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hi Nick
so the ones who clame today that they have the Holy spirit from whom have they recieved it
?????Hi T,
Why do you believe everyone who claims to have the Holy Spirit?
We are told to test the spirits as most are following deceptive religious spirits.
The Father can bless any one of His children reborn of water who seek the Spirit.[Lk11]Gene,
You have told us we should not believe the bible but rely on spiritual guidance.
Why should you think you have credibility when you quote the bible?
When did you begin to prefer spiritual guides to truth?Hi T,
Certainly the words spoken by Jesus in Jn3, Peter in Acts 2 and Paul in Rom 6 have never been popular.
But truth is like that and if you want to SEE the kingdom you should obey.
Read Acts and note the behavior of the apostles to faith.Hi T,
Nothing has changed from when Jesus dispatched his anointed brothers in Acts.
Men have laboured in their own strength and foolish ideas to improve on the message.
They offer all sorts of other ways to enter the kingdom than the baptism into the door of Jesus.But Jesus calls such men thieves and robbers.
If you have heard the message and cannot receive it does that make you stony ground?Many will say LORD LORD to the judge and he will not know them.
hi nick
is this not what Jesus as said went he was with his apostels ,
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.ouy heart is the one who leans to one way or the other and this is good for everyone,so we ourselfs have to account for what we do.
101 Contradictions in the Bible:
1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
* God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
* Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
* Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
* One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
* Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
* Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
* Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
* Three (I Chronicles 21:12)5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
* Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
* Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
* Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
* Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
* Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
* Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
* Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
* Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
* After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
* Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
* Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
* Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
* One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
* Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
* Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
* Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
* Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 – 16:8)
* Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
* Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
* Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
* Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
* Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
* Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
* Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)17. How many were the children of Zattu?
* Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
* Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)18. How many were the children of Azgad?
* One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
* Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)19. How many were the children of Adin?
* Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
* Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)20. How many were the children of Hashum?
* Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
* Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
* Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
* One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
* 29,818 (Ezra)
* 31,089 (Nehemiah)23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
* Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
* Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?
* Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
* Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
* Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
* No (Joshua 15:63)26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
* Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
* Hell (Luke 3:23)27. Jesus descended from which son of David?
* Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
* Nathan(Luke3:31)28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?
* Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
* Neri (Luke 3:27)29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
* Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
* Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.30. Who was the father of Uzziah?
* Joram (Matthew 1:8)
* Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?
* Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
* Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?
* Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
* But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)33. Who was the father of Shelah?
* Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
* Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
* Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
* No (John 1:19-21)35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?
* Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
* No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
* One – a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
* Two – a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
* By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
* His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
* By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
* On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?
* Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
* No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death.40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
* Yes (Mark 6:8)
* No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
* Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
* No (Luke 9:9)42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
* Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
* No (John 1:32,33)43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
* Yes (John 1:32, 33)
* No (Matthew 11:2)44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
* If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
* Even if I do b
ear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14)45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
* Yes (Matthew 21:12)
* No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?
* Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
* No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?
* Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
* No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial?
* The #### will not crow till you have denied me three times (John 13:38)
* Before the #### crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark 14:30) . When the #### crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?
* Yes (John 19:17)
* No (Matthew 27:31-32)50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
* Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
* No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?
* No. I have said nothing secretly (John 18:20)
* Yes. He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him Why do you speak to them in parables? He said, To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
* On the cross (Mark 15:23)
* In Pilates court (John 19:14)53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?
* Yes (Mark 15:32)
* No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
* Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, Today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:43)
* No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, I have not yet ascended to the Father (John 20:17)55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?
* Yes (Acts9:7)
* No (Acts22:9)56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?
* Yes (Acts 26:14)
* No (Acts 9:7)57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Pauls duties were to be?
* Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
* No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)58. When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?
* Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
* Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
* Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
* Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
* He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
* He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)61. How did Judas die?
* After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
* After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)62. Why is the field called Field of Blood?
* Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
* Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)63. Who is a ransom for whom?
