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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,13:24) Hi BD,
Yes put your glasses on the light is from the Father of lights.
God was in him reconciling the world to Himself and can also be in us.
If you are reconciled why do you still need a mediator? Perhaps you are not reconciled.Hi BD,
There is one mediator between God and men and you need to get back in touch with him.
You will need an advocate too having been washed then rolling in the mud.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,13:35) Hi BD,
There is one mediator between God and men and you need to get back in touch with him.
You will need an advocate too having been washed then rolling in the mud.
So you cannot go before God without your mediator, right?But what about those who Jesus says:
John 16:25-27 (King James Version)
25These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
26At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
27For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
So Jesus says he will not mediate for those who BELIEVE that the FATHER LOVES THEM HIMSELF
Believe whatever you can Nick but don't get in others way because they believe with full belief.
Hi BD,
We have been reconciled with God and now the advocate supports us when we stumble.Demons really believe
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,14:07) Hi BD,
We have been reconciled with God and now the advocate supports us when we stumble.Demons really believe
The Father loves you HIMSELF but yes if you stray far away from God and are embarrassed to approach HIM you have an advocate it would be better not to stray so far as not to know God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,14:21) Hi BD,
You need the mediator to bring you back to God.
But if you walk away?
I am with God and so are you but you won't notice God.You just stand there not accepting His full acceptance preferring instead to do what Jesus says is not what he wants.
Bodhitharta wrote:
Quote how is it he comes up spotless and without blame and yet you remain under the cover of guilt?
Previously, Kerwin answered:
Quote Because you are not walking in his spirit and may not even have it.
It is my understanding that an individual still under the cover of guilt is still sinning and thus not walking according to the spirit of Jesus the Anointed One. One possible reason is that they do not have the spirit in the first place. The only other possible reason is that they are just not living by the spirit they do have.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,05:16) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 17 2009,07:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) Hi KW,
God is pleased with guilty children?
You must be joking.When we sin He wants us to acknowledge it and learn and move on.
You seem to want a schoolmaster not a loving Father
That is what James states:James 4:8-10(KJV) reads:
Quote Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
Hi KW,
Do these descriptions fit you?
Then deal with them and move on.
I am dealing with how a student of Jesus the Anointed one handles sin. Addressing sin is a very crucial part of following Jesus for the disobedient are not following him.bodhitharta wrote:
Quote How is it you claim who is a false prophet?
I don't believe I named who was a false prophet or true one in that post.
We are taught to test the spirit to determine what comes from God and what does not. I use reason based on the nature of God as testified in scripture to test the spirit of a teaching. I also beg God to lead me true as you must have his leadership to discover the truth.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 17 2009,16:53) bodhitharta wrote: Quote How is it you claim who is a false prophet?
I don't believe I named who was a false prophet or true one in that post.
We are taught to test the spirit to determine what comes from God and what does not. I use reason based on the nature of God as testified in scripture to test the spirit of a teaching. I also beg God to lead me true as you must have his leadership to discover the truth.
I also beg God to lead you right and not to your own whim.How is it that Jesus forgave sins without the shedding of blood and also gave his disciples to forgive sins without the shedding of blood?
And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Matthew 9:1-3(No blood)
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Luke 7:46-48(No Blood) How were her sins forgiven and why? “For she loved much”
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hosea 6:5-7But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Matthew 9:12-14 (no blood)But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Matthew 12:6-8Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2009,05:19) Hi BD,
He was given all authority.
He gave that authority to others.
I agree with you, he forgave sins before the cross without shedding any blood in-factJohn the baptist was baptizing for the REMISSION of sins without any blood.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,05:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2009,05:19) Hi BD,
He was given all authority.
He gave that authority to others.
I agree with you, he forgave sins before the cross without shedding any blood in-factJohn the baptist was baptizing for the REMISSION of sins without any blood.
Are you trying to understand why Jesus had to die on the cross?God tells us that the wages of sin is death and that the one who does not sin will live forever and yet Jesus died.
In putting Jesus to death this world was condemned for being unjust.
John 16:6-11(NIV) reads:
Quote Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2009,10:42) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,05:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2009,05:19) Hi BD,
He was given all authority.
He gave that authority to others.
I agree with you, he forgave sins before the cross without shedding any blood in-factJohn the baptist was baptizing for the REMISSION of sins without any blood.
Are you trying to understand why Jesus had to die on the cross?God tells us that the wages of sin is death and that the one who does not sin will live forever and yet Jesus died.
In putting Jesus to death this world was condemned for being unjust.
John 16:6-11(NIV) reads:
Quote Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
So putting Jesus to death condemned the world even though Jesus said he did not come to condemn the world and he forgave those who put him to death?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2009,10:46) Hi BD,
Why do you question the ways of God?
Who are you?
Did John BAPTIZE for the remission of sins?Psalm 30:8-9 (Young's Literal Translation)
8Unto Thee, O Jehovah, I call, And unto Jehovah I make supplication.
9`What gain [is] in my blood? In my going down unto corruption? Doth dust thank Thee? doth it declare Thy truth?
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