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- February 6, 2013 at 1:50 am#331583ProclaimerParticipant
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 05 2013,20:25) You wouldn't say that taking time to challenge people to rescue themselves from rigid and destructive modes of thinking isn't a charitable act?
Actually yes, but I don't see her rescuing you from Atheism and all that goes with it.I think she needs a new name.
February 6, 2013 at 1:52 am#331584ProclaimerParticipantQuote (charity @ Feb. 06 2013,01:44) What if a Robot suddenly developed a brain big enough to discover he was plugged in, on line, connected to google 24/7; shall he bother to praise the flesh that bore him above the the owner of the Factory paying His internet connection.
Na I think he would probably pick on the scrap metal laying around; saying it will never be chosen.
Unless of course there was a robot that desired to know the truth beyond anything else. His creator might show him the truth because it might delight him to show this creation who would appreciate it.February 6, 2013 at 1:55 am#331585ProclaimerParticipantQuote (charity @ Feb. 06 2013,01:53) Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,19:51) Question 2. Can you explain colour to a man who has been blind all his life to the point that he can see colour in his mind?
Yes
No.
possibly.The eye's may be blind..but The mind is not…unless impaired.
whats your answer t8?
I think experience is necessary in order to know.Scientists struggle to know about dimensions that they cannot view. They always talk about them in terms of 3-dimensional language.
The only think I could offer the blind man is to say, what do you see now? He might say nothing. I would say, that nothing is black. But even I could not be sure that he is actually seeing black (no color). And black is not a colour like zero is not a number. Or maybe the absense of a thing is still the thing but of zero value.
Short answer, I think you need to be shown something to understand something. People do not understand God because they don't bother to experience him.
February 6, 2013 at 9:47 am#331666StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2013,11:50) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 05 2013,20:25) You wouldn't say that taking time to challenge people to rescue themselves from rigid and destructive modes of thinking isn't a charitable act?
Actually yes, but I don't see her rescuing you from Atheism and all that goes with it.I think she needs a new name.
Atheism isn't anything to be rescued from. It's just a lack of belief in the existence of Imaginary Friends. Saving someone from not believing in something would be the same as pushing some ideology on that person.A fascist totalitarian ideology, in the case of christianity.
Stuart
February 6, 2013 at 11:13 pm#331758ProclaimerParticipantGod loves all apes Stu.
Even really hairy ones.February 6, 2013 at 11:15 pm#331759ProclaimerParticipantIf you lacked belief in diseases then you would need to be rescued to some degree such as a course in hygiene.
Quote A fascist totalitarian ideology, in the case of christianity. Feed Christians to the lions right?
Bring back Rome.Actually you are in luck. The Bible prophecies that persecution will again rise just as it was in Rome.
And those with faith can expect to lose their lives because they refuse to accept the new world system including the Mark of the Beast
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Not sure if it will be in your life time. But fingers crossed aye!February 7, 2013 at 8:58 am#332026StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2013,09:13) God loves all apes Stu.
Even really hairy ones.
And has that been an uplifting experience for you?Stuart
February 7, 2013 at 9:03 am#332028StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2013,09:15) If you lacked belief in diseases then you would need to be rescued to some degree such as a course in hygiene. Quote A fascist totalitarian ideology, in the case of christianity. Feed Christians to the lions right?
Bring back Rome.Actually you are in luck. The Bible prophecies that persecution will again rise just as it was in Rome.
And those with faith can expect to lose their lives because they refuse to accept the new world system including the Mark of the Beast
.
Not sure if it will be in your life time. But fingers crossed aye!
This childish persecution complex that christians have doesn't impress anyone these days. It's just Saul of Tarsus whining through the centuries.Of course I'm not saying there is no persecution of people for their christian beliefs. But there is no way it is on the rise.
Do you actually know of anyone who does lack belief in diseases? What we actually have is the opposite problem, people believe that immunisation is worse than the risk of catching diseases.
Stuart
February 8, 2013 at 7:29 am#332094ProclaimerParticipantNot at all.
Just imagining what the world would be like if everyone had the same attitude.
Nothing new under the sun.Holiness and faith has always irritated those who don't like God.
That is why they spend much of their life attacking what they say is fairies and unicorns.
