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TT,
Was that when you were dillusional? You don't remember?
Happy are you not to because it was an awful thing to say?What will you do when I play your recording back to you, unless editing rights gave allowed you to erase the posts.
Remember, this is not the first or second time I have wtitten this. So what happened the other times that you did not respond? Waiting for time to wash your sins away?
JustAskin said:
Quote If Jesus was God, his suffering was faux, he was only pretending to suffer, while all the while telling fleshly man that it was ok to suffer for him because his father would reward them? How noble, not!
JA,Please prove that God cannot suffer. If God can suffer, which He can, then your whole point fails.
thinker
TT,
Where dd you come from, and where are you going?
To be 'dead to sin and alive to God' is nothing to do with this duscussion.
It means 'if you kill sin in your life you will have life in God'. It is not even talking about death in the flesh but concerning the spirit.All your posts are merely smokescreen. You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
Plastering this thread with nonesense only serves to deflect your false ideas that are being exposed.
Go back to arguing with Mikeboll64, at least I agree with somethings you say there.
Do yourself proud and talk the truth, even if it is by accident.
Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,08:48) TT,
Was that when you were delusional? You don't remember?
Happy are you not to because it was an awful thing to say?What will you do when I play your recording back to you, unless editing rights gave allowed you to erase the posts.
Remember, this is not the first or second time I have wtitten this. So what happened the other times that you did not respond? Waiting for time to wash your sins away?
JA,It is you who is delusional. Moreover, for you to think that I would edit to hide something tells a lot about you and the “god” you inwhich you believe. Even if I would edit I have no idea where those posts are on “half truths.” But I welcome someone to find them and show I spoke the things of which you accuse me. I NEVER said that God is a God of half truths. You probably read it that way though.
I never reponded because I never saw it before now. I don't read all the posts here. Unlike you I have a life of service to God. Trinitarians don't just talk about serving Him. They serve Him. Anti-trinitarians are jealous for a God they don't even serve.
It's funny you guys are so gung ho about serving “no other gods.” But God said also “you shall serve me.”
So you are an idolater just as much as those you think serve false gods. Apparently the “god” of which you speak is okay with your bearing false witneess. It's too bad they don't give marks here for lying against someone.
Study Paul on the meaning of “died” and “death.”
thinker
TT,
What did I say to you. Go back to arguing with someone else who you can boost your ego. I am not that man.TT, 'you are my fun, Today, I have forgotten you!'
Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,09:01) TT, Where dd you come from, and where are you going?
To be 'dead to sin and alive to God' is nothing to do with this duscussion.
It means 'if you kill sin in your life you will have life in God'. It is not even talking about death in the flesh but concerning the spirit.All your posts are merely smokescreen. You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
Plastering this thread with nonesense only serves to deflect your false ideas that are being exposed.
Go back to arguing with Mikeboll64, at least I agree with somethings you say there.
Do yourself proud and talk the truth, even if it is by accident.
JA,I noticed that you did not comment on the verse in 2 corinthians 5. WHY? Paul said to be absent (dead) FROM THE BODY is to be present (alive) WITH THE LORD.
This means that when a person is dead to one thing he is alive to another thing. Why did you not comment on that verse JA? Certainly that verse pertains to our discussion. Your cracking me up saying that I am here to help out WJ. First, WJ don't need my help. Second, I am responding to your false witness against me.
If WJ is in the quick sand then why are you avoiding the verse I gave from 2 corinthians 5? Paul said “to be absent (dead) from the body is to be present (alive) with the Lord.”
This verse by itself destroys your gnostic and anti-christian heresies.
thinker
Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,09:06) TT,
What did I say to you. Go back to arguing with someone else who you can boost your ego. I am not that man.TT, 'you are my fun, Today, I have forgotten you!'
JA,If you could answer my points you would want to expose me and not get rid of me. You want thethinker to leave because you are no match for him. Thethinker was studying the Bible when JA was still hanging out with Maggie Simpson.
thinker
Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,16:37) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,07:48) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36) As what did Jesus die, God or Man?
