spirit of a believer and guide him in all things.
That is why the Spirit does not speak of himself, “he” speaks of God because, “he” is of God.

Georg

November 13, 2009 at 2:46 am#156386

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hi georg
this is your quotation and i agree with it but remember each time you twisting the scriptures you are twisting God spirit with yours.

November 13, 2009 at 7:55 am#156486

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terraricca

What scriptures did I twist?

Georg

November 13, 2009 at 8:18 am#156490

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,09:02)

I was showing Constitutionalist that the Holy spirit is a HE!

The Spirit as the Father's influence can manifest itself in many ways.

The holy Spirit was used to baptize 'Elohim's people(Mat 3:11; Acts 1:5; 2:2-3; 10:44-48). It fills them (Acts 2:4; Eph 5:18), is poured out on them (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Joel 2:28, 29), abides in and dwells in them (John 14:17; Rom 8:9,11; 1 Cor 3:16), is upon them (John 1:32-33; Acts 19:6) and they are in it (Rom 8:9, 14, 17; Gal 3:3).

The holy Spirit is used to anoint (Psa 133: 1-2; Luke 4:18; Isa 61:1; 2 Cor 1:21; 1 John 2:20-27).

'Elohim's people drink it (1 Cor 12:13).

It is the down payment they make on their inheritance (2 Cor 1:22; 5:5; Eph 1:14, see margin), that which seals them (Eph 1:13, 4:30).

It is the symbolic ink whereby they are inscribed as living epistles (2 Cor 3:3), and is given to them and they possess it (Luke 11:13).

It is like dew (Psa 113:3).

This does not fit the description of a person.

November 13, 2009 at 11:04 am#156500

Tim Kraft

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Quote (katjo @ Oct. 20 2009,05:35)

Georg

Georg: Excellent post, I could not have said it better! God Bless you, TK

November 13, 2009 at 5:52 pm#156546

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hi georg
i did not say you did ,I just make a remark of the implication of our actions.

December 17, 2009 at 8:01 pm#164900

banana

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2009,04:52)

hi georg
i did not say you did ,I just make a remark of the implication of our actions.

terraricca

I never did ask you what you meant by that?

Georg

December 17, 2009 at 8:07 pm#164904