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Quote (t8 @ Nov. 19 2010,12:51) True. It is analogue and physical technology that degrades.
I don't think anything God creates degrades either it's like a DVD that skips it just needs to be cleaned and that's what God does for us while where still in the physical world he blots out our imperfections if we are faithfulQuote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:30) There is the definite article (THE). e.g., THE theos is not the same as theos.
THE adam is not the same as adam.
Similarly in English we can say the following:
The man made tools.
or
Man made tools.One of those sentences is identifying a particular person and the other is talking of man in general.
Likewise we are sons, but we are not THE son.
Hence you have no reason to doubt ALLAH(The God) is God since it has the definite article.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,18:01) The deception of 'al-Lah', the false god of the muslims
Why would you call Jesus a clone?Hi BD,
Your question implies that you didn't watch the video; you didn't watch it?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,06:01) Hi BD, Your question implies that you didn't watch the video; you didn't watch it?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Surah 151 A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear.
2 Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to Allah.s will) in Islam.
3 Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them).
4 Never did We destroy a population that had not a term decreed and assigned beforehand.
5 Neither can a people anticipate its term, nor delay it.
6 They say: “O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)!
7 “Why bringest thou not angels to us if it be that thou hast the Truth?”
8 We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have!
9 We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
10 We did send apostles before thee amongst the religious sects of old:
11 But never came an apostle to them but they mocked him.
12 Even so do we let it creep into the hearts of the sinners –
13 That they should not believe in the (Message); but the ways of the ancients have passed away.
14 Even if We opened out to them a gate from heaven, and they were to continue (all day) ascending therein,
15 They would only say: “Our eyes have been intoxicated: Nay, we have been bewitched by sorcery.”
16 It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders;
17 And (moreover) We have guarded them from every evil spirit accursed:
18 But any that gains a hearing by stealth, is pursued by a flaming fire, bright (to see).
19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
20 And We have provided therein means of subsistence,- for you and for those for whose sustenance ye are not responsible.
21 And there is not a thing but its (sources and) treasures (inexhaustible) are with Us; but We only send down thereof in due and ascertainable measures.
22 And We send the fecundating winds, then cause the rain to descend from the sky, therewith providing you with water (in abundance), though ye are not the guardians of its stores.
23 And verily, it is We Who give life, and Who give death: it is We Who remain inheritors (after all else passes away).
24 To Us are known those of you who hasten forward, and those who lag behind.
25 Assuredly it is thy Lord Who will gather them together: for He is perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge.
26 We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;
27 And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
28 Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: “I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud moulded into shape;
29 “When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.”
30 So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together:
31 Not so Iblis: he refused to be among those who prostrated themselves.
32 ((Allah)) said: “O Iblis! what is your reason for not being among those who prostrated themselves?”
33 (Iblis) said: “I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape.”
34 ((Allah)) said: “Then get thee out from here; for thou art rejected, accursed.
35 “And the curse shall be on thee till the day of Judgment.”
36 (Iblis) said: “O my Lord! give me then respite till the Day the (dead) are raised.”
37 ((Allah)) said: “Respite is granted thee
38 “Till the Day of the Time appointed.”
39 (Iblis) said: “O my Lord! because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong,-
40 “Except Thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by Thy Grace).”
41 ((Allah)) said: “This (way of My sincere servants) is indeed a way that leads straight to Me.
42 “For over My servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee.”
43 And verily, Hell is the promised abode for them all!
44 To it are seven gates: for each of those gates is a (special) class (of sinners) assigned.
45 The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water).
46 (Their greeting will be): “Enter ye here in peace and security.”
47 And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing each other on thrones (of dignity).
48 There no sense of fatigue shall touch them, nor shall they (ever) be asked to leave.
49 Tell My servants that I am indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;
50 And that My Penalty will be indeed the most grievous Penalty.
51 Tell them about the guests of Abraham.
52 When they entered his presence and said, “Peace!” He said, “We feel afraid of you!”
53 They said: “Fear not! We give thee glad tidings of a son endowed with wisdom.”
54 He said: “Do ye give me glad tidings that old age has seized me? Of what, then, is your good news?”
55 They said: “We give thee glad tidings in truth: be not then in despair!”
56 He said: “And who despairs of the mercy of his Lord, but such as go astray?”
57 Abraham said: “What then is the business on which ye (have come), O ye messengers (of Allah.?”
58 They said: “We have been sent to a people (deep) in sin,
59 “Excepting the adherents of Lut: them we are certainly (charged) to save (from harm),- All –
60 “Except his wife, who, We have ascertained, will be among those who will lag behind.”