JAI have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening.
Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6).
Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us!
Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights.
Now I have some questions for you sir..
- Does man cease to exist when he dies? If so explain Luke 16:19-31 – Matt 10:28 – Acts 2:21
- Does God have a body and blood? If not please explain Acts 20:28.
WJ
WJlike i say ,your comments are like you have never read the bible ,and i know that not true ,you have .
but you have never believed in the scriptures,because you would not talk the way you do if you would have believe .
your foundation are not true .and all things you try to build on it will not stand.with the rest of the scriptures,
if you would have the holy spirit you would know the truth because the holy spirit can not deny his own.
fdkfhjdsldsh mumbo jumboAhhh the Dynamic duo (WJ and The Thinker) or is it the dumbed down duo.
You two should go on the road. In fact lay down on the road and I will start my truck. LOLQuote (thethinker @ April 03 2010,09:33) Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,09:06) TT,
What did I say to you. Go back to arguing with someone else who you can boost your ego. I am not that man.TT, 'you are my fun, Today, I have forgotten you!'
JA,If you could answer my points you would want to expose me and not get rid of me. You want thethinker to leave because you are no match for him. Thethinker was studying the Bible when JA was still hanging out with Maggie Simpson.
thinker
TTthis would mean that you and i would have been in kinder garden together in separate schools
Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,16:42) WJ,
Why are you directing me to John 1:1 when the Scriptures say that He emptied Himself of his Divine nature and became Man, the Second Adam, no less. Was Adam 'God Almighty' or 'part of a Trinity'?Your answer that Jesus was a hybrid God-Man is nowhere supported in the Scriptures.
'For since by Man came death [through sin], by Man also came the ressurection of the dead'(1 Corinthians 15:21)
If Jesus died as [true] God, and how can a true God die?, then He was not God in the first place and the Trinity is broken.
So, either and both ways, you have broken your own Trinity. And well you knew it and that is why you could not answer previously.
You have been desperate to avoud the question while seeking some manner of 'get out of jail' answer. not so, my man, I had you tagged!
1 Corinthians 15:45-49 “And so it is written, 'The first MAN Adam became a living being.' the last Adam became a lifegiving Spirit.
However, the Spirit is not first, but the natural, and afterwards the spiritual.
The first MAN was of the earth; the second MAN is from heaven.' meaning Spiritual, not God.If Jesus was God, his suffering was faux, he was only pretending to suffer, while all the while telling fleshly man that it was ok to suffer for him because his father would reward them? How noble, not!
JAJibberish! You didn't answer a single question that I asked but only did a carnal Arianistic false logistical rain dance!
John 1:1 “AND THE WORD WAS GOD”. Did the Word cease from being the Word? Did the Word who was God cease to being God?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,10:22) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,16:37) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,07:48) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36) As what did Jesus die, God or Man?
JAI have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening.
Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6).
Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us!
Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights.
Now I have some questions for you sir..
- Does man cease to exist when he dies? If so explain Luke 16:19-31 – Matt 10:28 – Acts 2:21
- Does God have a body and blood? If not please explain Acts 20:28.
WJ
WJlike i say ,your comments are like you have never read the bible ,and i know that not true ,you have .
but you have never believed in the scriptures,because you would not talk the way you do if you would have believe .
your foundation are not true .and all things you try to build on it will not stand.with the rest of the scriptures,
if you would have the holy spirit you would know the truth because the holy spirit can not deny his own.
fdkfhjdsldsh mumbo jumbo
WJsorry i don't dance.
Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,17:01) TT,
You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
JAYou are such a child and a coward!
You make lame statements like this and totally avoid questions put to you. You are the one creating smoke screens!
How about it, you want to debate that Jesus Spirit did not die in the debates thread? Just you and me, and Jack nor your cohorts can join in, just you and me?
