Attn anti-trinitarians: another us verse

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    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.

    #137873
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    You never forgive people?

    God does not require sacrifice to forgive God is Most Merciful

    #137927

    God does forgive:p

    #137932
    Not3in1
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    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy

    #137933
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:14)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy


    YOU Mandy are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #137934
    Not3in1
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 18 2009,16:16)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:14)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy


    YOU Mandy are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Goodness, on that high note I better leave the room….

    …and head to bed. Yawn!!

    Love ya bro,
    Mandy
    :)

    #137935
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:18)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 18 2009,16:16)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:14)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy


    YOU Mandy are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Goodness, on that high note I better leave the room….

    …and head to bed.  Yawn!!

    Love ya bro,
    Mandy
    :)


    I'm going to bed soon as well.

    God bless you always and I love you! :)

    #137957

    God bless u too I saw a sign at a church that said America bless God

    #137968
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:18)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 18 2009,16:16)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:14)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy


    YOU Mandy are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Goodness, on that high note I better leave the room….

    …and head to bed.  Yawn!!

    Love ya bro,
    Mandy
    :)


    Uh oh!

    I am sure Mandy was not looking for support from a man to says that Paul was a deceiver, that Jesus was presumptuous, that the Scriptures were tampered with, and that Christ was not crucified.

    :p

    #137969
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,16:14)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 17 2009,15:05)
    if Jesus was or is not God then who was our sacerfice for sins? only God can forgive sins.


    Do you imagine that God was the ram caught in the thicket that took Isaac's place?

    God does not have to be the sacrifice.
    God provides the sacrifice.

    Love,
    Mandy


    I imagine it now,

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    Feed the flock of God which He has purcahsed with His own blood (Acts 20:28)

    thinker

    #137978
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    So God is of flesh and blood to you and died?
    Whom did he purchase the flock for?

    #137997
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:08)
    Hi TT,
    So God is of flesh and blood to you and died?
    Whom did he purchase the flock for?


    He purchased the flock for Himself. The angel said,

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    You shall call His name Jesus for He shall save His people from their sins

    The angel said that we are Christ's people. Are we Christ's people or God's people Nick? I guess the angel was an idolater.

    thinker

    #137998
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Jesus is the good shepherd.

    You are right in that you should not have two gods.

    Jesus is not our God but our Lord, the Christ and Son OF God.

    Do you agree with Peter or is his view unacceptable?

    #138156

    do you believe that jesus was not God manifested in the flesh nick?

    #138173
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,11:35)
    Hi TT,
    Jesus is the good shepherd.

    You are right in that you should not have two gods.

    Jesus is not our God but our Lord, the Christ and Son OF God.

    Do you agree with Peter or is his view unacceptable?


    If Christ is our Lord then God is not. If Christ is our shepherd then God is not. Unless God and Christ are one.

    thinker

    #138177

    God and christ are one john 10:30

    #138190
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 21 2009,04:10)
    God and christ are one  john 10:30


    Amen!  :;):

    thinker

    #138212
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ July 21 2009,03:16)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,11:35)
    Hi TT,
    Jesus is the good shepherd.

    You are right in that you should not have two gods.

    Jesus is not our God but our Lord, the Christ and Son OF God.

    Do you agree with Peter or is his view unacceptable?


    If Christ is our Lord then God is not. If Christ is our shepherd then God is not. Unless God and Christ are one.

    thinker


    Hi TT,
    That spells it out plainly.
    Jesus is not your Lord despite 1 Cor8?

    #138248
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,07:28)

    Quote (thethinker @ July 21 2009,03:16)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,11:35)
    Hi TT,
    Jesus is the good shepherd.

    You are right in that you should not have two gods.

    Jesus is not our God but our Lord, the Christ and Son OF God.

    Do you agree with Peter or is his view unacceptable?


    If Christ is our Lord then God is not. If Christ is our shepherd then God is not. Unless God and Christ are one.

    thinker


    Hi TT,
    That spells it out plainly.
    Jesus is not your Lord despite 1 Cor8?


    Read what I said again Nick. My point is that the Father and the Son are one Lord and one shepherd. I was clear.

    thinker

    #138249
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Yes you spiced up scripture with a few ideas of your own.
    But you need to learn the order of things.

    God is the head of Christ who is the head of man…

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