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- August 15, 2020 at 1:10 pm#865472kerasParticipant
A joint statement by US President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan – the crown prince of Abu Dhabi – announcing the “Abraham Accord,” a peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, is the first since Jordan signed such an agreement in 1994. What does this deal include, and what does it portend for the future?
Richard Goldberg, a senior adviser at Foundation for Defense of Democracies, said that “the peace agreement paves the way for full normalization of diplomatic, trade and travel relations between Israel and the UAE.”
But this is apparently only the start of a broader relationship between Israel and all the Persian Gulf states.
Ref: Israel Hayom 8/15/2020This, my fellow Christian prophecy studiers; is the start of a short settled time when: people will say: All is peaceful, we have safety at last….. Then destruction will strike them, as sudden as labor pangs and there will be no escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
But IRAN is the ‘wild card’. They remain totally opposed to Jewish Israel.
They will attempt to fire nuke missiles, the chief weapon of their strength….Jeremiah 49:35-38
Then the Lord will send His powerful blast of destruction upon them all. Ezekiel 7:14 On His terrible Day of fiery wrath, that will clear and cleanse the Middle East region, Zephaniah 1:1-18, and affect all the world. Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7August 16, 2020 at 9:30 am#865475ProclaimerParticipantIt could play out like that. If not this time, then could happen in the future like that.
August 16, 2020 at 10:07 am#865476Ed JParticipantKeras,
You need to stop clinging to religious falsehoods.
The peace deal with Israel paves the way to real peace.(1 John 5:9) “If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:”
“We also have a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2 Peter 1:19)Here is the more sure word of prophecy on the 70 weeks of Daniel – you do well to take heed…
August 16, 2020 at 5:14 pm#865477kerasParticipantInteresting; I watches Steve W. just recently, he was good until he said the 70th week was over. I reject this.
Revelation prophesies the second half of that 7 year period, the final 1260 days or 42 months. Much will happen during that time and the Jesus will Return.
‘Real peace’, you say? How likely is that with all the peoples there now; Islam against Judah, Arab against themselves and most unable to feed their populations. Even secular people are saying: Divine intervention is needed.
August 16, 2020 at 6:34 pm#865478Ed JParticipantHi Keras,
Jesus fulfilled the first half of the 70th week.
Jesus was crucified in the midst of the week, and
his Apostles fulfilled the second half of the 70th week.
Steven’s death ends the week, and God turns to the Gentiles.the Church age begins…
“Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages,
world without end. Amen.” (Eph 3:21)____________
God bless
Ed JAugust 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm#865479Ed JParticipantHi Keras,
The same furmula: “a day for a year” is also used to
prove Muhammad of islam is the false prophet of Rev.(1 John 5:9) “If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:” “We also have
a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2 Peter 1:19)You do know how this phrase: “God is greater” translates into Arabic;
don’t you? ‘al-Lah hu Akbar’ That’s what they yell out just before killing.“and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither
his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads” (Rev 20:4)____________
God bless
Ed JAugust 17, 2020 at 7:44 am#865488kerasParticipantThe idea of Jesus being Crucified in the middle of the 70th ‘week’ of Daniel, is error. That happened AFTER the 62 + 7 ‘weeks’ had passed. Daniel 9:26
At the beginning of 70th, the final 7 years, which we know has NOT happened as yet. The six things prophesied in Daniel 9:24 await their fulfilment.
There is no proof of anything happening exactly 3 1/2 years, or 7 years after the Crucifixion. Obviously, we do have a future and we can expect the final 7 years before Jesus Returns to be very interesting!
Daniel doesn’t mention ‘days’. His prophecy in Ch 9, is for 70 X 7 years. As stated in verse 24.
August 29, 2020 at 5:34 am#865694BereanParticipantHi to all,
For more on the 70 weeks of Daniel 9
http://www.cyberspaceministry.org/Lessons/Future/Lesson049/eng-s049.html
God bless
August 29, 2020 at 12:25 pm#865699Ed JParticipantHi Berean,
Then you agree with the video I posted; right?
