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Dear Windslasher,
Those who are the Holy Spirit will understand the things of the Spirit, but there are many who do not listen to this same spirit, but listen to seducing spirits. For if they had the same Spirit, they would recognize the things of the Spirit, but sadly, that is not so in many cases. It is for that reason we must test every spirit and how do we do that, with the Word of God.
Nick, as for the laying on of hands and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, if you do not know the words said, how can you claim that you have ever been baptized in the Holy Spirit if you don't even know the words?
Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 28 2006,22:44) Nick, as for the laying on of hands and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, if you do not know the words said, how can you claim that you have ever been baptized in the Holy Spirit if you don't even know the words?
Hi H,
That is one way of responding.
But you could instead show us what you mean from scripture and that would help us all.Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
On the day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came upon the believers. This same Holy Spirit was later given to believers by the laying on of hands and the commandment of Jesus was obeyed by the apostles, for they baptized them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. How do I know this? The water baptism was done in the name of Jesus. And if the apostles were going to remain obedient to Jesus, then they had to baptize as he said and they did so in the Holy Spirit.
Hi H,
I understand your drift.
I disagree as, without elaboration, baptism reverts to the type of water in scripture in my view.But is there a record of the apostles obeying this command then in this way in Acts,
bearing in mind the “name” of the Holy Spirit does not exist,
as the Spirit proceeds from God through Jesus?There was records, many records of how the baptism were done in the early church, yet the records were vanquished. If there is any remaining historic records, it could cause the fall of the catholic church. For this church is not only responsible for the changing of the baptisms, but the corrupting of the faith by paganism and rituals. They sought out all historic records and either destroyed them or buried them in the catacolms in Rome. It is for this reason God hates this harlot.
Spoken like a true follower of catholocism. As for my proof, I have posted much. If you were of the same spirit, you would have already known.
My evidence is already in posts. If you had the same spirit, you would have the understanding also. I can't open your eyes, only God can do that. If you want to know the truth, if you want to be of the same spirit, then you have to pray that God give you the same spirit. I don't know what else to tell you Nick. I can't make you see what God chooses not to let you see. I have tried to help you understand and to me, it is not that hard, yet, you cannot. Something is blocking your understanding. What I do not know. All I can tell is to pray the Lord give you understanding.
Hi H,
Do you find that all who listen to you immediately recognise your all words as being from the Spirit? Do those who hear you preach from the pulpit know they are hearing only what God wants them to hear?
That is quite unique if it is so.When the power of the Holy Spirit moves, it is a unique and wonderful thing. Those who are immersed in it succomb to God's awesome power. He inhabits the praise of the saints. When a spirit filled believer preaches the Word of God, is it the man or the unction of the Holy Spirit that pours out of the man? And when the heart of the unsaved is pierced through preaching the Word of God, is the words that come from the pulput that of the man or the unction of the Holy Spirit that brings men to salvation?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 28 2006,21:52) Hi,
Catholics believe Mary, and those the pope says are saints, are in heaven. As such they believe they can help us on earth and so they are encouraged to pray to them. The ones who are said to be in heaven have to be proven to be there by the answering of prayers made to them and the more such “miracles” that can be “shown” the quicker is their progress to being called a saint.Folly upon folly
Lies upon lies.
You think Mary is in hell?Quote (Robyn † @ Aug. 29 2006,01:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 28 2006,21:52) Hi,
Catholics believe Mary, and those the pope says are saints, are in heaven. As such they believe they can help us on earth and so they are encouraged to pray to them. The ones who are said to be in heaven have to be proven to be there by the answering of prayers made to them and the more such “miracles” that can be “shown” the quicker is their progress to being called a saint.Folly upon folly
Lies upon lies.
You think Mary is in hell?
Hi Robyn,
She is as much a wonderful daughter of God as any other earthenware vessel.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 29 2006,02:05) Quote (Robyn † @ Aug. 29 2006,01:50) nick wrote:Hi,
Catholics believe Mary, and those the pope says are saints, are in heaven. ……Folly upon folly……
Lies upon lies.
Well…if Mary is not in Heaven..then she is in hell.Hi Robyn,
Have a read of the last chapter
of the last book of the bible
and then tell us
what is the final place of residence of man.Hi Robyn,
The issue any way is not where Mary is now, but whether it is scriptural for men to pray to anyone but God.Whether or not Mary appeared in vision in Lourdes or Fatima or anywhere else, and frankly I do not believe it was her, does not alter this rather more basic fact.
We worship and pray to the God of Jesus and Mary and us.
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