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2Besee.
I know;but there will be a time coming that no one can go shopping for food without the mark of the beast.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 10 2014,07:32) Without an Internet bank account?
2Besee.Without the mark,you can not have a bank account.
You can not have a job.
You can not pay your rent or home loan.
You can not drive a car with no car licence.
It will be tough going for christians.This will be the test; How much we truly love our God.
Daniel's friends have shown how much they love their God
By refusing to worship the image set up by the king.
God also has saved their lives.wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2014,07:32) So we can live like hermits in the dessert yes?
Best to al ways be prepared mentally.
2Besee.We can only find protection in God.
He will lead,and give us a little help.
No one will be tempted above his ability.wakeup.
Wakeup,
Whatever may happen in end times, the spirit of God should be with us and our focus would not be on survival, fear, it should not be fear based, but rather survival to help others. We need to be at the state of mind where we do not need anything that we own material wise. Our children would not be taken off us if we care for them and love them. Well, in my country I am sure they would not unless for child abuse, violence, neglect. Lack of food or housing they would not. Maybe I'm wrong about future, but, please tell me more then.
If we could not leave our material possessions, and money, happily, then we need help with that with God. A Christian should be able to leave his home, money, bank accounts, and be still happy with God in a tent in the middle of nowhere.
Not happy though with suffering of people around them.
Do you see what I mean?
What I'm trying to say is that, fretting over what may come, and over some mark, or not being able to buy or sell without mark, or worrying about this and that, is not necessary, and people can create their own hype, and think they are warning others…but warning who? Other Christians, who should by now be at that state where they don't need to buy and sell, if they are seeking God's kingdom.
So the warning should be more so in preparation spiritually, I guess, if not too late already.2Besee.
Worrying is the last thing we do,because of our faith is strong.
But we need to make aware our bros and sist.
We need to blow the trumpet and warn them what is coming,so they can expect it. And not caught by surprised.
Mind you; the false prophet greatest enemy are the christians.We are to them the terrorists.wakeup.
Quote But we need to make aware our bros and sist.
We need to blow the trumpet and warn them what is coming,so they can expect it.But why? If they are luke warm they are spat out of Jesus' mouth. He comes at a time is least expected by the sleepers who are content with riches and life itself. Preaching is of no avail.
Ezekiel 33:3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, ***he blow the trumpet, and warn the people***;
Ezekiel 33:4 Then whosoever **heareth** the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
Ezekiel 33:5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, ***and took not warning***; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, ***and blow not the trumpet***, ***and the people be not warned***; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
wakeup.
But Wakeup,
Who are you warning?I mean apart from hnet.
You don't have to give me a list of names or anything, just wondering if this is it?
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 14 2014,08:22) But Wakeup,
Who are you warning?I mean apart from hnet.
You don't have to give me a list of names or anything, just wondering if this is it?
2Besee.Not only Me; but we all with knowledge should warn our friends and neibours,brothers and sisters.
Warn them about the dangers coming.The deceiver will come in lambs clothing and deceive the *VERY ELECT*,if possible.Warn them;so they wont be caught by surprise.Caught in their sleep.
Warn the sleepers that say: Evil will not come to us,
for God loves us; for we are saved. none are saved untill the
he has past the great test. By rejecting to worship the false prophet and his mark. Ready to gave our lives for the Word of God. If we dont; we were just giving lip service to God and His Son.No; God only loves them that are awake by seeking the scriptures in truth,this is that oil that keeps the lamp burning.
I noticed that the prophesies has been put on the back burner;very sad to say.
The prophesies tell us what is coming,and what to do when it is come. Jesus is the testimony of the spirit of prophesies.This is very strange; prophesies given by men they are very interested in.?? Why?
If anyone is seeking *in truth*;God's HS will lead.
1.Enoch was taken up before the flood,for He is righteous in God's eyes.
2.Noah was put in the ark before the flood,because He is righteous before God.
3.Lot was taken out of sodom before the fire,because of
God's promise to Abraham.Abraham was not in sodom.So we should not be in Babylon;but out of babylon.(spiritually).