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God bless
Ed JAugust 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm#865706BereanParticipantHi Edj
I have not listen the vidéo but I Know Steve Wohlberg.He have website :
Whitehorsemedia.com
and I agree with
that he preach globaly
August 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm#865707Ed JParticipantHi Edj
I have not listen the vidéo
Well look at the video, and let me know if you agree with it or not
August 30, 2020 at 5:38 am#865710BereanParticipantEdj
Of course I agree with Steve’s video…
August 31, 2020 at 5:31 pm#865738kerasParticipantWell then, you disagree with what the Bible says.
Daniel 9:26 is quite clear; The 69 ‘weeks’ are completed at the Crucifixion.
We await the 70th week, the final 7 years of this Church ag. All as described in Revelation.
August 31, 2020 at 7:50 pm#865741Ed JParticipantKeras,
The bible states Messiah dies in the midst of the week, not at the beginning of it…
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Dan 9:27)September 1, 2020 at 1:29 am#865742BereanParticipantGood Edj
Daniel 9:27 show us the Jesus’sacrifice in the middle of the week (31 AD)
September 1, 2020 at 1:34 am#865743BereanParticipantNo more need for animal sacrifices to show the sacrifice of Christ …. Christ is our sacrifice, our Passover ….
September 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm#865744kerasParticipantDaniel 9:27 show us the Jesus’sacrifice in the middle of the week (31 AD) Quote; Berean
So; you make Verse 27 contradict v 26? And what happened 3 1/2 years after the Crucifixion to fulfil all that has been decreed?
As for offerings and sacrifices; you fail to be a Berean ! Many prophesies say there will again be offerings and sacrifices in the new Temple. Isaiah 56:1-8
September 1, 2020 at 5:14 pm#865745Ed JParticipantSo; you make Verse 27 contradict v 26? And what happened 3 1/2 years after the Crucifixion to fulfil all that has been decreed?
Hi Keras,
Jesus establishes of the Covenant starting after the 69th week, dies in the middle, and his Apostles finish the week.
Look a little closer at this part:
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people” (Dan 9:24)
After 70 weeks, with Steven’s stoning, the Gospel goes out to the Gentiles. Steven sees Jesus
standing, Paul is commissioned, and Peter gets the sheet vision. The never ending Church age begins.“Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.” (Eph 3:21)
____________
God bless
Ed JSeptember 6, 2020 at 9:42 pm#865825kerasParticipantWhile they are saying: Peace and Safety
This prophecy in 1 Thessalonians 5:3, goes on to tell us: then, sudden destruction will come upon them.
So we need to find out who are those who will say; ‘At last we have peace and safety’, and who the sudden destruction will fall upon.
We can be sure this is about the latter days, as it refers to Jesus prophecy in Matthew 24:8 All these things are the birth pangs of the new age.
We also know that it will happen before Jesus Returns, as Paul tells us in 1Thessalonians 4:16 The Lord will come from heaven with a shout; the voice of an archangel and the trumpet of God.
Whereas at this sudden destruction, before the Return, He will come unexpectedly.
This event is obviously the multi prophesied Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath; the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. The Lord will not be seen on that Day. Amos 1, Psalms 11:4-6
The focal point of God’s Plan on earth, is the holy Land, the place His eyes are fixed upon. Deuteronomy 11:11-12
The situation there has been extremely volatile for many years, but just recently there has been a change, with the United Arab Emirates normalizing relations with the Jewish State of Israel. Also many other Middle East nations are overtly [instead of covertly] in diplomatic and trade discussions with Israel.
This considerable improvement toward stability and peace in the region, has resulted in many comments of optimism and hope for peace and safety at last for Israel and the Islamic peoples. Those diplomats and commentators are the first ‘they’.
EXCEPT for Iran and their proxies. Their Shi-ite version of Islam remains committed to the destruction of the Jewish people and the removal of Israel from the Middle East.
We see many prophesies which say how the Lord will destroy His enemies, Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12 and Revelation 6:12-17, are the most specific. They all say that the Lord will take action when an attack upon Israel is commenced. He will not allow nukes to explode in His holy Land.
