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Hi C,
Heaven has been cleansed.
Satan and his angelic third are expelled.
Earth and the lower heavens are renewed.
God has dwelled before on earth and will again.
But God will still be in the highest heaven.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2006,01:43) Hi C,
Heaven has been cleansed.
Satan and his angelic third are expelled.
Earth and the lower heavens are renewed.
God has dwelled before on earth and will again.
But God will still be in the highest heaven.
okay I dont think Christ went to cleanse heaven for God.
But this would be good to look into; I am interested.charity
Hi C,
Rev 11
” 15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
Rev 12
” 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
Christ is in heaven again at God's side and sees God's valiant servant Michael cleanse the heavenly temple of all iniquity, even involving 1\3rd of the angels who had dwelled with an amazingly tolerant God, this tolerance well shown with Satan in Job 1-2.
Hi C,
You say
“Beware of those that sell salvation; as if they have something that you would need to Purchase from them; they split the land amongst themselves for disagreements.”They could not divide his vesture.
“35And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.”They could not divide Christ
“1 Corinthians 1:13
Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?'So the body that is divided
Is not the body of ChristNick
Amen
Dan 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
Okay heaven emptied with Michael
Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
What now the wicked are on earth with time to do wickedness; and others being purified and made holy?
Latter God is not going to rise up the ashes to reburn for a day event is he?
No body can rise without books been opened; nobody can sit in heavenly places before their judgment is completecharity
The Father The Son And the Holy Ghost, three to become one.
What the Holy Ghost came before Pentecost.
Mary and Elisabeth were filled with the Holy Ghost and they both began to speak out Loud.
How would you define a Holy Ghost?
A shadow of one who once had life.
Maybe a soul from the past, seeking a place to come to pass
They without us shall not be perfect, those who wandered the desert, returning to dust without promise.
What would you see when your fronted with one of these.
A vision of a figure that has perished, but still exists in eternity.
How do you define the Sprit of Christ?
That sprit that they believed on, sent to bring new life
How is it when the spirit leaves, there is no life left in a body
Remembering the Father the Son and Holy Ghost these are three to be completed in one.
Christ was filled with the Holy Ghost as he went off to his forty days and nights.
Followed by a transfiguration when he climbed upon the mount and his face shone.
Don’t forget to follow him for he will lead to God, your end.
The Spirit of God How do you Define?
When you have the spirit God you have received eternal life, righteous in his sight..
As Christ has said they have my spirit now Lord, I pray they come into the trinity.
At Pentecost the Holy Ghost came, and they where fill, and spoke out loud, different langeges made a sound.
Also the throne of God dwells amongst his people now, through Christ all have a new life, may they become eternal soulsDon’t forget the bible has much to say how we are predesternated to this day
To be transformed on the Mt to the image of God the end of a long race.
Don’t forget such things read, as the whole of the twelve tribes hope to return from the dead.
I wounder as Paul said, Why is it so hard for you to believe that the dead shall rise, as they held him captive for saying such things.
Absurd nonsense, Refered.
To much learning has made you crazy.
These words should be heard, much rejection for the truth will have you thrown out on your head, no tolerance will be found by any who refuse this new life through Christ.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2006,09:11) Hi C,
How can there ever have been three when The Spirit of God makes Two One?
Hi NickChrist’s spirit is only that we are to be adopted by God
Life given by resurrectionRom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Christ’s spirit bears witness with our spirit only; our life must die carrying the cross after Christ for a short time
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:We yet do not know what we shall become
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together.
Gods spirit eternal justification; manifestation on earth. Not A SALVATION Tablet as taught
charity
What goes up must come down; assend desend
Ecc 8:5 Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment.
Ecc 8:6 Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man [is] great upon him.
Ecc 8:7 For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be?
Ecc 8:9 All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: [there is] a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.Jhn 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Pro 21:7 The robbery of the wicked shall destroy them; because they refuse to do judgment.charity
Saved? Salvation? sorting out our salvation? Eternal life?
The whole world has drunk from the golden cup!
These are not my words but I bear record by the word of God
The whole world is drunk and going mad, telling others they are not saved!
Have you ever heard the apostles of God say to a crowd not all of you has he saved
When they spoke to any amount of man they always said!
we have all been saved by grace in hope of eternal life.This is a manifest token of righteous judgment of God that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God.
But he said all men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
O Foolish Galatians who hath bewitched you, Jesus Christ has evidently set forth crucified among you.
Are ye so foolish? Having begun in the spirit, are ye now made perfect in the flesh.
Rich men go away and sell your possessions and give to the poor.
You steel the inheritance of Gods land, by buying and selling Gods Grace to man.
Saying you are not saved go some where else and buy a house.
So many are homeless, turned away, by the Harlot that has believed in vain.
My Grace is to all men, and I have called and chosen them
I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead? not us.
Do you not want to suffer for mine sake? know this that all man must hear a gospel of grace?
And any that do his will have not labored in vain.
Bring into the store house, Claim house back, and give shelter to the homeless, for the destroyers of the inheritance of God are to be destroyed in one Day!
charity
Luminaries of heaven
Yet man cannot command the sun
Neither can sciences, change its run
We can shine a light into darkness,
But never will darkness overtake light.
I have a solar power light; its energy comes from the sun,
But only when its exposed to light,
will it be able withstand the night
We are all clear Cristal seas, looking like glass
And the son shall come on clouds
As a sea of glass we are drawn up, to live in the clouds with him above.
The clouds move in front of the sun, to prevent the heat that we should receive.
As Christ has paid that we may not be burnt.
Who looks at the sun, and hardly sees, for its power far exceeds.
As the sun draws closer, its flames will destroy
But when the clouds calm it down, grace has been found.
Even rain may come, to quench our thirst,
And no man of the earth can command these things.
charity
Hi C,
You said
“As Christ has said they have my spirit now Lord, I pray they come into the trinity.”The Word and his Father united as one in the Father's Spirit do not make a trinity and never will.
Hi c,
Learn from the Master and not the deluded speculations of men.
Trinity was never found in his mouth.Lk 4
“18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”
Learn from the Master and not the deluded speculations of men.
Trinity was never found in his mouth.Amen Thankyou
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
What give's?
charity
hn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Jhn 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Jhn 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.Jhn 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].
Jhn 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.I renounce trinity
In the worldy knowlegecharity
Quote (charity @ Dec. 07 2006,01:06) Learn from the Master and not the deluded speculations of men.
Trinity was never found in his mouth.Amen Thankyou
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
What give's?
charity
Hi c,
The added verse found only in manuscripts later than 1500ad causes many grief. It was placed in the mouth of John by a monk desperate to give his beloved trinity doctrine some sort of veracity as it was embarrassingly bereft of godly support.Trinity was never found in the mouth of the one we call
“Lord, Lord..”Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2006,01:20) Quote (charity @ Dec. 07 2006,01:06) Learn from the Master and not the deluded speculations of men.
Trinity was never found in his mouth.Amen Thankyou
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
What give's?
charity
Hi c,
The added verse found only in manuscripts later than 1500ad causes many grief. It was placed in the mouth of John by a monk desperate to give his beloved trinity doctrine some sort of veracity as it was embarrassingly bereft of godly support.Trinity was never found in the mouth of the one we call
“Lord, Lord..”
Most appreciated NickI have done a search…Yes” void” So FAR!
Well Then Much Disputing and time wasted over deceit.
Oh for the Day’s when 100 will run at the rebuke of one.
charity
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