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- June 26, 2007 at 7:48 pm#56651IM4TruthParticipant
Dan. 12:1 “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.”
Jer. 30:7 “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble: but he shall be saved out of it.”
Mat. 24:21 “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
v.22 “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved; but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.”All three writers are saying, there will be a time of great tribulation for the Jews/Israelites; all three are saying, the people will be saved out of it; all three are saying, there will never be a time like that again. In other words, all three writers are speaking about the same great tribulation period, that would happen to the Jews/Israelites.
Jesus was in fact prophesying of three tribulation periods for his people.The First:
Luke 21:20 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.”This came to pass in 70 AD, when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the temple, and scattered the survivors all over the world.
The Second; and greatest of all three tribulations, the one referred to in the top three scriptures; has also come to pass.
When Adolph Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, he showed a hatred toward the Jews, like no other. He murdered 6 million of them. And how were the Jews saved out of this time of trouble? How were these days cut short? God defeated the Germans. Had Hitler won the war, there would be no flesh-Jew-, alive today. But for the elects sake they were cut short. Are the Jews the elect? I will only give three scriptures as examples;Is. 45:4 “For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect,…”
Is. 65:22 “They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hand.”
Rom. 11:28 “As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.”The Third; and final tribulation is just ahead, Jesus only referred to it by saying what would happen after it;
Mat. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.”
v. 30 “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”The trouble in the middle-east, that we are witnessing every night on our TVs, is exactly what will lead up to this final event. We can read about it better in Zechariah, then in our News Papers.
Zech. 12:2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both, against Judah and against Jerusalem.”
v. 3 “And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”The next verse should really make us think, maybe even scared.
v. 9 “And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.”
Come or are against Jerusalem, it's all the same to God, if you're not for Jerusalem, you're against her.
This next verse describes what will happen in the third and final tribulation for the Jews/Israelites.Zech. 14:2 “For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the City shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the woman ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.”
At the moment, when all seems lost;
v. 3 “Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the days of battle.”
There will be no mistaken who is fighting for God's people, by the way he will destroy them all;
v. 12 “And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.”
Any man made bomb would not leave you standing, would destroy friend and foe.
This my friends will be the end of our days, and the beginning of “The Day of Christ”.Don't let traditional doctrines hinder you from learning new truth;
Mat. 15:9 “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”
You are not only responsible to prove all things, 1 Thes. 5:21, you are also responsible for what you believe.
God bless
February 4, 2008 at 9:26 pm#80728NickHassanParticipantHi Im4,
Yes I do believe some tribulation prophecy belongs to the Jews alone.
Lk21
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
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