61 At length when the messengers arrived among the adherents of Lut,
62 He said: “Ye appear to be uncommon folk.”
63 They said: “Yea, we have come to thee to accomplish that of which they doubt.
64 “We have brought to thee that which is inevitably due, and assuredly we tell the truth.
65 “Then travel by night with thy household, when a portion of the night (yet remains), and do thou bring up the rear: let no one amongst you look back, but pass on whither ye are ordered.”
66 And We made known this decree to him, that the last remnants of those (sinners) should be cut off by the morning.
67 The inhabitants of the city came in (mad) joy (at news of the young men).
68 Lut said: “These are my guests: disgrace me not:
69 “But fear Allah, and shame me not.”
70 They said: “Did we not forbid thee (to speak) for all and sundry?”
71 He said: “There are my daughters (to marry), if ye must act (so).”
72 Verily, by thy life (O Prophet), in their wild intoxication, they wander in distraction, to and fro.
73 But the (mighty) Blast overtook them before morning,
74 And We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay.
75 Behold! in this are Signs for those who by tokens do understand.
76 And the (cities were) right on the high-road.
77
Behold! in this is a sign for those who believed.
78 And the Companions of the Wood were also wrong-doers;
79 So We exacted retribution from them. They were both on an open highway, plain to see.
80 The Companions of the Rocky Tract also rejected the apostles:
81 We sent them Our Signs, but they persisted in turning away from them.
82 Out of the mountains did they hew (their) edifices, (feeling themselves) secure.
83 But the (mighty) Blast seized them of a morning,
84 And of no avail to them was all that they did (with such art and care)!
85 We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming (when this will be manifest). So overlook (any human faults) with gracious forgiveness.
86 For verily it is thy Lord who is the Master-Creator, knowing all things.
87 And We have bestowed upon thee the Seven Oft-repeated (verses) and the Grand Qur'an.
88 Strain not thine eyes. (Wistfully) at what We have bestowed on certain classes of them, nor grieve over them: but lower thy wing (in gentleness) to the believers.
89 And say: “I am indeed he that warneth openly and without ambiguity,”-
90 (Of just such wrath) as We sent down on those who divided (Scripture into arbitrary parts),-
91 (So also on such) as have made Qur'an into shreds (as they please).
92 Therefore, by the Lord, We will, of a surety, call them to account,
93 For all their deeds.
94 Therefore expound openly what thou art commanded, and turn away from those who join false gods with Allah.
95 For sufficient are We unto thee against those who scoff,-
96 Those who adopt, with Allah, another god: but soon will they come to know.
97 We do indeed know how thy heart is distressed at what they say.
98 But celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and be of those who prostrate themselves in adoration.
99 And serve thy Lord until there come unto thee the Hour that is Certain.Hi BD, different gods, different duties.
I have been studying islam for almost 4 years now.
Your duty as a muislim is to protect the deceptions of islam.
My duty as a believer in YHVH is to expose the deceptions of islam.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Hi BD,
Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,18:57) Hi BD, Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Job 12:16
With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.Jeremiah 4:10
Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace; whereas the sword reacheth unto the soul.Jeremiah 20:7
O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived; thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me.The problem is ED you think deception is something evil when in fact deception in it's trues sense is STRATEGY that does not require lying or may incorporate lying as in the case of The harlot Rahab
Joshua 6:17
King James Version (KJV)
17And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
In other words she deceived those who were seeking to kill the spies and GOD BLESSED HER.
I bet you don't play chess do you ED, if you ever knew that great game you would understand Strategy/deception and what is the true nature of it, it is Plotting
And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #54)See you have to doubt God you have to twist the meaning of things you have to LIE on God and say that God does not support war or violence or many things “you ” feel uncomfortable with and so it leaves you looking absolutely silly and boring to a nonbeliever because he knows you have to be LYING because he is witnessing sorrow everyday in the world he is witnessing pain, corruption , intolerence and all sorts of things so to him you are not refreshing you are stifling because you are LYING to him and he knows it.
When you are LYING to these unbelievers you are LYING on GOD and it would do you well to stop.