Therefore, ‘them’, are the peoples who hate Israel and attempt to wipe them off the map.
It WILL happen, God’s Word prophecies it and Satan is the force behind Islam, plus the leaders of Iran are facing revolution for their mismanagement and incompetence. They must act to retain power by diverting attention from themselves.
September 27, 2020 at 5:15 pm#866428kerasParticipantOn the Day of Destruction
Isaiah 30:25-28 On the Day of slaughter1, when all the military fortresses fall2, water will flow from every mountain and hilltop. The moon will burn as brightly4 as the sun and the sun will give out seven times its normal strength3, like seven days power in one. On that Day the Lord will turn again to the welfare of His people7. He will recompense them for the punishments inflicted upon them.
See: the Lord Himself comes from afar5, His anger blazing and His doom heavy. His mouth is charged with wrath and His tongue is like a devouring fire3. His breath is like a torrent in spate: to judge the nations with His mighty affliction.
He sieves out the proud nations for destruction6 and there will be a halter in the mouths of their people, leading them to ruin.
1/ The Day prophesied over 100 times in the Bible. The Day when people scramble for cover; they will call out ‘The great Day of the wrath of Almighty God and the Lamb has come and who can stand? Revelation 6:12-17, Isaiah 2:12-21
2/ Military personnel, ordnances and weapons will be destroyed on that Day. Hosea 2:18, Amos 5:9, Micah 5:10, Jeremiah 50:27
3/ Seven times ambient temperature: say 16c X 7 = 112c, that is 12c above the boiling point for water. Isaiah 64:2 The only literal explanation of what will cause all the vividly described prophesied effects, is a coronal mass ejection of an unprecedented magnitude.
Psalms 21:9, Psalm 97:2-5, Isaiah 33:12, Hebrews 10:27
4/ The moon will burn brightly red as this CME mass of superheated hydrogen plasma hits it causing a thermite reaction with the aluminium oxide moon dust. Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20
5/ This sudden and unexpected Day is instigated by the Lord, but He is not seen at this time; coming in fire – Isaiah 66:15-16, Psalm 18:7-15.
A Day quite different from the Return, when every eye will see Him; to come later.
6/ This is the judgement of all the nations, especially those who scorn and denigrate His people. Zephaniah 3:8, Habakkuk 3:12, Ezekiel 30:2-5, Isaiah 63:1-6
7/ We are told to pray and trust in the Lord’s protection on that terrible Day, Isaiah 30:15 but we are also warned about what will come and should make preparations for shelter and supplies, then to be aware of what He has planned for His people, now every faithful Christian from every tribe, race, nation and language. Isaiah 26:20-21, Isaiah 49:8-13, Psalms 55:1-8, Jeremiah 29:11-14
The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath will happen as the prophets say:
Moses prophesied: Deut. 32:22 & 41 Fire is set ablaze by the Lord’s anger, it burns to the depths of the hills and devours the earth and its harvest.
Hannah prophesied: 1 Samuel 2:10 Those who oppose the Lord will be terrified when from the heavens He thunders against them and judges all the world.
David prophesied: 2 Samuel 22:8-16 The heavens parted and the earth shook at the Lord’s rebuke of searing heat and devouring fire. Psalm 11:6 The Lord will rain fiery coals and scorching winds upon the heads of the wicked. Psalm 37:20 The godless will perish, like fuel in a furnace they will go up in smoke.
Solomon prophesied: Proverbs 10:25 When the tempest and whirlwind have passed, the wicked are no more.
Asaph prophesied: Psalm 50:3 God is coming, consuming fire goes ahead of Him and around Him a great storm rages. Psalm 83:13-15 The Lord will scatter His enemies like chaff and as a raging fire across the hills.
Ezra prophesied: 2 Esdras 16:14-15 Calamities are let loose and will not turn back before they strike the earth. The fire is alight and will not be put out before it consumes and devastates the earth.
Elihu prophesied: Job 36:32-33 The Lord charges thunderbolts with flames and launches them straight at His target. In His anger, he calls up the storm tempest and thunder heralds his coming.