* The Son of Man came…to give his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45). Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all… (I Timothy 2:5-6)
* The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright (Proverbs 21:18)64. Is the law of Moses useful?
* Yes. All scripture is… profitable… (2 Timothy 3:16)
* No. . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness… (Hebrews 7:18)65. What was the exact wording on the cross?
* This is Jesus the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37)
* The King of the Jews (Mark 15:26)
* This is the King of the Jews (Luke 23:38)
* Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (John 19:19)66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
* Yes (Matthew 14:5)
* No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
* Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
* Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Lukes gospel (Luke 6:12-16)68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collectors office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?
* Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
* Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
* After (Mark 14:12-17)
* Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilates judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
* Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
* No. (John 12:27)71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray?
* Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
* One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?
* Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
* Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
* Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
* Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39)74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what language did he speak?
* Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46)
* Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34)75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
* Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46)
* “It is finished” (John 19:30)76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
* Yes (Matthew 8:5)
* No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his
friends (Luke 7:3,6)77.
* Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
* Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)78.
* God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
* Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
* No (John 3:13)
* Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11)80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?
* Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
* Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?
* Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
* No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16: 1)82. When did the women buy the spices?
* After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1)
* Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then, on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
* Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1)
* When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
* To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
* To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
* For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?
* They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb (John 20:1)
* As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?
* Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men … in dazzling apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel – the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
* No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2)87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?
* Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
* On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me… (John 20:11 to 17)88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples?
* Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me (Matthew 2 8: 10)
* Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17)89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?
* Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
* After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise … (Acts 1:4)90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
* To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28)
* To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
* The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt (Genesis 37:28)
* The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36)
* Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt (Genesis 45:4)92. Does God change his mind?
* Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: I repent that I have made Saul King… (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
* No. God will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent (I Samuel 15:29)Yes. And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:
i. The Lord was sorry that he made man (Genesis 6:6)
I am sorry that I have made them (Genesis 6:7)
ii. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people (Exodus 32:14).
iii. (Lots of other such references).
93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
* Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
* The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.94. Who killed Goliath?
* David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
* Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)95. Who killed Saul?
* Saul took his own sword and fell upon it…. Thus Saul died… (I Samuel 31:4-6)
* An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)96. Does every man sin?
* Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
* No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)97. Who will bear whose burden?
* Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2)
* Each man will have to bear his own load (Galatians 6:5)98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
* Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
* Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
* After his baptism, the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days … (Mark 1:12-13)
* Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee – two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)100. Was baby Jesus life threatened in Jerusalem?
* Yes,
so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
* No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
* They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God (Matthew 14:33)
* They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)
[/U]hi all
this will always be there i mean people who will do whatever they can to smare the truth,
and so this is were ,IT IS OF OUR MAKING IF WE LOVE TRUTH AND LOVE GOD AND HIS SON ,WE WILL BEABLE TO MAKE IT TO SEE THE TRUTH THAT GOD TROUGH CHRIST HAS FOR THE RIGHTEOUS,
THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH WILL COME TO YOUR SPIRIT OF THE SAME TRUTH,THIS IS WHAT CHRIST WAS SAYING ,WEN HE SAYS THAT HIS FATHER AND HIM WILL COM TO YOU,AND STAY WITHIN THAT SPIRIT.
1Co 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
1Co 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.