Jeremiah 14:13-15
King James Version (KJV)
13Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.
14Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
15Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
You should really stop taking God as a joke running around using divination playing games with His name which you don't even attempt to use correctly and should not be using it for common purposes even if you had knowledge of it.
If I were you I would stop being concerned with Islam and start simply by deconstructing the illusion you have built and start from scratch being sincere in whatever path you choose because right now you are blind and a threat to any who hope to see.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,18:57) Hi BD, Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Name/Transliteration Translation
Some selected relevant
verses from the Qur'anALLÂH Allâh (1:1)(3:18)(5:109)(6:124)(7:180)(8:40)
(16:91)(20:8)(57:5)(65:3)(74:56)(85:20)
AR-RAHMÂN The Most Compassionate,
The Beneficent
The Gracious (1:3)(17:110)(19:58)(21:112)
(27:30)(36:52)(50:33)(55:1)(59:22) (78:38)
AR-RAHÎM The Merciful (2:163)(3:31)(4:100)(5:3)(5:98)
(11:41)(12:53)(12:64)(26:9)(30:5)(36:58)
AL-MALIK The King (20:114)(23:116)(59:23)(62:1)(114:2)
AL-QUDDÛS The Most Holy (59:23) (62:1)
AS-SALÂM The All-Peaceful, The Bestower of peace (59:23)
AL-MU'MIN The Granter of security (59:23)
AL-MUHAYMIN The Protector (59:23)
AL-'AZÎZ The Mighty (3:6) (4:158) (9:40) (9:71) (48:7)
(59:23) (61:1)
AL-JABBÂR The Compeller (59:23)
AL-MUTAKABBIR Supreme in Greatness,
The Majestic (59:23)
AL-KHÂLIQ The Creator (6:102) (13:16) (39:62)(40:62)(59:24)
AL-BÂRI' The Maker (59:24)
AL-MUSAWWIR The Bestower of form,
The Shaper (59:24)
AL-GAFFÂR The Forgiver (20:82)(38:66)(39:5)(40:42)(71:10)
AL-QAHHÂR The Subduer (13:16)(14:48)(38:65)(39:4)(40:16)
AL-WAHHÂB The Bestower (3:8)(38:9)(38:35)
AR-RAZZÂQ The Provider (51:58)
AL-FATTÂH The Opener, The Judge (34:26)
AL-'ALÎM The All-Knowing (2:158)(3:92)(4:35)(24:41)(33:40)
(35:38)(57:6)
AL-QÂBID The Withholder (2:245)
AL-BÂSIT The Expander (2:245)
AL-KHÂFID The Abaser
AR-RÂFI' The Exalter
AL-MU'IZZ The Bestower of honour (3:26)
AL-MUDHILL The Humiliator (3:26)
AS-SAMÎ' The All-Hearing (2:127) (2:137) (2:256) (8:17) (49:1)
AL-BASÎR The All-Seeing (4:58) (17:1) (42:11) (42:27) (57:4) (67:19)
AL-HAKAM The Judge (22:69)
AL-'ADL The Just, The Equitable
AL-LATÎF The Gentle, The Knower of subtleties (6:103) (22:63) (31:16) (33:34) (67:14)
AL-KHABÎR The All-Aware (6:18) (17:30) (49:13) (59:18) (63:11)
AL-HALÎM The Forbearing (2:225) (2:235) (17:44) (22:59) (35:41)
AL-'AZÎM The Incomparably Great (2:255) (42:4) (56:96)
AL-GAFÛR The Forgiving (2:173) (8:69) (16:110) (41:32) (60:7)
ASH-SHAKÛR The Appreciative (35:30) (35:34) (42:23) (64:17)
AL-'ALIYY The Most High (2:255) (4:34) (31:30) (42:4) (42:51)
AL-KABÎR The Most Great (13:9) (22:62) (31:30) (34:23) (40:12)
AL-HAFÎZ The Preserver (11:57) (34:21) (42:6)
AL-MUGHÎTH The Sustainer
AL-HASÎB The Reckoner (4:6) (4:86) (33:39)
AL-JALÎL The Majestic, The Revered, The Sublime
AL-KARÎM The Generous (27:40) (82:6)
