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- June 8, 2014 at 2:10 am#387684WakeupParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,12:08) Hi J42,
Have all who have fallen asleep in Christ till now been lost?
Silly question.Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
If one is under the altar,and died for the word of God,
they are saved.wakeup.
June 8, 2014 at 2:15 am#387686NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
So those who have not been MARTYRED are not included?June 8, 2014 at 8:09 am#387743NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
The blindingly obvious thing from Rev 20 .4 is that it does not mean only those physically beheaded are in the first resurrection
Do you agree?June 8, 2014 at 12:07 pm#387786terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,14:09) Hi ED,
The blindingly obvious thing from Rev 20 .4 is that it does not mean only those physically beheaded are in the first resurrection
Do you agree?
Nbut they also ad not the mark of the beast ,very important
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
June 8, 2014 at 10:20 pm#387886WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,13:15) Hi WU,
So those who have not been MARTYRED are not included?
They will be put to the test;then resurrected as saints,
if they have past the test.
If not; there is the second resurrection.
They will be judged by the books.(deeds).wakeup.
June 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm#387887NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??June 8, 2014 at 10:32 pm#387888NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
So only a very elite group mainly from this generation?June 9, 2014 at 12:10 am#387927WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
If you love Jesus; why not?
He lost His life for you.He who saves his life will loose it,and he who loses his life for my sake will find life.
wakeup.
June 9, 2014 at 12:29 am#387936NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
I think you misunderstand againJune 9, 2014 at 12:32 pm#387995WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
Not necessary beheaded;some could die of starvation
or hard labour,or decease.wakeup.
June 9, 2014 at 6:05 pm#388011NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Then fit those in Rev 20.4June 10, 2014 at 3:45 am#388160WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,11:29) Hi WU,
I think you misunderstand again
Some christians have been burned alive,for the word
of God; Some beheaded.
One example is John the baptist.
He his the one that baptised with water in the new testament.
You can read it in a book called the Holy bible.Stephen died for the Lord not by beheading but by stoning.
Died for the Lord just the same.Start to read the bible,not just dreaming about it.
wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 3:58 am#388163NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
We know these things.But in the natural view beheading seems the only option-Rev 20 .4
So how do you fit the others in?June 10, 2014 at 6:09 am#388185WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,14:58) Hi WU,
We know these things.But in the natural view beheading seems the only option-Rev 20 .4
So how do you fit the others in?
Can you tell us how many will be beheaded?
Is it just ten; or ten thousand,or ten million?wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 6:56 am#388194terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,18:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
Not necessary beheaded;some could die of starvation
or hard labour,or decease.wakeup.
Died for the sake of the kingdom of God and his sonJune 10, 2014 at 1:22 pm#388215WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 10 2014,17:56) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,18:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
Not necessary beheaded;some could die of starvation
or hard labour,or decease.wakeup.
Died for the sake of the kingdom of God and his son
Died for the Word of God.
Not necessary all by beheading; some could be burned alive
as they did in the past.
Or hard work and starvation;or decease.He who saves his live will loose it;and he who looses his life
for my sake will find life.If you take the mark to save your life;you will loose it.
If you deny the Lord to save your own life;you will loose it.wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 5:23 pm#388240NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Back to the question
Do all need to be beheaded to be in the first resurrection or is the meaning spiritual?June 10, 2014 at 5:59 pm#388252terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 10 2014,19:22) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2014,17:56) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,18:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
Not necessary beheaded;some could die of starvation
or hard labour,or decease.wakeup.
Died for the sake of the kingdom of God and his son
Died for the Word of God.
Not necessary all by beheading; some could be burned alive
as they did in the past.
Or hard work and starvation;or decease.He who saves his live will loose it;and he who looses his life
for my sake will find life.If you take the mark to save your life;you will loose it.
If you deny the Lord to save your own life;you will loose it.wakeup.
WUPWHAT IS SO DIFFERENT IN WHAT JESUS SAYS IN;Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”June 10, 2014 at 11:36 pm#388304NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Yes few obey the command and come to the light of Jesus by water and the Spirit
As spoken by scripture men prefer darknessJune 11, 2014 at 2:04 am#388327WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 11 2014,04:59) Quote (Wakeup @ June 10 2014,19:22) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2014,17:56) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,18:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:22) Hi WU,
So lose you head or hope for the second chance??
Not necessary beheaded;some could die of starvation
or hard labour,or decease.wakeup.
Died for the sake of the kingdom of God and his son
Died for the Word of God.
Not necessary all by beheading; some could be burned alive
as they did in the past.
Or hard work and starvation;or decease.He who saves his live will loose it;and he who looses his life
for my sake will find life.If you take the mark to save your life;you will loose it.
If you deny the Lord to save your own life;you will loose it.wakeup.
WUPWHAT IS SO DIFFERENT IN WHAT JESUS SAYS IN;Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”
All true christians that worrship God in truth,
will have no need for the tribulation. Put to the test.
There are not many of them.A few are chosen.The ones that worship by lips,will be put to the last test.
They have to make a concrete desision.Take the mark and worship the false prophet, to save your own life; *OR* give your life away ,and worship Jesus.
This is what the test if for.Save your belly and reject Christ,*OR* starve and die for Christ.
wakeup.
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