1Co 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftinessPierre
Good & Evil / Truth & illusion
The current word of God or New Testament Bible gives two choices of what to believe about God. In Malachi 4:5 it is actually called the great and terrible day of the Lord. It has great news for those who are looking for the Gospel (good news) of God and it has terrible news of wrath and destruction for those who believe in a tyrantical, wrothful and vengeful God. If a person sits under a preacher that is
preaching sin and darkness and wrath from God it is your choice to believe or reject. Believers live the Gospel of God, given by Jesus. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within each person. Luke17:21 God was, God is, God is being and God will be. Jesus described his father as Love. If we believe God is everywhere then we must face the fact that there is no opposite to God. There is no outside of God. If there is no outside of God and there is no sin or evil in God then, guess what, there is no sin or evil! You can’t be
separated (truthfully or actually) from God. When the bible talks about man falling away from God it was man believing God was leaving him. God didn’t move. Only in mans mind could there be a separation from God. Where would he go, he’s already there! God is ONE spirit. Jesus said we are all ONE! John17:21. So, all that is or ever will be came from ONE! God created a physical body from the dust of the earth and called it man. Then God took of his Soul and placed it within man to embody the Spirit. Then God breathed his essence, the
spirit of life, into the vessel and man became a living soul(of God). Then God gave man a piece of his mind! The first God/Man created, Adam. Adam walked with God, in God and God taught man from within himself. The voice of thoughts in the mind of Adam, from God, teaching about life and preparing man to take charge of the earth. God gave the earth to man along with free will to learn and move and do whatever he chose. Adam was told he could partake of any of the information presented but that if he believed in evil he would begin
to die. Evil was deceptive information that portrayed itself as Gods truth. It was a lie! There is no opposite to God/Love/Good etc. Yet man had the freedom to choose as his own truth any information he wanted to believe. Whatever a man chooses to believe from multiple information avenues is what he becomes. If the information seems to him to be true then to him it is true. God/truth doesn’t change only mans opinion of it. If man believes something not of God/truth it is actually his illusion of Truth. Now man faced a world of information of
good from God or lies that man himself created of bad. Truth or illusion of truth. There was only good in the beginning. By accepting evil as a truth for himself, man had split God in his own mind into good and bad. Now all his choices to accept or reject have been distorted into good or bad. Evil then was a creation of man that began to lead man to death and destruction or away from God/life. There is still only ONE God in Truth. Whatever aspects or traits of God are Truth are still Truth and can never change. That’s why I say evil is an
illusion. Over time man has named different things as evil. Yet all that is in existence came from God who is all in all, that is or was! There is no evil in God, God is all there is, God has no evil, God can’t create evil. The belief in evil created an illusion in mans mind that he was separated from God. Man became un-whole in his mind! Through his mind/beliefs in evil man became tainted, dirty, with all aspects of the evil he was creating. The evil thoughts being created were being energized by fear that they could be truth! Man immediately hid himself
from God. Believing in evil creates death. Evil can be believed in the mind of a human being and be real to that individual but not be of the Truth of God. Evil is not of God. Evil is not in the Truth. Evil is an illusion of truth, created by man believing incorrectly. An error of belief. This was and is sin, an error of belief that anything could truly separate you from God. Evil starts in the mind of a son of God and is sown into the earth realm. We are reaping what we have all sown. Evil thoughts come before evil deeds. The mind creates the action. Evil or
error or sin or anything against God creates judgment as to good and bad or right and wrong. So, fear of wrong motivates mans mind to think up more possible wrongs because man does not feel the same peace with God he had at the beginning. There is no intrinsic evil. Choosing things to believe as evil has created evil in the earth and must be reversed. Evil must be put away from our minds for ever. Evil should not be recognized as an existing choice to make. Its an illusion of Truth. There is no evil in God. God is everywhere. There is no
intrinsic evil. If you don’t accept evil as truth and do accept God/ONE/GOOD again, then you have passed from death(separation from God) back to life. Adam chose to believe evil which lead us all to pass from life to death. We all have the right of return to ONE, we just didn’t know it. Religion is the largest producer of evil of all. They preach sin, hellfire, and damnation predominately. Sin is thinking wrong first. If one believes he is washed clean through Jesus who took away our sin then there is no evil to sow. Jesus came to reveal the
whole truth about God. The old testament is the old will that has ceased to be effectual. The New Testament was established through Jesus, the Truth of God. Now that we know the Truth, if we return to believing in ONE God, Good only (in our beliefs) then we have passed from death to life. Evil is passed away. Today sin is gone through the Truth, Jesus Christ and there is no more condemnation/judgment from God. We are mentally coming back to Man/God, one together, now rising back up through awareness,
knowledge and understanding. This is the position we have always been in with God but through error teaching believed we were separated. We are remembering who we are and who we always have been. Jesus gave his life to tell us the Truth. He did away with sin in the flesh for those who would believe. He gave himself as final sacrifice for sin to all who wouldn’t believe any other way. There is nothing more he could do to eradicate sin. We must now believe, we have no sin!! Sin is evil, evil is sin, they are both lies of death. To
have a sin consciousness is separation from God or death. You have been cleansed of sin thinking through Jesus’ truth. God has blessed you. TK
tk
good story,but is it scriptural??