AR-RAQÎB The Watchful (4:1) (5:117)
AL-MUJÎB The Responsive (11:61)
AL-WÂSI' The All-Encompassing, The All-Embracing (2:115) (2:261) (2:268) (3:73) (5:54)
AL-HAKÎM The Wise (2:129) (2:260) (31:27) (46:2) (57:1)
(66:2)
AL-WADÛD The Loving One (11:90) (85:14)
AL-MAJÎD The Most Glorious (11:73)
AL-BÂ'ITH The Resurrector (22:7)page 35
ASH-SHAHÎD The Witness (4:79)(4:166)(22:17)(41:53)(48:28)
AL-HAQQ The Truth (6:62)(22:6)(23:116)(31:30)
AL-WAKÎL The Ultimate Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs (3:173) (4:171) (28:28) (33:3) (73:9)
AL-QAWIYY The Most Strong (22:40)(22:74)(42:19)(57:25)(58:21)
AL-MATÎN The Firm One, The Authoritative (51:58)
AL-WALIYY The Protector (3:68) (4:45) (7:196) (42:28) (45:19)
AL-HAMÎD The All-Praised, The Praiseworthy (14:1) (14:8) (31:12) (31:26) (41:42)
AL-MUHSÎ The Reckoner
AL-MUBDI' The Originator (10:4)(10:34)(27:64)(29:19)(85:13)
AL-MU'ÎD The Restorer to life (10:4)(10:34)(27:64)(29:19)(85:13)
AL-MUHYÎ The Giver of life (3:156) (7:158) (15:23)(30:50)(57:2)
AL-MUMÎT The Causer of death (3:156) (7:158) (15:23) (57:2)
AL-HAYY The Ever-Living (2:255)(3:2)(20:111)(25:58)(40:65)
AL-QAYYÛM The Self-Existing by Whom all subsist (2:255) (3:2) (20:111)
AL-WÂJID The Self-Sufficient, The All-Perceiving
AL-MÂJID The Glorified
AL-WÂHID The One (2:163) (5:73) (9:31) (18:110) (37:4)
AS-SAMAD The Eternally Besought (112:2)
AL-QÂDIR The Omnipotent, The Able (6:65) (36:81) (46:33) (75:40) (86:8)
AL-MUQTADIR The Powerful (18:45) (54:42) (54:55)
AL-MUQADDIM The Expediter
AL- MU'AKHKHIR The Delayer (71:4)
AL-AWWAL The First (57:3)
AL-ÂKHIR The Last (57:3)
AZ-ZÂHIR The Manifest (57:3)
AL-BÂTIN The Hidden (57:3)
AL-WÂLÎ The Governor, The Protector
AL-MUTA'ÂLÎ The Most Exalted (13:9)
AL-BARR The Benign, The Source of All-Goodness (52:28)
AT-TAWWÂB The Granter and Accepter of repentence (2:37) (2:128) (4:64) (49:12) (110:3)
AL- MUNTAQIM The Lord of Retribution, The Avenger (32:22) (43:41) (44:16)
AL-'AFUWW The Pardoner (4:99) (4:149) (22:60)
AR-RA'ÛF The Most Kind, The Clement (3:30) (9:117) (57:9) (59:10)
MÂLIK-UL-MULK Owner of the Kingdom (3:26)
DHUL JALÂL WAL IKRÂM Possessor of Majesty and Honour (55:27) (55:78)
AL-MUQSIT The Just, The Equitable (3:18)
AL-JÂME' The Gatherer (3:9)
AL-GHANIYY The All-Sufficient (2:263) (3:97) (39:7) (47:38) (57:24)
AL-MUGHNÎ The Enricher (9:28)
AL-MÂNI' The Preventer of harm
AD-DÂRR The Afflicter
AN-NÂFI' The Benefiter
AN-NÛR The Light (24:35)
AL-HÂDÎ The Guide (25:31)
AL-BADÎ' The Originator (2:117) (6:101)
AL-BÂQÎ The Everlasting (55:27)
AL-WÂRITH The Ultimate Inheritor (15:23)
AR-RASHÎD The Guide
AS-SABÛR The Patient OneQuote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 16 2012,13:18) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,18:57) Hi BD, Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Name/Transliteration Translation
Some selected relevant
verses from the Qur'anALLÂH Allâh (1:1)(3:18)(5:109)(6:124)(7:180)(8:40)
(16:91)(20:8)(57:5)(65:3)(74:56)(85:20)
AR-RAHMÂN The Most Compassionate,
The Beneficent
The Gracious (1:3)(17:110)(19:58)(21:112)
(27:30)(36:52)(50:33)(55:1)(59:22) (78:38)
