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  • #232785
    Stu
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    Quote (princess @ Jan. 12 2011,03:43)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,08:27)
    'The man in the mental hospital is a carrot, and he feels sorry that you do not have the senses required to see that indeed he is a carrot, and harbours a feeling of frustration that he appears unable to convince you of this fact.'

    Stuart


    to habor fustration means he really does not believe he is a carrot, just pretending to see how many people he can fool thinking that he is a carrot, and when someone does not believe him, his anger rises due to he is not as smart as he thought he was, and must come up with another way to manipulate the other person to believing he is a carrot.
    by placing his head in the sand (because everyone knows that carrots grow faster when sand is added to the soil) he may just convince the other he is a carrot.

    however he could just convince the other he is a fruit and not know it……..


    No, he really does believe he is a carrot.

    Stuart

    #232786
    princess
    Participant

    then you believe he is a carrot and i, a fruit.

    both edible, colorful, healthy. how can one go wrong.

    take care Stuart, hope all is well.

    #232790
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Jan. 12 2011,15:27)
    then you believe he is a carrot and i, a fruit.

    both edible, colorful, healthy. how can one go wrong.

    take care Stuart, hope all is well.


    He believes he is a carrot, I believe you are not a fruit.

    I could be a watermelon, but I rate the probability as very small.

    Stuart

    #232797
    TimothyVI
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    This is just like reading the latest edition
    of “Square Foot Gardening”

    :D

    Tim

    #232829
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,15:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2011,14:53)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,08:27)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2011,16:53)
    Your arguments is like someone with one of their primary senses missing and then seriously arguing that that sense simply is imaginary and cannot exist. You can't hear? then neither can anyone else. You can't see? Then neither can anyone else.

    You see my point? I actually can feel compassion for your position suddenly at least from in this context because it can be a great anguish not being able to sense what others sense.

    Imagine someone telling you about the great joy of a love relationship and you just happen to be one of those people labled anti-social or a sociopath you could then try to engage in a love relationship but condemned to fell absolutely nothing inside and even if someone told you that you were cold and callous it wouldn't even mean anything hence to you love simply wouldn't exist and there would be no convincing you and the sad part is that you wouldn't able to be convinced because you wouldn't be able to feel or relate to the someone attempting to convince you.


    The man in the mental hospital is a carrot, and he feels sorry that you do not have the senses required to see that indeed he is a carrot, and harbours a feeling of frustration that he appears unable to convince you of this fact.

    Stuart


    You will not see any such thing, mental patients do not try to convince others about external self realizations. You will never show me an example of a mentally insane person trying to pursue or convince someone else what they are.


    This one did.

    Stuart


    False, you will not see it because it doesn't happen at least not to the point where it has been witnessed

    #232866
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2011,06:07)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,15:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2011,14:53)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,08:27)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2011,16:53)
    Your arguments is like someone with one of their primary senses missing and then seriously arguing that that sense simply is imaginary and cannot exist. You can't hear? then neither can anyone else. You can't see? Then neither can anyone else.

    You see my point? I actually can feel compassion for your position suddenly at least from in this context because it can be a great anguish not being able to sense what others sense.

    Imagine someone telling you about the great joy of a love relationship and you just happen to be one of those people labled anti-social or a sociopath you could then try to engage in a love relationship but condemned to fell absolutely nothing inside and even if someone told you that you were cold and callous it wouldn't even mean anything hence to you love simply wouldn't exist and there would be no convincing you and the sad part is that you wouldn't able to be convinced because you wouldn't be able to feel or relate to the someone attempting to convince you.


    The man in the mental hospital is a carrot, and he feels sorry that you do not have the senses required to see that indeed he is a carrot, and harbours a feeling of frustration that he appears unable to convince you of this fact.

    Stuart


    You will not see any such thing, mental patients do not try to convince others about external self realizations. You will never show me an example of a mentally insane person trying to pursue or convince someone else what they are.


    This one did.

    Stuart


    False, you will not see it because it doesn't happen at least not to the point where it has been witnessed


    Just like angels talking to Mo.

    Stuart

    #232871
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2011,07:54)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2011,06:07)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,15:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2011,14:53)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2011,08:27)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2011,16:53)
    Your arguments is like someone with one of their primary senses missing and then seriously arguing that that sense simply is imaginary and cannot exist. You can't hear? then neither can anyone else. You can't see? Then neither can anyone else.

    You see my point? I actually can feel compassion for your position suddenly at least from in this context because it can be a great anguish not being able to sense what others sense.

    Imagine someone telling you about the great joy of a love relationship and you just happen to be one of those people labled anti-social or a sociopath you could then try to engage in a love relationship but condemned to fell absolutely nothing inside and even if someone told you that you were cold and callous it wouldn't even mean anything hence to you love simply wouldn't exist and there would be no convincing you and the sad part is that you wouldn't able to be convinced because you wouldn't be able to feel or relate to the someone attempting to convince you.


    The man in the mental hospital is a carrot, and he feels sorry that you do not have the senses required to see that indeed he is a carrot, and harbours a feeling of frustration that he appears unable to convince you of this fact.