OT no more in effect
?Christ sacrifice remove sin and that it ??if you sin you are forgiven anyway ??
there is no evil???
is all that scriptural ??
Pierre:cool:
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2010,22:10) tk good story,but is it scriptural??
OT no more in effect
?Christ sacrifice remove sin and that it ??if you sin you are forgiven anyway ??
there is no evil???
is all that scriptural ??
Pierre:cool:
Please show me where it does not align with what Jesus says.Did Jesus come to a dark world that was in sin?
Jesus came to seek and to save those lost in sin/error!
The Jewish Religion/Temple of brick and mortar/ritualistic works to please God, was the religious world order of that time. They did not know God. They had set up many rules, rituals, feast days, fast days,
tithing, laws, sacrifices etc., to find or pacify God. That was all man made religion. They were in sin or error. They could not see the truth. They were like a drunk person trying to find his way to God. They were dead in their tresspasses and sin/error of thinking!
Jesus came to show mankind the true way to God/life. Jesus gave man the spirit/words of God, the truth, so that any or all that would believe would experience abundant life on earth.
The words of Jesus are from God/spirit all words are spirit. If we eat, partake of, accept, abide in those words of spirit/truth we find God. That is the infilling of the whole/holy spirit in man.
The words of God through Jesus are the spiritual kingdom of God, come to earthen vessels, mankind to enlighten man to the truth. God/Spirit words/Jesus word of God/the truth of God which is the Kingdom of God living within mankind.
If one believes this truth, he lives his life apart from sin and death. If one rejects who he is by dis-believing he is lost in sin and death. Do you believe in sin and death?
At that time was the great covenant change prophesied for thousands of years to come. Jesus' teaching saved us from sin and death.
That was the end of the old world order.
There was an old will of God and there is a new will of God. Why would anyone search for the truth in the old will. It is
in-effectual and completely fulfilled by Jesus.
If one believes in evil, he will commit evil. If one believes in sin, he will create sin in his life.If you believe Jesus, that he took away the sin of the world and destroyed evil then you are purified and perfect as God has made you.
There was in the beginning only good/God! Man chose to accept death/evil. Why now man still chooses to accept evil and thereby create his own evil I can't say.
God has made us perfect. If one believes the truth and walks in that truth, there will be no evil for that person. Jesus walked amongst evil, it did not touch him. Jesus laid down his life, nobody took it from him!!! Bless you, TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Oct. 26 2010,07:42) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2010,22:10) tk good story,but is it scriptural??
OT no more in effect
?Christ sacrifice remove sin and that it ??if you sin you are forgiven anyway ??
there is no evil???
is all that scriptural ??
Pierre:cool:
Please show me where it does not align with what Jesus says.Did Jesus come to a dark world that was in sin?
Jesus came to seek and to save those lost in sin/error!
The Jewish Religion/Temple of brick and mortar/ritualistic works to please God, was the religious world order of that time. They did not know God. They had set up many rules, rituals, feast days, fast days,
tithing, laws, sacrifices etc., to find or pacify God. That was all man made religion. They were in sin or error. They could not see the truth. They were like a drunk person trying to find his way to God. They were dead in their tresspasses and sin/error of thinking!