AR-RAHÎM The Merciful (2:163)(3:31)(4:100)(5:3)(5:98)
(11:41)(12:53)(12:64)(26:9)(30:5)(36:58)
AL-MALIK The King (20:114)(23:116)(59:23)(62:1)(114:2)
AL-QUDDÛS The Most Holy (59:23) (62:1)
AS-SALÂM The All-Peaceful, The Bestower of peace (59:23)
AL-MU'MIN The Granter of security (59:23)
AL-MUHAYMIN The Protector (59:23)
AL-'AZÎZ The Mighty (3:6) (4:158) (9:40) (9:71) (48:7)
(59:23) (61:1)
AL-JABBÂR The Compeller (59:23)
AL-MUTAKABBIR Supreme in Greatness,
The Majestic (59:23)
AL-KHÂLIQ The Creator (6:102) (13:16) (39:62)(40:62)(59:24)
AL-BÂRI' The Maker (59:24)
AL-MUSAWWIR The Bestower of form,
The Shaper (59:24)
AL-GAFFÂR The Forgiver (20:82)(38:66)(39:5)(40:42)(71:10)
AL-QAHHÂR The Subduer (13:16)(14:48)(38:65)(39:4)(40:16)
AL-WAHHÂB The Bestower (3:8)(38:9)(38:35)
AR-RAZZÂQ The Provider (51:58)
AL-FATTÂH The Opener, The Judge (34:26)
AL-'ALÎM The All-Knowing (2:158)(3:92)(4:35)(24:41)(33:40)
(35:38)(57:6)
AL-QÂBID The Withholder (2:245)
AL-BÂSIT The Expander (2:245)
AL-KHÂFID The Abaser
AR-RÂFI' The Exalter
AL-MU'IZZ The Bestower of honour (3:26)
AL-MUDHILL The Humiliator (3:26)
AS-SAMÎ' The All-Hearing (2:127) (2:137) (2:256) (8:17) (49:1)
AL-BASÎR The All-Seeing (4:58) (17:1) (42:11) (42:27) (57:4) (67:19)
AL-HAKAM The Judge (22:69)
AL-'ADL The Just, The Equitable
AL-LATÎF The Gentle, The Knower of subtleties (6:103) (22:63) (31:16) (33:34) (67:14)
AL-KHABÎR The All-Aware (6:18) (17:30) (49:13) (59:18) (63:11)
AL-HALÎM The Forbearing (2:225) (2:235) (17:44) (22:59) (35:41)
AL-'AZÎM The Incomparably Great (2:255) (42:4) (56:96)
AL-GAFÛR The Forgiving (2:173) (8:69) (16:110) (41:32) (60:7)
ASH-SHAKÛR The Appreciative (35:30) (35:34) (42:23) (64:17)
AL-'ALIYY The Most High (2:255) (4:34) (31:30) (42:4) (42:51)
AL-KABÎR The Most Great (13:9) (22:62) (31:30) (34:23) (40:12)
AL-HAFÎZ The Preserver (11:57) (34:21) (42:6)
AL-MUGHÎTH The Sustainer
AL-HASÎB The Reckoner (4:6) (4:86) (33:39)
AL-JALÎL The Majestic, The Revered, The Sublime
AL-KARÎM The Generous (27:40) (82:6)
AR-RAQÎB The Watchful (4:1) (5:117)
AL-MUJÎB The Responsive (11:61)
AL-WÂSI' The All-Encompassing, The All-Embracing (2:115) (2:261) (2:268) (3:73) (5:54)
AL-HAKÎM The Wise (2:129) (2:260) (31:27) (46:2) (57:1)
(66:2)
AL-WADÛD The Loving One (11:90) (85:14)
AL-MAJÎD The Most Glorious (11:73)
AL-BÂ'ITH The Resurrector (22:7)page 35
ASH-SHAHÎD The Witness (4:79)(4:166)(22:17)(41:53)(48:28)
AL-HAQQ The Truth (6:62)(22:6)(23:116)(31:30)
AL-WAKÎL The Ultimate Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs (3:173) (4:171) (28:28) (33:3) (73:9)
AL-QAWIYY The Most Strong (22:40)(22:74)(42:19)(57:25)(58:21)
AL-MATÎN The Firm One, The Authoritative (51:58)
AL-WALIYY The Protector (3:68) (4:45) (7:196) (42:28) (45:19)
AL-HAMÎD The All-Praised, The Praiseworthy (14:1) (14:8) (31:12) (31:26) (41:42)
AL-MUHSÎ The Reckoner
AL-MUBDI' The Originator (10:4)(10:34)(27:64)(29:19)(85:13)
AL-MU'ÎD The Restorer to life (10:4)(10:34)(27:64)(29:19)(85:13)
AL-MUHYÎ The Giver of life (3:156) (7:158) (15:23)(30:50)(57:2)
AL-MUMÎT The Causer of death (3:156) (7:158) (15:23) (57:2)
AL-HAYY The Ever-Living (2:255)(3:2)(20:111)(25:58)(40:65)