Isaiah prophesied: Isaiah 9:18-19 Wicked men are set ablaze like a bush fire, they are fuel for the fire and the land is scorched by the fury of the Lord. Isaiah 29:6 Suddenly, in an instant punishment will come from the Lord with thunder, earthquakes, storm tempests and flames of devouring fire. Isaiah 34:1-5 Come, all you people and listen. The Lord is about to vent His wrath against the nations. He will give them up to slaughter and destruction and many will die. On that Day, the sky will be blasted aside, as His sword appears and descends in judgement, onto all who are doomed for death.
Jeremiah prophesied: Jeremiah 5:14 Because Israel defies Me, I shall burn up this people like brushwood. Jeremiah 7:20 My anger and fury will pour out on this place, everything will burn unquenched. Jeremiah 21:14 I shall set fire to your land, it will devour everything around about.
Ezekiel prophesied: Ezekiel 20:47-48 The Lord says: I am about to kindle a fire in the land, it will consume everything flammable. All will know that I have done this. Ezekiel 30:3-5 & 16 I shall set Egypt on fire. On the Day of Reckoning for the nations, Egypt and all the Arab lands will fall by the sword of judgement.
Hosea prophesied: Hosea 8:14 Israel has forgotten her Maker, they are rich and complacent, so I will burn her cities and fire will destroy her strongholds.
Joel prophesied: Joel 1:15 The Day is near, a terrible destruction from the Almighty, the land lies burnt and dry, for fire has consumed the trees and pastures. Joel 2:3 A devouring fire and leaping flames passes by, leaving behind a desolate wasteland, nothing survives its passing.
Amos prophesied: Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5 I shall send fire to consume Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Arabia and Israel.
Obadiah prophesied: Obadiah 1:18 The descendants of Esau will be set alight and burned up with no survivors.
Micah prophesied: Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I will destroy your armed forces and burn your cities.
Habakkuk prophesied: Habakkuk 3:12 Furiously You traversed the earth, in anger You trample the nations.
Zephaniah prophesied: Zephaniah 1:18 The whole Land will be consumed by the fire from the Lord. He will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land. Zephaniah 3:8 I will pour My wrath onto nations and kingdoms. My burning anger will consume the whole earth.
Haggai prophesied: Haggai 2:21-22 I shall shake the heavens and the earth, I will break the power of the heathen, destroying their armed forces.
Zechariah prophesied: Zechariah 9:14 The Lord will appear over His people like a flashing arrow, with thunder and storm winds.
Malachi prophesied: Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all arrogant and evildoers will be as stubble. That Day will set them ablaze, none will survive.
John prophesied: Matthew 3:10-12 The axe is ready to cut down any tree that does not bear good fruit and it will be thrown onto the fire. I baptize with water, but Jesus will baptize with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork is in His hand and he will gather His people, but the ungodly He will burn in the fire.
Jesus prophesied: Matthew 13:30 Tell the reapers to gather the weeds first for burning, then collect the good crop into My storehouse. Matthew 24:27 Like a lightning flash that lights the sky from East to West, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Paul prophesied: Romans 1:18 Divine retribution can be seen at work, falling from heaven onto all the ungodly people who deny the truth. 1 Corinthians 3:13 On the Day of judgement, that Day will dawn in fire and fire will test each person’s worth. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 The Lord Jesus metes out His punishment of blazing fire onto all those who refuse to acknowledge God or the Gospel of Jesus. On that great Day He will reveal His glory to all believers.
Peter prophesied: 2 Peter 3:7 & 10 By God’s Word the present heavens and earth are reserved for burning, kept until the Day of judgement when the godless will be destroyed. Suddenly and unexpectedly the Lord will make the heavens disappear with a great sound and flames will envelope the earth, all in it will be brought to judgement.
The Revelation of Jesus: Revelation 14:18 From the altar came the angel with authority over fire, he said: reap the earth for the harvest is ripe. Revelation 6:17
For the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath has come and who can stand? Malachi 3:2-3
Reference: Revised English Bible. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.
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