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Agnostic (weak) atheist
This is the most typical kind of atheist. An agnostic atheist will admit that there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of a god but chooses not to believe. This is largely but not exclusively due to the lack of evidence.
Gnostic (strong) atheist
Strong atheism is a position that certain types of gods definitely do not exist. An atheist may be gnostic towards the non-existence of some types of gods yet an agnostic atheist towards other types of gods.
From http://www.strongatheism.net:
“Strong Atheism is the proposition that we should not suspend judgment about the non-existence of a god or gods. More extensively, it is a positive position against theistic values, semantics and anti-materialism, a rational inquiry in the nature of religious thought, a new way of thinking about religious and spiritual issues.”
What is an apatheist?
Apatheism is not having a belief in god and couldn't care less if a god exists or not.
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Seriously, I thought an atheist was an atheist, not so. Just as most faiths have division, it seems atheitism is the same. Why is that?
I got some good news for you. Just becasue someone bleieves somthing dont make it right or wrong, but the ruth is the truth. The world teaches that you find GOD=object of worship. Well this is wrong, you dont or cant find God. If God dont find you , you wont be found. See God is the spirit of life, and he goes forth looking for his lost sheep, when he finds one he redeems it. MY SHEEPKNOW MY VOICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. The key here is can you hear the voice of your father? Then you must be aware who is your father? Is your father GOD or SATAN? If you are the seed of GOD you will know his voice if not you will not know his voice.
Hi Princess,
I think this will answer your question.
Take a look at it. It is not a long read.http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm
Tim
Atheism is a religion, it just substitutes God with happenstance, and any kind of rules of behavior for… well since there is nothing beyond this life, what ever “I” want.
My opinion – Wm
Seekingtruth,
That is one of the silliest things I have ever heard you say.Tell me which of the characteristics of religion in this definition of religion in any way describes atheism.
Definition of RELIGION
1a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observanceNope.
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
Nope.
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
Nope.
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Nope.
Tim
Tim,
Oh come on you've heard me say sillier things! If not then stick around.
1 Corinthians 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,
Definition of religion:
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faithYes.
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Dictionary.com define it as “the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:”
Just because you do not believe in creation, you've only substituted it with an evolutionary belief that everything came from nothing (now that takes a lot of faith)
Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 04 2012,04:53) Tim,
Oh come on you've heard me say sillier things! If not then stick around.
Wm
Tim
Quote (Delriomike @ Feb. 04 2012,01:21) the ruth is the truth
At least you are not being ruthless about it.I'm available for gigs call 0800…
Stuart
Quote (Delriomike @ Feb. 04 2012,01:21) I got some good news for you. Just becasue someone bleieves somthing dont make it right or wrong, but the ruth is the truth. The world teaches that you find GOD=object of worship. Well this is wrong, you dont or cant find God. If God dont find you , you wont be found. See God is the spirit of life, and he goes forth looking for his lost sheep, when he finds one he redeems it. MY SHEEPKNOW MY VOICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. The key here is can you hear the voice of your father? Then you must be aware who is your father? Is your father GOD or SATAN? If you are the seed of GOD you will know his voice if not you will not know his voice.
Thank you for your concern, first off I don't have daddy issues, so no need to go searching for a deity that reflects this, second I am well informed of the truth regarding Christianity.I know it is not wise to call or wait upon some unknown spirit to take over my body, ewww !!!!!!!
Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 04 2012,02:16) Hi Princess,
I think this will answer your question.
Take a look at it. It is not a long read.http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm
Tim
Indeed yes. There is no way for me to rule out with certainty any of the following:* The Judeo-christian god created the universe 6000 years ago.
* The Judeo-christian god created the universe 5 minutes ago.
* The Norse gods created the universe 13.7 billion years ago
* There once was a snake that spoke to a human
* At some point in the future after my death I will be dug up, found wanting against some arbitrary Bronze Age ethical code, then finally destroyed by fire.
* There are aliens on a planetoid in the asteroid belt that have little remote controls that operate all our brains.But I do reserve the right to find them all equally and absurdly unlikely.
Actually, the one that is most likely is that Norse gods created the universe 13.7 billion years ago, because at least we know the universe is that old. Although we don't know what a god is.
As I have written before on this forum, I'm not that interested in the word atheist, because while it is an accurate description of how I carry on my everyday life, it defines me in terms of the delusions of others.
I think of myself as “normal”, retaining the default condition of not believing credulous nonsense. Whether that really is normal for humans or not is highly debatable, I agree.
My atheism is the conclusion, based on the complete lack of any unambiguous evidence for any god claim ever, that there is no such thing as gods, whatever they are thought to be.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2012,08:36) The Judeo-christian god created the universe 6000 years ago.