Jesus came to show mankind the true way to God/life. Jesus gave man the spirit/words of God, the truth, so that any or all that would believe would experience abundant life on earth.
The words of Jesus are from God/spirit all words are spirit. If we eat, partake of, accept, abide in those words of spirit/truth we find God. That is the infilling of the whole/holy spirit in man.
The words of God through Jesus are the spiritual kingdom of God, come to earthen vessels, mankind to enlighten man to the truth. God/Spirit words/Jesus word of God/the truth of God which is the Kingdom of God living within mankind.
If one believes this truth, he lives his life apart from sin and death. If one rejects who he is by dis-believing he is lost in sin and death. Do you believe in sin and death?
At that time was the great covenant change prophesied for thousands of years to come. Jesus' teaching saved us from sin and death.
That was the end of the old world order.
There was an old will of God and there is a new will of God. Why would anyone search for the truth in the old will. It is
in-effectual and completely fulfilled by Jesus.
If one believes in evil, he will commit evil. If one believes in sin, he will create sin in his life.If you believe Jesus, that he took away the sin of the world and destroyed evil then you are purified and perfect as God has made you.
There was in the beginning only good/God! Man chose to accept death/evil. Why now man still chooses to accept evil and thereby create his own evil I can't say.
God has made us perfect. If one believes the truth and walks in that truth, there will be no evil for that person. Jesus walked amongst evil, it did not touch him. Jesus laid down his life, nobody took it from him!!! Bless you, TK
hi tkcould you show the scriptures quotation beside your statements,
because i can not find them who mach you comments,
exept the very last one.
Pierre
IMPORTANT SCRIPTURES FOR REFERENCE: Feel the truth in your heart. If a scripture feels good in your soul, you have heard correctly the gospel of God. That is why it is called the good news!
The Kingdom of God:
1)Time is fulfilled, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!(Mark1:15)
2)Change your thinking,(repent) the Kingdom is at hand!(Matt.3:2)
3)Just after Johns ministry Jesus began to preach, repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand.(Matt.4:17)Matt.4:23 preaching the Kingdom is the gospel!
4)The Lords prayer, thy Kingdom come, thy will be done.(Matt.6:10)
5)Jesus said if I cast out devils/deceptive thinking/error thinking then the Kingdom of God is come unto you. (Matt.12:28)
6)Time if fulfilled, Kingdom of God is here. (Mk. 1:14&15)!
7) The comforter, the spirit of truth, & Jesus, the words of God, dwelleth with you and shall be in you–(John 14:17)
…the Kingdom of God cometh not with observation:…neither shall they say, Lo here or lo there! For, behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20&21)
…Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished/completed!
(Luke 18:31)
…when you see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. (Luke 21:31&32)
(Luke 22:15-18)…With desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer: For I say unto you I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God….and he took the cup…for I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingcom of God shall come.(Luke 24:43 & 44)…and he took it, and did eat before them and said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me…
….(Mark 1:15)…The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent (turn from the way you are going) ye and believe the gospel. 8) If a man love me (Jesus) he will keep(believe) my words—and my father will love him and we will come unto him and make our abode/house, home, temple, dwelling place IN HIM!(John14:23)
…Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.(John 15:2)9) ….I (Jesus) have chosen you and ordained you….(John15:16)
10) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.(John17:17)
11)..He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation: but is passed from death unto life.(John5:24)
12)…the work of God is to believe (Jesus’ words) whom he sent.(John6:29)
13)…he that believeth (Jesus) hath everlasting life…(John6:47)
14)…he that eateth my flesh (words) and drinketh my blood (spirit), dwelleth in me (Jesus) and I in him…(John6:56)
15)…the words that I speak (Jesus) unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.(John6:63)
16)…there are some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God…(Luke9:27)
17)..the Law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, (yet) every man presseth into it…(Luke 16:16) (each man still tries to work his way to God under the Law!