    Stuart


    You will not see any such thing, mental patients do not try to convince others about external self realizations. You will never show me an example of a mentally insane person trying to pursue or convince someone else what they are.


    This one did.

    Stuart


    False, you will not see it because it doesn't happen at least not to the point where it has been witnessed


    Just like angels talking to Mo.

    Stuart


    That has been reported I said you have never even seen a report such as you mentioned

    #232909
    Stu
    Participant

    I see. And what exactly did you “report”?

    Stuart

    #232964
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2011,16:39)
    I see.  And what exactly did you “report”?

    Stuart


    I was talking about the reports of the Bible and Quran

    #233018
    Ed J
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 14 2011,07:34)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2011,16:39)
    I see.  And what exactly did you “report”?

    Stuart


    I was talking about the reports of the Bible and Quran


    Hi BD,

    Why do you put the 'book of fraud'(114) on the same level as the “Book of Truth”(151), “The Bible”?

    YHVH bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #233037
    princess
    Participant

    Stuart,

    what is your opinion on Ramanujan, Srinivasa

    by my understanding he was credited for 'string theory', and professed to receive such knowledge through namagiri.

    #233091
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 14 2011,07:34)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2011,16:39)
    I see.  And what exactly did you “report”?

    Stuart


    I was talking about the reports of the Bible and Quran


    So your argument is that “it is written”. Well what I posted is written too.

    Stuart

    #233092
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Jan. 14 2011,22:45)
    Stuart,

    what is your opinion on Ramanujan, Srinivasa

    by my understanding he was credited for 'string theory', and professed to receive such knowledge through namagiri.


    I have no idea what you mean, sorry.

    In what way should he be credited with string “theory”? Are we talking about maths that he did that was subsequently used in that field? So what if he attributed his discovery to supernatural beings? His opinion makes no difference to the reality of their existence or otherwise.

    Stuart

    #233097
    princess
    Participant

    'Hardy quotes: “The limitations of his knowledge were as startling as its profundity. Here was a man who could work out modular equations and theorems… to orders unheard of, whose mastery of continued fractions was… beyond that of any mathematician in the world, who had found for himself the functional equation of the zeta function and the dominant terms of many of the most famous problems in the analytic theory of numbers; and yet he had never heard of a doubly periodic function or of Cauchy's theorem, and had indeed but the vaguest idea of what a function of a complex variable was…”.

    by the way this is his superior speaking of Ramanujan.

    this is a man who most assuredly given you some of the  knowledge you have today, that knowledge source was his deity, that cannot be proved to you.

    how does that work?

    #233218
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,08:12)
    'Hardy quotes: “The limitations of his knowledge were as startling as its profundity. Here was a man who could work out modular equations and theorems… to orders unheard of, whose mastery of continued fractions was… beyond that of any mathematician in the world, who had found for himself the functional equation of the zeta function and the dominant terms of many of the most famous problems in the analytic theory of numbers; and yet he had never heard of a doubly periodic function or of Cauchy's theorem, and had indeed but the vaguest idea of what a function of a complex variable was…”.

    by the way this is his superior speaking of Ramanujan.

    this is a man who most assuredly given you some of the  knowledge you have today, that knowledge source was his deity, that cannot be proved to you.

    how does that work?


    It could equally have been Thor that transmitted that information to him. Or Jupiter. Or Odin. Take your pick. It could also be that he just worked these things out for himself, which is what your quote suggests. After all, maths is a human invention and should be reproducible.

    I fancy he had a freaky mathematical ability and the usual dull genetic tendency to believing in imaginary friends, and randomly linked the two in his head.

    Stuart

    #233231
    princess
    Participant

    Stuart you had me worried there for a minute, the first response was so unlike you, the second however has placed it back in check.

    so, will you reject any knowledge that this man has given, since he claims it is from his deity?

    for your use of 'freaky' is strange, would this be related to 'a radom mutation' of sort?

    thanks Stuart.

    #233233
    princess
    Participant

    Stuart,

    just re read your post again. 'human invention' has me at a loss, especially from you, so is this your little way of saying that something else invents. exciting.

    your like the isty bisty spider. this is not a insult in anyway, i like spiders, bats too.

    take care Stuart.

    #233288
    Stu
    Participant

    I really don't understand what is tricky about this. Newton was a brilliant physicist and a zealous religionist. We don't reject Newton's laws of motion because he believed in an Imaginary Friend, or because he gave credit to it for his discoveries.

    The same with anyone. The Romans thanked Bacchus for their decadent parties. Does the fact that they had parties and we still do to this day tell you that Bacchus actually exists? Should we not party because we reject the existence of Bacchus?

    Stuart

    #233290
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,23:42)
    just re read your post again. 'human invention' has me at a loss, especially from you, so is this your little way of saying that something else invents. exciting.


    Humans are not the only species capable of invention:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals

    Stuart

    #233294
    princess
    Participant

    you really have a love for apes, i understand now what you were speaking about, had me there for a minute Stuart.

    something i do not understand though, you will accept scientific matters with ones that give their deity the credit, however you will not accept a basic truth from any religious text.
    little uncertain in how you think in this regard.

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