Because Babylon will be destroyed,by fire.Stay sober and be awake,for the thief is coming to steal our inheritance. And warn your brothers and sisters of the danger
coming.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 03 2014,09:28) Boditharta. There is a reason why God forbad the jews from eating swine flesh.
It is because of health. swine flesh contains worms.
And the gentiles sacrifice swine to their gods.
But that has changed in the new testament.
All creaters are created by God and good for food if taken with thanks giving.1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1 Timothy 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
To save one self by breaking the commandments of God
is a no no.
To save one self and family by taking the mark of the beast
means death. You can not worship two masters.He who saves his life shall loose it;and he who looses his life for my sake shall find life.
He who loves father,mother,wife, brothers and sisters more than me is not worthy of me.
wakeup.
You went against your own argument, if swine has worms and gentiles sacrificed swine to their gods and you say this is why it was forbidden then how do you come to the conclusion that it is indeed okay to eat swine as long as it is received with thanksgiving?If something can be sanctified through prayer then anything can be sanctified through prayer by necessity
Boditharta.
Swine flesh was sacrificed to idols.
Therefore the jews can not and should not sacrifice swine flesh. As you know,they always sacrifice bulls or birds or sheep.They are also not to eat swine flesh,eat blood,and eat fat.
These are all laws given to them jews;carnal laws.
The fat is the tastiest part,and they are to leave that for God.
But that was the old covenant.We are now in the new covenant.
There are no more animal sacrifices.
Jesus is the one pure sacrifice,for all.
End of all meat sacrifices. Finish.Our sacrifice now is of the spirit.
Dont touch the unclean thing,follow Jesus commandments.
Love your neigbour as your self.
Seek and ye shall find.
seek not, and you will never find.Find What? Find the truth that is in God.The nature of God.
So your faith will be based on knowledge; not just blind faith,
By teachings of men.Forbidding to eat meats,but can touch the unclean thing,such as lying, cheating,and idolatry.
And blaspheming the name of God and His Son.wakeup.
Jer.35:1-19
The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD in the days of Jehoi'akim the son of Josi'ah, king of Judah:
“Go to the house of the Re'chabites,
and speak with them,
and bring them to the house of the LORD, into one of the chambers;
then offer them wine to drink.”
So I took Ja-azani'ah the son of Jeremiah,
son of Habazzini'ah,
and his brothers,
and all his sons,
and the whole house of the Re'chabites.
I brought them to the house of the LORD into the chamber of the sons of Hanan the son of Igdali'ah,
the man of God,
which was near the chamber of the princes,
above the chamber of Ma-asei'ah the son of Shallum,
keeper of the threshold.
Then I set before the Re'chabites pitchers full of wine,
and cups;
and I said to them,
“Drink wine.”
But they answered,
“We will drink no wine,
for Jon'adab the son of Rechab,
our father,
commanded us,
`You shall not drink wine, neither you nor your sons for ever;
you shall not build a house;
you shall not sow seed;
you shall not plant or have a vineyard;
but you shall live in tents all your days,
that you may live many days in the land where you sojourn.'
We have obeyed the voice of Jon'adab the son of Rechab,
our father,
in all that he commanded us,
to drink no wine all our days,
ourselves,
our wives,
our sons,
or our daughters,
and not to build houses to dwell in.
We have no vineyard or field or seed;
but we have lived in tents,
and have obeyed and done all that Jon'adab our father commanded us.
But when Nebuchadrez'zar king of Babylon came up against the land,
we said,
`Come, and let us go to Jerusalem for fear of the army of the Chalde'ans and the army of the Syrians.'
So we are living in Jerusalem.”Then the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah:
“Thus says the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel:
Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
Will you not receive instruction and listen to my words?
says the LORD.
The command which Jon'adab the son of Rechab gave to his sons,
to drink no wine,
has been kept;
and they drink none to this day,
for they have obeyed their father's command.
I have spoken to you persistently,
but you have not listened to me.
I have sent to you all my servants the prophets,
sending them persistently,
saying,
`Turn now every one of you from his evil way,
and amend your doings,
and do not go after other gods to serve them,
and then you shall dwell in the land which I gave to you and your fathers.'