18)…and from the days of John the baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffered violence, and the violent (Jews) take it by force (works, effort)…for all of the prophets and the law prophesied until John. (Matt.11:12)
19)
THE END OF TIME:
1)…the son of man is not come to destroy mens lives, but to save them…(Luke 9:56) (I guess Jesus is not coming back to fight a great war against mankind…)
2)…in the time of the harvest, I will say unto the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn…(Matt.13:30)
3)…so shall it be in at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just and cast them into the furnace of fire..(Matt.13:49)
4)…
Sin:
1)…who taketh away the sin of the world…(John 1:29)
2)…Master who did sin, this man, or his parents that he be born blind….Jesus said, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents…but that the works of God should be made manifest in him I must work the works of him who sent me…(John 9:3)
3)…by the law is the knowledge of sin…(Rom.3:20)
4)…sin is not imputed where there is no law…(Rom.5:13)
5)…being made free from sin…(Rom.6:18)
6)…Jesus manifested to take away our sin (1John 3:5)
7)…Jesus appeared to put away sin…(Heb.9:26)
8)…We have been made free from sin & death…(Rom. 6:18)
V:22…but now being made free from sin…(Rom. 8:2)
9)…anyone that commiteth(abides/agrees with) sin, is a servant of sin…(John8:34)
10)..Jesus taketh away the sin of the world…(John1:29)
11)..Sin: To miss the mark, to err, offend, offense, trespass!
12)..the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin(1John3:7)
13)..if we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness(1John 1:9)
14)..repentance(change former thinking) for the remission(washing away of Old thinking) of sin should be preached…(Luke24:47)
15)..whosoever is born of God sinneth not….(1John5:18)
16) If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death…(John8:51)Cleansing:
1)…now ye are clean through the word(John 15:3)
2)….he is faithful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness( 1John1:9)
3)…what God hath cleansed call not un-clean (Acts 10:15)&(Acts 11:9)
4)…the blood of his son Jesus Christ
5)…we are cleansed by the washing of the water of the word of God (Eph 5:26)
6)…the blood of Christ cleanseth us from all sin…(1John 1:7)
7)…Jesus saw a man which was blind from birth and his disciples ask him, who did sin, this man or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, “neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents”….(John9:3)
8)
The Law:
1) The Law and the Prophets were until John, since then the Kingdom (Luke 16:16)
2)…The prophets and the law were until John…(Matt. 11:13)
3)…All things written in the Law, the prophets, and the Psalms were fulfilled in Christ (Luke 24:44)
4)…the law won’t pass until all is fulfilled (Matt. 5:18)
5)…time is fulfilled, the Kingdom of God is here….(Mark 1:15)
6)…change thinking, the Kingdom of God is at hand…(Matt. 3:2)
7)…
Judgement:
1) God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: he that believeth not is condemned already…(John3:17&18)
There is no judgement/condemnation for those believers in Christ!
2)Thoughts:
1) Since Jesus’ words are spirit & life (John 6:63) then a person with an “unclean spirit” would be a person that believes they are dirty or unclean. Actually they would believe thoughts/doctrines/spirits of death/unseemliness/impurity/unclean/full of sin!
2)…“I am the door: by me if any man enter in he shall be saved, and go in and out, and find pasture.”(John10:9)…Notice that one had to… enter in shall be saved…not get saved to enter in!tk
Thoughts:
1) Since Jesus’ words are spirit & life (John 6:63) then a person with an “unclean spirit” would be a person that believes they are dirty or unclean. Actually they would believe thoughts/doctrines/spirits of death/unseemliness/impurity/unclean/full of sin!
2)…“I am the door: by me if any man enter in he shall be saved, and go in and out, and find pasture.”(John10:9)…Notice that one had to… enter in shall be saved…not get saved to enter in!
Back to topi have no clue of what you try to get across ??
Pierre
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