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Hi,
Yeshua said
“Do this in memory of me”Being brought up catholic I was taught the Bread and wine were the Body and Blood of Yeshua on earth and my eternal salvation absolutely depended on regular attendance at the “sacrifice' of the Mass. The death of Yeshua was symbolically reenacted and we knelt and worshipped the bread and wine, as Yeshua, before sharing communion.
Leaving 22 yrs ago I went to various churches where a totally different attitude prevailed. The “emblems” of bread and fruit juice were shared occasionally. Though I realised what I had left behind was extreme and idolatrous I felt the new approach was casual and shallow.
The answer has to be somewhere in between. I believe it is essential to partake as it does symbolise the death of Yeshua and in sharing we give witness to God and each other that we have a role in the body[bread] and share the Spirit [wine]
What do others think?I like how one loaf is broken, his body broken for us; how the many broken pieces represent Jesus' body, the Body of Christ, and how he promised to drink the wine with us in the age to come, and not before that!
Communion gives us a glimpse of what Jesus meant in the John 17 prayer and it is as meaningful as prayer and any act of worship to God. I don't see the elements as literal or merely symbolic. It's meaningful and real is all. I am grateful that God gave his son for our sakes, and that Jesus gave himself for us. I look forward to the time he drinks with us.
Up until 2 years ago or so, I wasn't sure whether or not children should partake due to the fact that different churches practice differently and hardly anything is taught on the subject. I sought the Lord and was directed to the first Passover in Egypt. All Israel partook of it. Consequently, I now believe that all children of faithful followers of Jesus Christ should partake. If a person is old enough and forsakes the way of Christ, then that person should certainly not partake, but before that, while they are yet children and under the jurisdiction of their godly parents, they are counted as “Israel” in this sense.
I don't even think that the very young children need to “understand,” because the Lord says that in time, when they ask why such a thing is done, parents should then explain. As they grow, prayerfully, we trust God that they shan't depart from the Way but will take up their cross and follow Jesus too.
Anyway, that is my conviction.
hello all , what you have to look at is the time of year the Passover took place from when it was first established and what it originally represent. So Yeshua tells his disciple to do this in remembrance of Him. now the following year at the passover after seeing our Lord rise from the dead at the previous Passover you know they are gonna hold to what he said.
i myself have a better understanding what our Lord is doing for us when i see him as our living passover lamb, his blood covers us and saves us as in Ex. 12:7 Ex. 12:13.how Passover came to be practiced on every sunday you can read Easebius ecclesiastical history, he gives some glues , they where having some disputes over Passover , one group wanted to keep it as it always had been kepted, and the other wanted to , well we see what happens every sunday.
So which celebration did Yeshua ask to be remembered by,
which celebration was he saying his body representsHi NA,
Acts 2.42-46“They were continually devoting them selves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer…
Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house..”So the teaching, fellowship and prayer had similar importance to the breaking of bread it would seem.
Cubes. It was easier in a way for the early church because they were fellowshiping with those who they knew were in Christ as they had all joined together. These days it is less easy to assess that those who would fellowship and share in the bread with us are united with him as they are denominationally based.
Quote “They were continually devoting them selves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer…
Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house..”So the teaching, fellowship and prayer had similar importance to the breaking of bread it would seem.
Couldn't 'breaking of bread' simply mean that they shared a meal together. They were fellowshiping together and then they would eat a meal together – just as the disciples did on many occasions with Yahshua.
My understanding is that we should celebrate Yahshua's death at Passover with the new symbols of bread and the fruit of the vine.
It is interesting to note that 'fruit (1081) of the vine (288)' may not necessarily be 'wine (3631)' – it could simply be grape juice.
Hi RR,
I don't see that term of breaking bread elsewhere in the word as meaning just sharing a meal.At the paschal meal in Lk 22.19f
” and when he had taken some bread and given thanks he broke it and gave it to them saying
'This is my body which is given for you;do this in remembrance of me'
And in the same way he took the cup after they had eaten saying
'This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood”
1Cor 10.15f
“Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread we break a sharing in the body of Christ? Since there is one bread we who are many are one body;for we all partake of the one bread”The problem with grape juice in hot climates is stopping it fermenting. It naturally does so and takes a lot of effort to stop that process.
Hi,
When Yeshua suffered and died his body was broken and his blood was poured out for us. The life is in the blood scripture tells us.When we are born into him and break bread and share the cup we reconstitute in symbol the living body of Yeshua of which we have become a part.
Hi,
The catholics take literally the symbolism of Yeshua being the bread of life in Jn 6. They combine it with where Yeshua says “my flesh is real food” to try to worship the bread and wine AS Yeshua.They do not notice that scripture in Jn 6.63 where he says
“it is the Spirit that gives life;the flesh profits nothing”Nor do they realise that he is saying he is the living Word of God and reiterating that
“man cannot live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God”Besides even if they were right, and they are not, they would only be worshiping the BODY of Yeshua, his physical aspect, and that is only of the dust as we are. He, like us, lived in his body. Even we are more than a body.
We are not meant to worship Yeshua anyway but surely to worship only his body would be a bizarre thing to do?
Yeshua Is the word of God, and at Passover they eat unleaven bread , nothing added to the bread, so he wants nothing added to his word, as he warns in Matt. 16:6 , and in breaking bread he wants us to share God's word as it is , and the Holy Spirit will bring understanding ,
Hi,
1Cor 10.16
“…Is not the bread we break a sharing in the Body of Christ? Since there is one bread, we, who are many, are one body;for we all partake of the one bread”p.s. So what of the denominations that produce individual wafers? They do not appreciate the meaning of the broken body of Christ, shared and joining us as one in him.
Hi,
The sign of true fellowship with Christ and his followers is breaking bread and sharing the cup[1Cor 11.20f].So with whom can we do this? Are we convinced our church fellowship is joined with Christ, because so is the man from the denomination next door, and the man from the one across the road?
Christ is not divided. The Spirit is not divided.Hi,
Catholicism worships the bread and the wine AS Christ.
This is what 1 Cor 10 says
” 14Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.15I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?”
Hi,
Of course when “the bread of life” took bread and broke it in memory of his impending death and then shared that bread and the wine of the new covenant with his followers thus sharing and uniting them in that imagery with himself, body and blood again as one, he did a very powerful and lasting thing, which we are meant to continue.
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