AL-QAYYÛM The Self-Existing by Whom all subsist (2:255) (3:2) (20:111)
AL-WÂJID The Self-Sufficient, The All-Perceiving
AL-MÂJID The Glorified
AL-WÂHID The One (2:163) (5:73) (9:31) (18:110) (37:4)
AS-SAMAD The Eternally Besought (112:2)
AL-QÂDIR The Omnipotent, The Able (6:65) (36:81) (46:33) (75:40) (86:8)
AL-MUQTADIR The Powerful (18:45) (54:42) (54:55)
AL-MUQADDIM The Expediter
AL- MU'AKHKHIR The Delayer (71:4)
AL-AWWAL The First (57:3)
AL-ÂKHIR The Last (57:3)
AZ-ZÂHIR The Manifest (57:3)
AL-BÂTIN The Hidden (57:3)
AL-WÂLÎ The Governor, The Protector
AL-MUTA'ÂLÎ The Most Exalted (13:9)
AL-BARR The Benign, The Source of All-Goodness (52:28)
AT-TAWWÂB The Granter and Accepter of repentence (2:37) (2:128) (4:64) (49:12) (110:3)
AL- MUNTAQIM The Lord of Retribution, The Avenger (32:22) (43:41) (44:16)
AL-'AFUWW The Pardoner (4:99) (4:149) (22:60)
AR-RA'ÛF The Most Kind, The Clement (3:30) (9:117) (57:9) (59:10)
MÂLIK-UL-MULK Owner of the Kingdom (3:26)
DHUL JALÂL WAL IKRÂM Possessor of Majesty and Honour (55:27) (55:78)
AL-MUQSIT The Just, The Equitable (3:18)
AL-JÂME' The Gatherer (3:9)
AL-GHANIYY The All-Sufficient (2:263) (3:97) (39:7) (47:38) (57:24)
AL-MUGHNÎ The Enricher (9:28)
AL-MÂNI' The Preventer of harm
AD-DÂRR The Afflicter
AN-NÂFI' The Benefiter
AN-NÛR The Light (24:35)
AL-HÂDÎ The Guide (25:31)
AL-BADÎ' The Originator (2:117) (6:101)
AL-BÂQÎ The Everlasting (55:27)
AL-WÂRITH The Ultimate Inheritor (15:23)
AR-RASHÎD The Guide
AS-SABÛR The Patient One
Those were the 99 namesQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,18:57) Hi BD, Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Would that be a “YES” then?Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 16 2012,13:08) I bet you don't play chess do you ED
Hi BD,I do play chess.
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2012,19:56) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,18:57) Hi BD, Is it not true that one of the 99 names of allah is: 'allah the deceiver'; yes or no?
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Would that be a “YES” then?
Do you see it in the 99 names I gave you?Hi BD,
Your duty as a muislim is to protect the deceptions of islam.
My duty as a believer in YHVH is to expose the deceptions of islam.“Khayrul-Makereen” which translated correctly
means “Allah is the greatest of all deceivers.” (Link)
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which YHVH God had made.” (Gen 3:1)B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,06:47) Hi BD, Your duty as a muislim is to protect the deceptions of islam.
My duty as a believer in YHVH is to expose the deceptions of islam.“Khayrul-Makereen” which translated correctly
means “Allah is the greatest of all deceivers.” (Link)
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which YHVH God had made.” (Gen 3:1)B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Makr Has two meanings:
1. Plotting or planning with evil intent.
2. Planning for a good purpose:
“Wa Makaru wa Makara Allah wa'llahu Khairul Makereen” Surah Aali 'Imran 3/54. “They planned and Allah planned and Allah is the best of planners”.
