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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2013,05:38) Hi Colter, Why does the preceding citation of the
UB have two sets of reference numbers
(1007.1-1008.2) and (92:4.1-92:4.9 5)?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I don't know what the first set of numbers denote, It's part of the internet formatting of Urantia Foundations web site, but does not appear in the original book.The second set of numbers is in reference to each paper number. The UB is composed of 196 “papers” , 2000+ pages.
The first 3/4 of the book came over a period of 20 years. The “Jesus papers” came in one night, hand written in the “sleeping subjects” handwriting.
Colter
Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,09:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Colter.You have been robbed,and dont know it.
Your inheritace have been taken away.The book of urantia is just one of many books that was written by the servants of satan.
He has filled all the libraries in the world,with his teachings.We are not against you,but the spirit that you have embraced.
Go back to the scriptures,the Lord died for that.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,09:32) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,09:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Colter.You have been robbed,and dont know it.
Your inheritace have been taken away.The book of urantia is just one of many books that was written by the servants of satan.
He has filled all the libraries in the world,with his teachings.We are not against you,but the spirit that you have embraced.
Go back to the scriptures,the Lord died for that.wakeup.
I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,10:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,09:32) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,09:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Colter.You have been robbed,and dont know it.
Your inheritace have been taken away.The book of urantia is just one of many books that was written by the servants of satan.
He has filled all the libraries in the world,with his teachings.We are not against you,but the spirit that you have embraced.
Go back to the scriptures,the Lord died for that.wakeup.
I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Coulter,What's inside you is manifesting. It doesn't sound nice. On the other threads also. You are antichrist.
Not a religion I would like to be a part of.Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,12:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Pharisees opposed words such as I spoke. For they are the words of Jesus, “I am the way the truth and the life”.You oppose Jesus words just as the Pharisees. So why turn the table around for no good reason?
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,13:43) I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with? The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Colter, if God has spoken that the soul that sins will die, then to save a soul would require death.You are fighting against the laws of reality.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,11:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
If you bother to read it Colter, you will know what I am saying is true. Remove yourself from the picture so as to not be biased and imagine my post being aimed at Mormons or Moonies. It is true what I say right. Now apply the same common sense to what you think is reality.Colter,
Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.
Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods. In claiming they did it makes you sound foolish.
Jesus chose to give his life for the advance of righteousness. That is the definition of self sacrifice.
Do you understand the concept of sacrificing yourself to secure the freedom of your siblings?
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,10:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,09:32) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,09:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Colter.You have been robbed,and dont know it.
Your inheritace have been taken away.The book of urantia is just one of many books that was written by the servants of satan.
He has filled all the libraries in the world,with his teachings.We are not against you,but the spirit that you have embraced.
Go back to the scriptures,the Lord died for that.wakeup.
I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Colter.Everytime you guys meet,what sort of drinks are served?
Do you also go to the bohemian grove to worship?wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,21:06) Colter, Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.
Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods. In claiming they did it makes you sound foolish.
Jesus chose to give his life for the advance of righteousness. That is the definition of self sacrifice.
Do you understand the concept of sacrificing yourself to secure the freedom of your siblings?
Hi Kerwin,Good post!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,21:06) Colter, Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.
Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods. In claiming they did it makes you sound foolish.
Jesus chose to give his life for the advance of righteousness. That is the definition of self sacrifice.
Do you understand the concept of sacrificing yourself to secure the freedom of your siblings?
Kerwin,I did not not say that the Jewish hierarchy sacrificed Jesus to their God. I did not say that the Roman government sacrificed Jesus to their God.
Jesus never taught human sacrifice, nor was human sacrifice a part of Judaism, nor was the sacrifice of a miraculous person part of the original gospel…….HOWEVER, the sacrifice of a divine God/man WAS a common theme across many pre-Christian mythology's in Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt, Mesopotamia, basically all around the Israel.
The Christian religion evolved among the Pagan world as there were common themes within the story of Jesus. The Mystery religion didn't disappear, it merged with evolving Christianity. Many non-Jesusonian concepts
The gospel was rejected by the Jews of Jesus' day and the Paganized version of Jesus' gospel is still rejected by the Jews.
The reason Jesus gave for his willingness to lay down his life and personally take it up again was to prove his authority to teach his gospel. The cross had nothing to do with the atoning sacrifice of the Pagan mythologies.
God was already loving and forgiving.
God has always been forgiving.
God never concocted the crass injustice of requiring the death of his innocent Son that he might be able to forgive his erring children.
Colter
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,19:53) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,13:43) I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with? The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Colter, if God has spoken that the soul that sins will die, then to save a soul would require death.You are fighting against the laws of reality.
The soul that embraces sin, is unrepentant, that rejects forgiveness does not awake from the sleep of death.The soul that turns to God in faith lives.
The concept of “original sin” comes from the fact that Adam and Eve lost their own immortality because of their own person rejection of the plan of redemption for our previously fallen world.
Adam & Eve lost the use of the “tree of life”, they had duel circulatory systems. They would then share in mans natural fate, death and the path of ascension.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,23:50) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,21:06) Colter, Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.
Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods. In claiming they did it makes you sound foolish.
Jesus chose to give his life for the advance of righteousness. That is the definition of self sacrifice.
Do you understand the concept of sacrificing yourself to secure the freedom of your siblings?
Kerwin,I did not not say that the Jewish hierarchy sacrificed Jesus to their God. I did not say that the Roman government sacrificed Jesus to their God.
