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Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 16 2009,06:47) Irene,
I believed in the trinity for nearly 25 years, and probably still would if not for the grace shown to me when I was given a revelation on Jesus as the begotten Son. For that 25 years I was born again although now I realize that I had been deceived by tradition. I do not see those within the assembly as evil, only deluded, I could rebuke them and leave them to “sink or swim” but the assembly is were we are to correct, encourage, and equip and I believe that sound teaching combined with the love as shown by Jesus will win some over.Also a point we differ on is I believe that the verse “come out of her” is still in the future and will go forth just prior to a literal destruction of the religious, yet ungodly.
My opinion, Wm
Sorry but I do not agree with you. I don't think going to a Church will save you or not. The believe in Christ and grace is what is a gift of God. So nobody should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-10
Believing in a trinity is a false doctrine of men and not of God.Math. 15:4 “But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for the doctrine the commandments of men.”
The trinity is a doctrine is not of God, but of men.The first Christians did not keep the doctrine of the trinity.
It was Quintus Septimus Florens Tertullian who gave us the trinity.
It is said that the trinity is his best achievement he made to Christianity.Peace and Love Irene
hi all
first i have to say that the scriptures shows that Christ the apostels have said to follow the truth and not to assossiet whit the sinners
will of God.
1Pe 4:3 For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
1Pe 4:4 They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you.1Pe 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect
1Pe 1:10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care,
1Pe 1:11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
1Pe 1:12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you,I am convised that people with there heart set on Gods truth in the bible and give more credit to the scriptures than the teachings of man
will see the light of truth,it is true that man worse enemy is himself ,always looking for a free ride.
Irene! I just read your post on page 5 were you are denying the Holy spirit. I quotted you so many scriptures before were the Holy Spirit is called HE!
irene,Not literely the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit as a person! Just because the word Trinity is not in the bible does not mean they are not one. If people would look at the Old Testament more and lead up to the New Testament you would see it!
Does come out of her say “IF YOU BELIEVE IN A TRINITY”? It could be speaking to ones who dont believe! Thats crazy!
before jesus took on human form, we are told that he eternally coexisted with his Father, and as God he had all authority. But Philippians 2:6-11 tells us that even though Jesus had existed in the form of God, he “stripped himself” of God’s powers to be born a human being. Yet the same passage tells us that after his resurrection Jesus was restored to his former glory, and someday “every knee will bow to him as Lord.”
Prior to Jesus taking on human form, we are told that he eternally coexisted with his Father, and as God he had all authority. But Philippians 2:6-11 tells us that even though Jesus had existed in the form of God, he “stripped himself” of God’s powers to be born a human being. Yet the same passage tells us that after his resurrection Jesus was restored to his former glory, and someday “every knee will bow to him as Lord.”hi JnF
man worst enemy is himself,it means ;just think 98% of your problems are self created ither by you behavor or lack of it,it a lazy attitude to say it is the others fault not mine,
Christ came and trough is diciples we recieved the good news who men reacte to it ,why they rejected or why they accepted,was it because of themself the way there hearts were ?or to some who accepted there hearts were responding to wath they eer ?
satan has to me nothing to do with it ,he planted is seed long ago,by open the door to rebellion again God.
from then on the wicket ones dont need help in ther wicketness,this is why God pays attention by having an eye open on is ways,and he also watcheous the pad of the rightieous.Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 16 2009,06:47) Irene,
I believed in the trinity for nearly 25 years, and probably still would if not for the grace shown to me when I was given a revelation on Jesus as the begotten Son. For that 25 years I was born again although now I realize that I had been deceived by tradition. I do not see those within the assembly as evil, only deluded, I could rebuke them and leave them to “sink or swim” but the assembly is were we are to correct, encourage, and equip and I believe that sound teaching combined with the love as shown by Jesus will win some over.Also a point we differ on is I believe that the verse “come out of her” is still in the future and will go forth just prior to a literal destruction of the religious, yet ungodly.
My opinion, Wm
William,endearing how he works, for many years i read scriptures at home, never attending church. just reading and praying. never even heard of the trinity, then one day someone spoke of the trinity, at first I thought them to be mad, then I had come to learn some find it to be truth.
we are taught in different ways.
much love to you and yours william.
To all: We can build buildings and call them chruches!
We can tell people they need to go to church!
We can go to musical events and pot luck dinners at the building we call the church!
But there is only one body of Christ. That is the true Church of God. Every individual is a church of God. We are the body of Christ.
You cannot go to church in truth. You can meet other Churches at a building but in truth you are the Church. Its a minor terminology point but it detracts new persons of God from knowing they are the Church. IMO, TKhi tk
you know i use to belong to the carpenters union,we all ad the same ticket ,but not the same ability,nor the same will to perfect oneself,so if you want your house finish inside wish carpenter would you pick.
i am sure you would pick a good one who take pride in wath he does.
God his not different read the scriptures and you quickly find out that he looks for the ones who are totaly commited to him,gess why?hi FOJ
well commit your self to the Father and Christ,how you ask ?read the scriptures and if you read something you do and should not do ,stop doing it ,if you read you should do something that you did not do, well start doing it,but whatever you do ,do it because you want to please God not you,dont look for man praise ,God see all the things you do and why you do itQuote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 16 2009,02:48) terraricca: That was a very good post. I think I totally agree with that answer! Bless you, TK
Me too!
Also did somebody mention a potluck? Yummy!
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