Can god be tempted?

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,03:04)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:48) Ed wrote: Notice how that verse uses the word AND instead of OR, because what 'you' say can “Change”! Circular! Because the same word is to you! Matt.12:37: For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. WJ Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25) Hi WJ, Your use of the “Edit” button (regarding Posts to me) is PROOF of what I say! Ed And your continued accusations and lies about something you know nothing about is proof that you are here to only accuse, and will bring condemnation on you according to Jesus own words. I use the edit button almost in all my post, and most of the time it is because of spelling or grammar! Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 21 2009,16:31) If you believe that scriptures are corrupted or were added, then your argument is circular for it could be said that the Arians added scriptures also to discredit the Trinity! You lose all crediblity in claiming any scripture to be true because you believe they are corrupt. It is odd that people like yourself would argue a doctrine from a book that they believe is corrupt. LOL WJ Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25) Hi WJ, You present a false argument, WJ. Just because your beliefs have serious flaws in them does NOT mean we cannot learn from you? God bless No I don't commit a false argument because the scriptures themselves claim to be the inspired word of God. Mens opinions may or may not be inspired! Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25) See WJ, you can learn from me! You now understand that 'Athiest logic' is 'wrong'! God bless Ed J I am not saying I cannot learn from you, I just choose to put distance between your teachings and myself because of the basic tenets of the Faith which we disagree on! WJ

Hi WJ,

Who's the one bringing accusations?

Ed J

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,03:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:26) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:43) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:17) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34) ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ Hi WJ, What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed Why do you cut off my sentence that tells you the answer and then proceed to ask me what I am refering too? You say “that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus”! So please spare us of posting another 150 words of your false assumptions! WJ Hi WJ, Explain how that denies the tenets of Christianity? Ed J ED Already been there and done that. Not interested! WJ

Hi WJ,

Accusations with NO proof; typical!

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet,
                they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Ed J

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,13:05)

WJ, Concerning the errored views of the Jews as expounded by John, wgat was Jesus' response. I see you stop short of mentioning that. Concerning whether Jesus died as God or Man, you still, again, do not answer, but instead talk around the subject. I ask yet again: As what did Jesus die, God or Man?

JA

As in the past I gave you the answer. You don't like it fine.

Jesus died, was buried and rose again.

Now go and find out what dieing means, for it does not mean the Spirit/soul of man ceases to exist, but rather that he departs from the temple he lives in, the body or flesh tent.

“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

So Jesus as the “Eternal Spirit”, God did not die but went to the center of the earth “Hades” for three days and two nights, therefore your claim that God cannot die therefore Jesus cannot be God is a “STRAW”.

If you want to set up a debate in the debates thread on this I will accomadate you so you will quite yourself about us not answering you!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2010,13:46)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,03:06) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:26) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:43) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:17) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34) ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ Hi WJ, What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed Why do you cut off my sentence that tells you the answer and then proceed to ask me what I am refering too? You say “that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus”! So please spare us of posting another 150 words of your false assumptions! WJ Hi WJ, Explain how that denies the tenets of Christianity? Ed J ED Already been there and done that. Not interested! WJ Hi WJ, Accusations with NO proof; typical! Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet,                 they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Ed J

ED

There is no accusations in my words.

You are getting annoying! Please get off my case!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,13:05)

WJ, Concerning the errored views of the Jews as expounded by John, wgat was Jesus' response. I see you stop short of mentioning that. Concerning whether Jesus died as God or Man, you still, again, do not answer, but instead talk around the subject. I ask yet again: As what did Jesus die, God or Man?

JA

Jesus response after that was a continued claim of equality because he says whatever the Father does, he does, and the Father judges no man but has commited all judgment to him, and that men were to honor him “even as” the Father!

WJ

[JustAskin]

WJ,

You are beyond belief.

Now it is for sure your belief is false.

There is not an ounce of God's Holy Spirited Scriptural Truth in your responses.

Yes, Jesus died, but as what did he die: God or Man?

One moment you say Jesus didn't die and the next he did!

Who revealed this conflicting views to you? Are you wrestling with your conscience?
Well, that is good, keep wrestling 'with God' and try not to resist Him lest He put your hip out of joint, too!

[JustAskin]

T8,
Why can't I get editing rights?

Give everyone the rights to the rights until they transgress thise rights…

Judge not. You are the 'God' if this site, do you say 'all are guilty until proved innocent'?