But you did not incline your ear or listen to me.
The sons of Jon'adab the son of Rechab have kept the command which their father gave them,
but this people has not obeyed me.
Therefore,
thus says the LORD,
the God of hosts,
the God of Israel:
Behold,
I am bringing on Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them;
because I have spoken to them and they have not listened,
I have called to them and they have not answered.”But to the house of the Re'chabites Jeremiah said,
“Thus says the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel:
Because you have obeyed the command of Jon'adab your father,
and kept all his precepts,
and done all that he commanded you,therefore thus says the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel:
Jon'adab the son of Rechab shall never lack a man to stand before me.”WHO is having dreams and visions of Jesus today? It is Muslims (Google it…”Dreams and visions of Jesus”.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,18:22) 2Besee. Not only Me; but we all with knowledge should warn our friends and neibours,brothers and sisters.
Warn them about the dangers coming.The deceiver will come in lambs clothing and deceive the *VERY ELECT*,if possible.I believe the deceiver is already here, and in many people. The Man of Sin will live in the temple of God, which is the Body!
Quote No; God only loves them that are awake by seeking the scriptures in truth,this is that oil that keeps the lamp burning. You forgot to mention the Holy Spirit.
Quote I noticed that the prophesies has been put on the back burner;very sad to say. Not everywhere, only on some forums and churches!
Quote This is very strange; prophesies given by men they are very interested in.?? Why? Huh
Are you not a man doing prophecy?Quote 1.Enoch was taken up before the flood,for He is righteous in God's eyes. 2.Noah was put in the ark before the flood,because He is righteous before God.
3.Lot was taken out of sodom before the fire,because of
God's promise to Abraham.Abraham was not in sodom.So we should not be in Babylon;but out of babylon.(spiritually).
Because Babylon will be destroyed,by fire.We can't be LITERALLY out of the World, else how do we help people, Wakeup?
'Out of it's Ways'.
(maybe that's what you meaning).
Quote Stay sober and be awake,for the thief is coming to steal our inheritance. And warn your brothers and sisters of the danger coming. Stay sober, don't drink alcohol, not even caffeine, sugar, etc, all wreak havoc with our health and mind, and sleep (we need sleep to stay awake in the day!)
And most importantly, love Jesus, love God, pray to God, without ceasing (I think that means….Don't lose sight….don't get to the stage where you no longer desire to pray, or feel prayer, or feel God's presence, but continually, be close to God, and if we don't feel that, then return to love him – traps can make us lose our love).
And.. don't desire the things of the world.
2Besee
Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the*** spirit of slumber***, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us** watch and be sober**.
Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, **Watch**.
Mark 14:38 **Watch** ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Besee; I'm not claiming to be a prophet.
Just quoting what are written in prophesies.wakeup.
Wakeup, I don't like getting into back and forth discussion over scriptures online anymore. But here is a short blog I did on the Second Advent. If we have it right, and we discern what to watch for (including being deceived in any way especially in regards to our faith) then with God's help and guidance, we will be watching.
The Second Advent
Several years ago I was going to an Adventist Church as a visitor.
I'm not an Adventist, just a visitor.
I read one of their books, and learned through an Adventist friend that they believed there would be a false return of Jesus Christ, a deceiver.
If I remember rightly: This false Jesus would mimic almost exactly what many Christians are waiting for, and “the world” would be deceived.This troubled me.
I prayed earnestly, and asked how we would know – How would we know Lord that it is you, or, an impostor?Later that day, I had a vision.
I saw the world around me burnt, gone, nothing existed.
But I was still standing, alive.
This is how you would know.
You would just know.
There would be no doubt.
It would be the end of the world.What happened after, I was not shown (Though I see now in scripture it would be the “rapture”)
I wrote as guided after, but I don't feel to say anything more in this blog.
Later, I found scriptures in the Bible to match..
2nd Peter chapter 3, exactly. They were waiting for a new heaven and a new earth. Jesus' return is “The day of the Lord” – the destruction of the world by fire.