Are you willing?
WJ
Quote (martian @ April 02 2010,18:24) Ahhh the Dynamic duo (WJ and The Thinker) or is it the dumbed down duo.
You two should go on the road. In fact lay down on the road and I will start my truck. LOL
MartianIs that all you and others like you know how to do is play silly little Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, games by just throwing little stones of accusations rather than refuting the points?
Does this give you guys pleasure? So childish!
Yea they wanted to crucify Jesus for telling them the truth, not surprised that you would like to run us over!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,10:34) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,17:01) TT,
You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
JAYou are such a child and a coward!
You make lame statements like this and totally avoid questions put to you. You are the one creating smoke screens!
How about it, you want to debate that Jesus Spirit did not die in the debates thread? Just you and me, and Jack nor your cohorts can join in, just you and me?
Are you willing?
WJ
WJ
WJi think the debate should be more on something you do not believe not something JA believes,
there is no contest if you say to believe in the same thing
just a thought
Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,18:40) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,10:34) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,17:01) TT,
You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
JAYou are such a child and a coward!
You make lame statements like this and totally avoid questions put to you. You are the one creating smoke screens!
How about it, you want to debate that Jesus Spirit did not die in the debates thread? Just you and me, and Jack nor your cohorts can join in, just you and me?
Are you willing?
WJ
WJ
WJi think the debate should be more on something you do not believe not something JA believes,
there is no contest if you say to believe in the same thing
just a thought
We do not believe in the same thing apparently.God is Spirit. The Word was in the Form of God which is Spirit.
The Spirit, the Word did not die but went to hades for three days and three nights.
So the Arian claim that Trinitarianism is false because God cannot die is a huge “Straw man” because death does not mean to cease to exist!
WJ
Quote (martian @ April 03 2010,10:24) Ahhh the Dynamic duo (WJ and The Thinker) or is it the dumbed down duo.
You two should go on the road. In fact lay down on the road and I will start my truck. LOL
Martian,
This is the best you got? Hows about you start your spaceship and take off for Mars and rejoin your fellow martians.
thinker
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,10:46) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,18:40) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,10:34) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,17:01) TT,
You have come to help rescue WJ from the quicksand he walked into.
JAYou are such a child and a coward!
You make lame statements like this and totally avoid questions put to you. You are the one creating smoke screens!
How about it, you want to debate that Jesus Spirit did not die in the debates thread? Just you and me, and Jack nor your cohorts can join in, just you and me?
Are you willing?
WJ
WJ
WJi think the debate should be more on something you do not believe not something JA believes,
there is no contest if you say to believe in the same thing
just a thought
We do not believe in the same thing apparently.God is Spirit. The Word was in the Form of God which is Spirit.
The Spirit, the Word did not die but went to hades for three days and three nights.
So the Arian claim that Trinitarianism is false because God cannot die is a huge “Straw man” because death does not mean to cease to exist!
WJ
WJsomething dead in our world does not mean it is dead in God s
think of judgement,we all have to stand ,unless you totally repent.and then the second dead applies.WJ,
I have not gone away.
Nor am I avoiding your questions…by the way, they are a distraction rather than pointed.We've debated these points in Trinitarian (Part 2). Remember when you were 'too busy' to answer and let TT front you.
The arguments you are now bringing to the table…coward!Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,19:12) WJ, I have not gone away.
Nor am I avoiding your questions…by the way, they are a distraction rather than pointed.We've debated these points in Trinitarian (Part 2). Remember when you were 'too busy' to answer and let TT front you.
The arguments you are now bringing to the table…coward!
JAThat is funny!
Look back. I have been debating you before Jack even came in the picture! LOL.
Then you say my questions are distractions, though I give you scriptures and an opportunity to explain yourself. But I guess you can't!
I have more time now so lets go JA. Stop making excuses!
I put a challenge to you and you do not accept it then you call me a coward!
WJ
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