How then dies one become 'Innocent'?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,14:46)

WJ, You are beyond belief. Now it is for sure your belief is false. There is not an ounce of God's Holy Spirited Scriptural Truth in your responses. Yes, Jesus died, but as what did he die: God or Man? One moment you say Jesus didn't die and the next he did! Who revealed this conflicting views to you? Are you wrestling with your conscience? Well, that is good, keep wrestling 'with God' and try not to resist Him lest He put your hip out of joint, too!

JA

No it is you that is wrestling with your conscience. Please show where what I say is not true by scriptures.

You apparently do not understand what dying means.

So instead of making lame and empty accusations give me biblical proof that what I say is not true. Lets take it to the debates thread Mr know it all!

WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,06:51)

T8, Why can't I get editing rights? Give everyone the rights to the rights until they transgress thise rights… Judge not. You are the 'God' if this site, do you say 'all are guilty until proved innocent'? How then dies one become 'Innocent'?

JA

in wich world are you living??

if we would all be true Christians it would not be a problem.
it still the laws of the wicket world we live in. untill Christ return.

[JustAskin]

Terra,

Not sure what you saying, my brother.

I am asking T8 for editing rights on this site.

It is his website and gives or denies editing rights as he pleases.

He says people have abused the editing rights in the past so now noone? gets it so I am asking him how then do we get it if we have to prove our worthyness before we can get it.

[JustAskin]

WJ,

There need not be a problem if you refrain from deviousness in your responses.

The question is simple enough:

As what did Jesus die, God or Man?

It is you who cannot answer – and the reason is quite obvious.

You claim that my posts are nothing compared to what you have faced in the past! So, demonstrate your belief and great learning here, right now!

As what did Jesus die: God or Man?

(p.s. Let me help you seeing that you fibd the question so hard.
If you answer 'God', then you deny all the Gospel.
If you answer 'Man' you deny the Trinity.

So, now, which one of us is wrestling with our conscience?)

[JustAskin]

oh, and if you claim that Jesus didn't die at all, then you make God, Jesus, the disciples and the Scriptures liars, as they all declare that Jesus 'died'…and 'breathed his last'

Copying TT's rather ill thoughtout waffling does help, he ended up claiming that God was a 'God of Half Truths', remember, that's when I stopped harrassing him concerning the issue, remember?
I even asked you to help him, remember?

[JustAskin]

error, 'doesn't help'…

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36)

As what did Jesus die, God or Man?

JA

I have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening.

Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6).

Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us!

Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights.

Now I have some questions for you sir..

[KangarooJack]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,07:48)

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36) As what did Jesus die, God or Man? JA I have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening. Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6). Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us! Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights. Now I have some questions for you sir.. Does man cease to exist when he dies? If so explain Luke 16:19-31 – Matt 10:28 – Acts 2:21 Does God have a body and blood? If not please explain Acts 20:28. WJ

Keith,

JA's sets up a false dichotomy when he says, “Did Jesus die as God or Man.” Jesus was ONE person. He cannot be divided.

thinker

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (thethinker @ April 02 2010,16:12)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,07:48) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36) As what did Jesus die, God or Man? JA I have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening. Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6). Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us! Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights. Now I have some questions for you sir.. Does man cease to exist when he dies? If so explain Luke 16:19-31 – Matt 10:28 – Acts 2:21 Does God have a body and blood? If not please explain Acts 20:28. WJ Keith, JA's sets up a false dichotomy when he says, “Did Jesus die as God or Man.” Jesus was ONE person. He cannot be divided. thinker

Jack

They will go to any extreme to deny what is written. The Anti-Trinitarians must have a pretty big bill for all the white out they use!

WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,07:48)

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,15:36) As what did Jesus die, God or Man? JA I have answered you but you have stopped your ears and are not listening. Jesus died as both God and Man. Jesus the “Word” that was with God and was God (John 1:1 – 1 John 1:1-3) was in the “Form of God” which is a Spirit being (John 4:24 -Phil 2:6). Jesus came in the flesh (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and dwelt or was tabernacled (Greek for dwelt) among us! Jesus Spirit left his body and he went to Hades for three days and two nights. Now I have some questions for you sir.. Does man cease to exist when he dies? If so explain Luke 16:19-31 – Matt 10:28 – Acts 2:21 Does God have a body and blood? If not please explain Acts 20:28. WJ

WJ

like i say ,your comments are like you have never read the bible ,and i know that not true ,you have .

but you have never believed in the scriptures,because you would not talk the way you do if you would have believe .

your foundation are not true .and all things you try to build on it will not stand.with the rest of the scriptures,

if you would have the holy spirit you would know the truth because the holy spirit can not deny his own.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,07:42)

oh, and if you claim that Jesus didn't die at all, then you make God, Jesus, the disciples and the Scriptures liars, as they all declare that Jesus 'died'…and 'breathed his last' Copying TT's rather ill thoughtout waffling does help, he ended up claiming that God was a 'God of Half Truths', remember, that's when I stopped harrassing him concerning the issue, remember? I even asked you to help him, remember?

JA,

You know nothing. Show where I said that God is a God of half truths. Does your Arain God approve of your speaking false witness?

From Wikipedia, a half truth

Quote

A half-truth is a deceptive statement that includes some element of truth. The statement might be partly true, the statement may be totally true but only part of the whole truth, or it may utilize some deceptive element, such as improper punctuation, or double meaning, especially if the intent is to deceive, evade, blame or misrepresent the truth.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-truth

First, your assertion that Jesus “died” is only a part of the whole truth. The whole truth is that He was “put to death in the flesh but quickened in the spirit.” So whenever we read that Jesus “died” we know that it was in His flesh alone. His spirit did not die. Our spirits do not die.

Second, to Paul “death” did not mean “to cease to exist.” It meant to be dead to one person or thing but alive to another person or thing.

“Count yourselves therefore to be dead TO SIN but alive TO GOD” (Rom. 6)

“To be absent (dead) FROM THE BODY is to be present (alive) WITH THE LORD” 2 corinthians 5

You must ignore Paul's view of death because it CONDEMNS your anti-christian views.

thinker

[JustAskin]

WJ,
Why are you directing me to John 1:1 when the Scriptures say that He emptied Himself of his Divine nature and became Man, the Second Adam, no less. Was Adam 'God Almighty' or 'part of a Trinity'?

Your answer that Jesus was a hybrid God-Man is nowhere supported in the Scriptures.

'For since by Man came death [through sin], by Man also came the ressurection of the dead'(1 Corinthians 15:21)

If Jesus died as [true] God, and how can a true God die?, then He was not God in the first place and the Trinity is broken.

So, either and both ways, you have broken your own Trinity. And well you knew it and that is why you could not answer previously.

You have been desperate to avoud the question while seeking some manner of 'get out of jail' answer. not so, my man, I had you tagged!

1 Corinthians 15:45-49 “And so it is written, 'The first MAN Adam became a living being.' the last Adam became a lifegiving Spirit.
However, the Spirit is not first, but the natural, and afterwards the spiritual.
The first MAN was of the earth; the second MAN is from heaven.' meaning Spiritual, not God.

If Jesus was God, his suffering was faux, he was only pretending to suffer, while all the while telling fleshly man that it was ok to suffer for him because his father would reward them? How noble, not!

[KangarooJack]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,08:42)

WJ, Why are you directing me to John 1:1 when the Scriptures say that He emptied Himself of his Divine nature and became Man, the Second Adam, no less. Was Adam 'God Almighty' or 'part of a Trinity'? Your answer that Jesus was a hybrid God-Man is nowhere supported in the Scriptures. 'For since by Man came death [through sin], by Man also came the ressurection of the dead'(1 Corinthians 15:21) If Jesus died as [true] God, and how can a true God die?, then He was not God in the first place and the Trinity is broken. So, either and both ways, you have broken your own Trinity. And well you knew it and that is why you could not answer previously. You have been desperate to avoud the question while seeking some manner of 'get out of jail' answer.  not so, my man, I had you tagged! 1 Corinthians 15:45-49 “And so it is written, 'The first MAN Adam became a living being.' the last Adam became a lifegiving Spirit. However, the Spirit is not first, but the natural, and afterwards the spiritual. The first MAN was of the earth; the second MAN is from heaven.' meaning Spiritual, not God. If Jesus was God, his suffering was faux, he was only pretending to suffer, while all the while telling fleshly man that it was ok to suffer for him because his father would reward them? How noble, not!

JA,

Please read my post above about “half truths” and “Jesus died” and listen for once.

thinker

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