Scripture rules that out because our age (world) is only one of many that existed before.It says, in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth followed by a period when darkness covered the Earth at which point light pierced the Earth followed by life in 6 stages. The beginning means that before that beginning there was no Heavens and Earth. You seem to blend the meaning of world and Earth into the same word in the same manner that some Christians do. No the word world is the same as Aeon where we get the word eon. There are many eons Stu.
Please update your terse understanding of scripture, otherwise show proof in scripture where it says that the universe is 6000 years, I look forward to that.
You information on some subjects is very low. Best not to comment on subjects where you lack understanding IMO.
Quote (princess @ Feb. 03 2012,22:59) What is an apatheist? Apatheism is not having a belief in god and couldn't care less if a god exists or not.
Don't you mean apetheist?An ape who doesn't believe that humans were genetically engineered by a creator, rather mother nature who possess the IQ of zero did the work.
I cannot exclude God as not being a varible of some kind, due to God or Gods are thoughts that are confirmed in one's mind. So to clearly state that God does not exist would be telling another that their thoughts do not exist. To tell another that their thoughts are not so, takes away from the individual, which I would not or could not do.
Now the manner which one portrays or carries out these thoughts is all together a different subject.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2012,08:52) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2012,08:36) The Judeo-christian god created the universe 6000 years ago.
Scripture rules that out because our age (world) is only one of many that existed before.It says, in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth followed by a period when darkness covered the Earth at which point light pierced the Earth followed by life in 6 stages. The beginning means that before that beginning there was no Heavens and Earth. You seem to blend the meaning of world and Earth into the same word in the same manner that some Christians do. No the word world is the same as Aeon where we get the word eon. There are many eons Stu.
Please update your terse understanding of scripture, otherwise show proof in scripture where it says that the universe is 6000 years, I look forward to that.
You information on some subjects is very low. Best not to comment on subjects where you lack understanding IMO.
Where do you suppose God was, if there was no earth or heavens, then your God was not in heaven at the time was he?Many scriptures repeat the heavens and earth, even know there is something about the law not passing away that reflects this, also a prayer that is to be said, a very popular one.
Now we could reference the demi urge theory, that the Christian God is a false God, that he is really the devil disquising himself as the true God, and then the story of creation (heavens and earth) having a beginning would be put in better perspective, either it is in the Origin of the World, or the Gospel of Truth, cannot recall which one.
Then the beginning story would be more logical, everything was in place, and the demi urge decided to rebel against God, making his/hers own angels (humanity), creating his/hers own heaven (earth) and your a smart man and can figure out the rest, could even strech it to say, you could intergrate the big bang theory, for when the demi urge did do such things, surely there was some form of movement in the universe.
Quote (princess @ Feb. 04 2012,14:03) Where do you suppose God was, if there was no earth or heavens, then your God was not in heaven at the time was he?
God exists outside of his own creation. Outside of creation is infinity. That is where an eternal God dwells. He also exists in his creation by his spirit, but of course does not dwell in sin.Redemption of the Heavens and Earth allows God to dwell fully in his creation once more. But he is and never will be fully contained in his own creation.
Your question is like saying where do you suppose infinity was when there was no expressed finite number.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2012,08:52) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2012,08:36) The Judeo-christian god created the universe 6000 years ago.
Scripture rules that out because our age (world) is only one of many that existed before.It says, in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth followed by a period when darkness covered the Earth at which point light pierced the Earth followed by life in 6 stages. The beginning means that before that beginning there was no Heavens and Earth. You seem to blend the meaning of world and Earth into the same word in the same manner that some Christians do. No the word world is the same as Aeon where we get the word eon. There are many eons Stu.
Please update your terse understanding of scripture, otherwise show proof in scripture where it says that the universe is 6000 years, I look forward to that.
You information on some subjects is very low. Best not to comment on subjects where you lack understanding IMO.
Who said my statement had anything to do with scripture?Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2012,08:53) Quote (princess @ Feb. 03 2012,22:59) What is an apatheist? Apatheism is not having a belief in god and couldn't care less if a god exists or not.
Don't you mean apetheist?An ape who doesn't believe that humans were genetically engineered by a creator, rather mother nature who possess the IQ of zero did the work.
What is a creator? How does it do what it does?Does a creator magically puff into dirt to make one human, then take a rib from the first human and magically turn it into a woman to make the next human, then let them get on with the usual way of making humans for the third and fourth, and for the next generation allow a human woman to magically appear from nothing to marry one of the previously produced male humans? That's a lot of magic.
Indeed mother nature has zero IQ, which is exactly the same IQ as would be required to believe the Judeo-christian fantasy account of history.
Stuart
Quote (princess @ Feb. 04 2012,14:04) Quote I think of myself as “normal” Please share Stuart, what is normal?
Do you really want to kick off that discussion, princess?!I don't think I can define a normal human, perhaps I should remain content just thinking of myself as normal, whatever it means.
Stuart
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