Jesus never taught human sacrifice, nor was human sacrifice a part of Judaism, nor was the sacrifice of a miraculous person part of the original gospel…….HOWEVER, the sacrifice of a divine God/man WAS a common theme across many pre-Christian mythology's in Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt, Mesopotamia, basically all around the Israel.
The Christian religion evolved among the Pagan world as there were common themes within the story of Jesus. The Mystery religion didn't disappear, it merged with evolving Christianity. Many non-Jesusonian concepts
The gospel was rejected by the Jews of Jesus' day and the Paganized version of Jesus' gospel is still rejected by the Jews.
The reason Jesus gave for his willingness to lay down his life and personally take it up again was to prove his authority to teach his gospel. The cross had nothing to do with the atoning sacrifice of the Pagan mythologies.
God was already loving and forgiving.
God has always been forgiving.
God never concocted the crass injustice of requiring the death of his innocent Son that he might be able to forgive his erring children.
Colter
Colter,
The eastern church has a different view than the west.
Did you know that?Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,22:31) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,23:50) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,21:06) Colter, Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.
Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods. In claiming they did it makes you sound foolish.
Jesus chose to give his life for the advance of righteousness. That is the definition of self sacrifice.
Do you understand the concept of sacrificing yourself to secure the freedom of your siblings?
Kerwin,I did not not say that the Jewish hierarchy sacrificed Jesus to their God. I did not say that the Roman government sacrificed Jesus to their God.
Jesus never taught human sacrifice, nor was human sacrifice a part of Judaism, nor was the sacrifice of a miraculous person part of the original gospel…….HOWEVER, the sacrifice of a divine God/man WAS a common theme across many pre-Christian mythology's in Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt, Mesopotamia, basically all around the Israel.
The Christian religion evolved among the Pagan world as there were common themes within the story of Jesus. The Mystery religion didn't disappear, it merged with evolving Christianity. Many non-Jesusonian concepts
The gospel was rejected by the Jews of Jesus' day and the Paganized version of Jesus' gospel is still rejected by the Jews.
The reason Jesus gave for his willingness to lay down his life and personally take it up again was to prove his authority to teach his gospel. The cross had nothing to do with the atoning sacrifice of the Pagan mythologies.
God was already loving and forgiving.
God has always been forgiving.
God never concocted the crass injustice of requiring the death of his innocent Son that he might be able to forgive his erring children.
Colter
Colter,
The eastern church has a different view than the west.
Did you know that?
I'm aware that there are literally thousands of competing doctrines among many different sects of Christianity each one focusing on some aspect of the diverse teachings of Jesus.Are you referring to views on substitutionary atonement?
Colter
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,21:23) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,10:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,09:32) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,09:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Colter.You have been robbed,and dont know it.
Your inheritace have been taken away.The book of urantia is just one of many books that was written by the servants of satan.
He has filled all the libraries in the world,with his teachings.We are not against you,but the spirit that you have embraced.
Go back to the scriptures,the Lord died for that.wakeup.
I see you still have faith in Satan, is that the same halloween doctrine that your preacher molested you with?The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived.
Colter
Colter.Everytime you guys meet,what sort of drinks are served?
Do you also go to the bohemian grove to worship?wakeup.
Most UBer's are independent readers, we have no structure outside of seeking to do Gods will. We are simply joined in faith in the original ideal of the rule of God in the heart of the believer, Jesus referred to it as “the kingdom of heaven”. After Peter and Paul's new gospel failed to remain true to Jesus' original concept of the kingdom of heaven, the church became a replacement.There are conferences and such where many topics are discussed but no controlling, institutional nonsense.
I don't drink or do drugs.
Colter
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,19:51) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,12:05) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,08:16) Colter, you are as brainwashed as any other cult member.
They all claim to be right and follow the right way.
They also all use some other text outside of the scriptures.
Do you not see that you have chosen one cult of many thousands?
They all think they are right, and even in the face of knowing that all the other cults and cult members are just like themselves all believing they have the truth.
Remember the Heavens Gate cult? They were so convinced that they even killed themselves to catch the salvation spaceship that accompanied a comet.
They are like you. Convinced they were right.These cults are traps. They are designed to get you away from, scripture.
Look from where you have fallen and get up.On the outset, it is not hard for any reasonable mind to see what I am saying to you.
And the excuse that Jesus was a cult, so our cult is fine is no excuse at all. Jesus is the truth and something had to be the truth. If you don't believe him, then fine, live with the consequence. But if you do, then do not believe another who comes in his own name.
There is one name to God the Father. Truth is not contradictory.
Shallow reply, the typical Pharisee type thinking, and no answer to the question that I asked you.Colter
Pharisees opposed words such as I spoke. For they are the words of Jesus, “I am the way the truth and the life”.You oppose Jesus words just as the Pharisees. So why turn the table around for no good reason?
You are delusional, hearing things that I did not say. See a doctor.And you still never answered my question.
Colter
Colter,
Quote Jesus never taught human sacrifice, nor was human sacrifice a part of Judaism, nor was the sacrifice of a miraculous person part of the original gospel…….HOWEVER, the sacrifice of a divine God/man WAS a common theme across many pre-Christian mythology's in Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt, Mesopotamia, basically all around the Israel. You are calling it out of its name. Self sacrifice is indeed part of Judaism. Samson killed himself in order to defeat God's enemies. Don't you believe Jesus was willing to do the same?
Jesus chose to die in order to convict the world of sin and seal the new covenant.
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