Makaru = they plotted. Makara = He planned.
Makkar = plotter.
Makereen= plotters.ED stop going to sources of ignorance the page you got your info from is so ignorant but just to show you how their logic works it only validates my point about the usage of the phrase “Son of God” This is what I wrote to the authors of that silly page:
So when we say Jesus is the Son of God it should not have any more meaning than when the Bible calls, Adam, David, Solomon and angels the son of God. You fell on your own logic sword
Look at what you wrote:
If words are allowed to radically change the basic character by the fact that they are associated with Allah then how could one ever have any revelation about Allah in human language? Before such a “revelation” could be understood it would be necessary that mankind would be given a new set of meanings for words when applied to Allah, and perhaps a new set of grammatical rules as well. Can one really call a book a “revelation” if the meanings of the words used in that book have no relation to their previously understood meanings? How is it that one would even know that a word applied to Allah has a radically different type of meaning that it has when applied to man? Could not such a bold assumption if not based in revelation, be considered an act of unbelief, an attempt to reject what Allah has revealed about himself? I know of no record of Muhammad telling us any secret new meanings of words. If one believes that these meanings were revealed after Muhammad then they are in effect saying that they believe in prophets after Muhammad with the authority to change the meanings of words in the Quran.
See my point referring to Jesus every Christian has decided to nullify every instance in the bible where it calls anyone else the son of God and then gave it special meaning referring to Jesus. Then they play all sorts of games with capitalization although the language it was written in doesn't have capitalization it's silly and it's Ignorant
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 17 2012,11:24) Look at what you wrote: If words are allowed to radically change the basic character by the fact that they are associated with Allah then how could one ever have any revelation about Allah in human language? Before such a “revelation” could be understood it would be necessary that mankind would be given a new set of meanings for words when applied to Allah, and perhaps a new set of grammatical rules as well. Can one really call a book a “revelation” if the meanings of the words used in that book have no relation to their previously understood meanings? How is it that one would even know that a word applied to Allah has a radically different type of meaning that it has when applied to man? Could not such a bold assumption if not based in revelation, be considered an act of unbelief, an attempt to reject what Allah has revealed about himself? I know of no record of Muhammad telling us any secret new meanings of words. If one believes that these meanings were revealed after Muhammad then they are in effect saying that they believe in prophets after Muhammad with the authority to change the meanings of words in the Quran.
See my point referring to Jesus every Christian has decided to nullify every instance in the bible where it calls anyone else the son of God and then gave it special meaning referring to Jesus. Then they play all sorts of games with capitalization although the language it was written in doesn't have capitalization it's silly and it's Ignorant
Speaking of ignorance, “I” NEVER WROTE THAT!Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,12:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 17 2012,11:24) Look at what you wrote: If words are allowed to radically change the basic character by the fact that they are associated with Allah then how could one ever have any revelation about Allah in human language? Before such a “revelation” could be understood it would be necessary that mankind would be given a new set of meanings for words when applied to Allah, and perhaps a new set of grammatical rules as well. Can one really call a book a “revelation” if the meanings of the words used in that book have no relation to their previously understood meanings? How is it that one would even know that a word applied to Allah has a radically different type of meaning that it has when applied to man? Could not such a bold assumption if not based in revelation, be considered an act of unbelief, an attempt to reject what Allah has revealed about himself? I know of no record of Muhammad telling us any secret new meanings of words. If one believes that these meanings were revealed after Muhammad then they are in effect saying that they believe in prophets after Muhammad with the authority to change the meanings of words in the Quran.
See my point referring to Jesus every Christian has decided to nullify every instance in the bible where it calls anyone else the son of God and then gave it special meaning referring to Jesus. Then they play all sorts of games with capitalization although the language it was written in doesn't have capitalization it's silly and it's Ignorant
Speaking of ignorance, “I” NEVER WROTE THAT!
I told you that you were ignorant and refused to read did you completely skip thisQuote This is what I wrote to the authors of that silly page: Hi BD,
What your views are on insignificant chatter is of no concern to me.
Sorry if the truth hurts, but your views on the book of fraud
I only see as a distraction away from the truth of YHVH.My only concern is knowing how you interpret the bible,
so I can help you to understand what YHVH is saying.Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)
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