Malachi 4: “For, behold, the day comes, it burns as a furnace; and all the proud, and all who work wickedness, will be stubble; and the day that comes will burn them up,” says Yahweh of Armies, “that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But to you who fear my name shall the sun of righteousness arise with healing in its wings. You will go out, and leap like calves of the stall. You shall tread down the wicked; for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I make,” says Yahweh of Armies.”
The three men in Daniel Chapter 3 – Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, thrown into a pit of fire, given divine protection from the flames. They did not burn at all.
So, I knew this. I believe this.
Nobody can take away what God has shown me.
I thank God for showing me.Amillenialism (e.g. Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran belief) is safe. Also, Adventist belief is safe.
PREMILLENIALISM which seems to be so rampant amongst Christianity today, is NOT safe to believe. You may be deceived into believing the false Messiah is Jesus.“Watch that you are not deceived!”
Recently I went through some chapters in the Bible – my words are in small print.
It is clear that when Jesus comes there will be the destruction of the world (the wicked), and only the chosen ones will remain alive, having received 'divine protection' from the fire – then, they will be “raptured”.Matthew 13.24
“The Kingdom of Heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people slept, his enemy came and sowed darnel weeds also among the wheat, and went away.
But when the blade sprang up and produced fruit, then the darnel weeds appeared also.
The servants of the householder came and said to him, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where did these darnel weeds come from?’
“He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’
The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and gather them up?’
“But he said, ‘No, lest perhaps while you gather up the darnel weeds, you root up the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest time I will tell the reapers,
“First, gather up the darnel weeds, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.”Then Jesus sent the multitudes away, and went into the house. His disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the darnel weeds of the field.”
He answered them, “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one.
The enemy who sowed them is the devil.
The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels.
As therefore the darnel weeds are gathered up and burned with fire; so will it be at the end of this age.
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and those who do iniquity, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!Matthew 24:23
“Then if any man tells you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There,’ don’t believe it.
For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
“Behold, I have told you beforehand!
If therefore they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ don’t go out; ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ don’t believe it.
For as the lightning flashes from the east, and is seen even to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
For wherever the carcass is, there is where the vultures gather together.
(Revelation 19:17 the calling to the birds to gather means there is death. In Luke, the Disciples asked WHERE they will be TAKEN, and Jesus says the same: “wherever the carcass is, there is where the vultures will be gathered, so this is not speaking of the taken being raptured, but the taken being taken away by the fire, dead, God's chosen remaining alive.)(Jesus now seems to backtrack to before that day)But immediately after the oppression of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky.
Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.(So bright it will be)He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.(This is after the destruction of the world by fire). “As the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ship,
and they didn’t know until the flood came, and took them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and one will be left(Jesus just finished saying that the FLOOD came and took them all away, and likewise, two and one will be taken like in the flood and one will remain, alive); two women grinding at the mill, one will be taken and one will be left.
Watch therefore, for you don’t know in what hour your Lord comes.
But know
this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
Therefore also be ready, for in an hour that you don’t expect, the Son of Man will come.1st Thess 4:13
But we don’t want you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning those who have fallen asleep, so that you don’t grieve like the rest, who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.
For this we tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left to the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet.
The dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.
So we will be with the Lord forever.Whatever happens, please, always keep these words of Jesus and the Apostles in mind..
“If they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it” (Matthew 24:26)
“Watch that you are not deceived” (Matthew 24:4)
“For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.” (1Thes 5:2)
“Behold, I am coming like a thief” (Revelations 6:15)
“The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up” (2nd Peter 3:10)
I pray anyone reading this go to God to seek truth. He will give it to you, if you trust Him.
'Lean not on thine own understanding'
Thank you for reading.
All,watch this vedeo.
Tb Joshua is doing great miracles in Jesus name,
and bringing many to Jesus.
I am cofused at the moment.1. Is he the one Jesus spokeoff,about the many will come in his name doing great miracles?
2. His preaching the gospel is true.
3.He wont let anyone kneel before him without telling them
to stand up.
4.I want to know if he is a true man of God.
5.watch the other healings taken place.wakeup
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