Somethings up aye!While I spend very little time arguing about unicorns because it matters not.
February 8, 2013 at 10:35 am#332095StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2013,17:29) Not at all.
Just imagining what the world would be like if everyone had the same attitude.
Nothing new under the sun.Holiness and faith has always irritated those who don't like God.
That is why they spend much of their life attacking what they say is fairies and unicorns.
Somethings up aye!While I spend very little time arguing about unicorns because it matters not.
It's your book of talking snakes and donkeys that mentions the unicorns.Stuart
February 8, 2013 at 7:08 pm#332171Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 01 2013,17:50) Genesis is at least 70% wrong then, isn't it. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Really? How do you figure?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:16 pm#332173Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2013,17:30) Quote (charity @ Feb. 04 2013,09:07) Adam is the first Man?
Had dinner, what ever it was. Taked to God an He fell a sleep; woke up an found a woman their beside Him. then felt her ribs an realised that she Had one more than Him.
And indeed when the 16th Century anatomist Vesalius dissected bodies and discovered that men and women have the same numbers of ribs, it was controversial discovery because it had been assumed somehow that Genesis implied men would have a different number of ribs compared with women. Some people even believe it today.Just as well we live in an age where religious idiots no longer use poor interpretations of Genesis to question science and the facts it discovers…
…oh, wait…
Stuart
Hi Stuart,How would extracting a rib change “our” genetics?
Eve's genetics came from the DNA of Adam.
And ours come from the DNA of both.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 9, 2013 at 6:39 am#332231charityParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,05:16) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2013,17:30) Quote (charity @ Feb. 04 2013,09:07) Adam is the first Man?
Had dinner, what ever it was. Taked to God an He fell a sleep; woke up an found a woman their beside Him. then felt her ribs an realised that she Had one more than Him.
And indeed when the 16th Century anatomist Vesalius dissected bodies and discovered that men and women have the same numbers of ribs, it was controversial discovery because it had been assumed somehow that Genesis implied men would have a different number of ribs compared with women. Some people even believe it today.Just as well we live in an age where religious idiots no longer use poor interpretations of Genesis to question science and the facts it discovers…
…oh, wait…
Stuart
Hi Stuart,How would extracting a rib change “our” genetics?
Eve's genetics came from the DNA of Adam.
And ours come from the DNA of both.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Adams Claims would have been cleared up straight away without a doubt if DNA had of existed 6000 years ago.February 9, 2013 at 6:42 am#332232charityParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,05:08) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 01 2013,17:50) Genesis is at least 70% wrong then, isn't it. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Really? How do you figure?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
when your doing what you Like, you don't Like to waste your time.February 9, 2013 at 7:16 am#332237charityParticipantGöbekli Tepe (10000 years old)
Garden of Eden (6000 years young)February 10, 2013 at 8:58 am#332347ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2013,23:35) It's your book of talking snakes and donkeys that mentions the unicorns. Stuart
So you don't believe in unicorns, is that it?February 10, 2013 at 10:17 am#332352StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,18:58) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2013,23:35) It's your book of talking snakes and donkeys that mentions the unicorns. Stuart
So you don't believe in unicorns, is that it?
It's not interesting what I think about unicorns, t8. The interest value lies in whether christians agree with scripture that there are facts to be known about unicorns. Numbers 23:22 and Job 39:11 describe their great strength; they skip like calves according to Psalm 29:6; and they contain blood if you believe Isaiah 34:7.Most bizarrely, the writer of Deuteronomy 33:17 thinks unicorns have more than one horn.
Stuart
February 10, 2013 at 10:34 am#332355ProclaimerParticipantWell if a unicorn is a rhinoceros, then there are unicornis and bicornis varieties.
February 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm#332365TimothyVIParticipantIt is interesting that after people stopped believing in unicorns they merely changed the word to a young wild ox in more recent bibles.
Nevertheless, if T8 is correct, it would still have been entertaining to see a young rhinoceros skipping around.
Tim
February 11, 2013 at 1:15 am#332558ProclaimerParticipantBe entertained then.
Tim. Unicorns were known as Rhinos 200 or so years ago.
Within the last 200 years, it changed into a mystical white horse.That is not the Bible's fault Tim.
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