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Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,08:41) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:33) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,08:17) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,06:53) The post is actually full of good points.
“An atheist can only see what is in the material world” is right. But then that applies to everyone, whether theist or not. Faith is the oxymoronic “evidence of the unseen”.But you were claiming this is full of good points. Please give me a second example.
Stuart
Atheists generally concur or see the benefit in the commandments. Atheists generally concur that there is good and bad even if they make the intellectual argument that it doesn't exist.Do I have to go on?
Read the post again.
The commandments consist of god clearing his throat with a lot of totalitarian egomaniacal nonsense followed later by three useful rules, on lying when it matters, murder and theft, that in any case were in play long before the invention of monotheism. So that wasn't a very good point.Regarding your second attempt, perhaps you can reconcile your claim “Atheists generally concur that there is good and bad” with Wakeup's one that goes “There is no good and bad, there can not be; If an atheist still believe in Good and bad,then he or she is not a true atheist,but a confused person.Where is the line that define good and bad.They have no line.”
It doesn't seem to be me who has not read his post.
Stuart
Stu.What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Wu,
Tread careful, do not think Gods words cannot be thrown back at the one who is using them to call another a fool. That is a major factor with Christians that needs to be addressed, what give a Christian the right to think the words they say to another does not apply to them?
Yes wakeup, Princess should know that
women should keep silent, for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.Isn't that in scriptures?
Tim
Oh by the way.
Personally I love to hear what Princess has to say,
so Paul can stick his misogynistic commands.Tim
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 10 2012,00:26) Oh by the way.
Personally I love to hear what Princess has to say,
so Paul can stick his misogynistic commands.Tim
Hi Timothyv1.You seem very angry,against Gods and his laws.
His laws are there not because he sees women as inferior,but to bring peace in the house hold: he does not stop there; he also says that man must love the woman and vice versa.Love is most important with God.( Love not as the world sees it).(sex).The house hold is picturing God as the husband, and Zion his woman as the wife. Zion can never be above God.Zion produces spiritual children,just like a woman does.These will be Gods children; like the angels are.
The children today also dont want to follow the parents laws and rules,because they can not understand why all those stupid rules and regulations.Those rules are silly to them also.
If we follow his laws, then we can have peace or else we have strife; one trying to be above the other,and this will effect the children and the fam. But since you dont believe in God, it is only obvious that you also dont agree with his word.
You having eyes but can not see,and having ears but can not hear. you are living with your eyes closed not seeing Gods work in all nature,but just taking it all for granted because all was there since the day you were born. Not realising that all the fruits and veg. you have eaten, was MANUFACTURED from out of the dirt and cows manure.
Taking it all for granted: Nature is well organised and so complex; you can not disagree with that, but disagree that there is a super beeing, that all the brains of the world put together,can not compete with. This is called rebellious children.
All the great brains in the world tried to bring peace without God involved,but there is no peace,because peace must come from inside man,then he can bring peace.
You dont believe in God because of your pride,but at the same time enjoying his wonderful works.I blame the christian religions for they have stained Gods word the bible, with their wrong teachings.
Peace to you.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,17:46) Princess. Cant you see that I am simply quoting scripture.
wakeup.
No, quoting scripture is different then using God to mock another.What do you think?
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 10 2012,00:24) Yes wakeup, Princess should know that
women should keep silent, for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.Isn't that in scriptures?
Tim
Tim, it is one of the few laws that has not been washed away with the blood of Christ, all the other ones before Christ were, after; not so much….terribly unfair don't you think.Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,02:52) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 10 2012,00:26) Oh by the way.
Personally I love to hear what Princess has to say,
so Paul can stick his misogynistic commands.Tim
Hi Timothyv1.You seem very angry,against Gods and his laws.
His laws are there not because he sees women as inferior,but to bring peace in the house hold: he does not stop there; he also says that man must love the woman and vice versa.Love is most important with God.( Love not as the world sees it).(sex).The house hold is picturing God as the husband, and Zion his woman as the wife. Zion can never be above God.Zion produces spiritual children,just like a woman does.These will be Gods children; like the angels are.
The children today also dont want to follow the parents laws and rules,because they can not understand why all those stupid rules and regulations.Those rules are silly to them also.
If we follow his laws, then we can have peace or else we have strife; one trying to be above the other,and this will effect the children and the fam. But since you dont believe in God, it is only obvious that you also dont agree with his word.
You having eyes but can not see,and having ears but can not hear. you are living with your eyes closed not seeing Gods work in all nature,but just taking it all for granted because all was there since the day you were born. Not realising that all the fruits and veg. you have eaten, was MANUFACTURED from out of the dirt and cows manure.
Taking it all for granted: Nature is well organised and so complex; you can not disagree with that, but disagree that there is a super beeing, that all the brains of the world put together,can not compete with. This is called rebellious children.
All the great brains in the world tried to bring peace without God involved,but there is no peace,because peace must come from inside man,then he can bring peace.
You dont believe in God because of your pride,but at the same time enjoying his wonderful works.I blame the christian religions for they have stained Gods word the bible, with their wrong teachings.
Peace to you.
wakeup.
This is too easy………….Wakeup,
Peace to the household ………hum, so you being the head of the household cannot maintain peace, interesting.
Well tell your mother that she was a inferior human being for letting you live, caring for you ect. ect, or that could be the whole issue with you and woman, you still are clinging on to momma issues.
You really don't have the slightest idea what love is do you? For you to see love as sex, then you have some underlying issue that need to be addressed. Your are magnifying your own and then interrupting them to be God's. Learn to separate them it will help you tremendously.
Did you ever wonder why scriptures uses the milk and meat concept, does not reflect a total masculine persona does it now.
The children of today have not been given any future, either the religions are running around screaming the world is going to end soon, or the media that reports how bad the economy, politics, war, famine, natural disasters. Why would they want to listen, they feel their time is short, rules should not apply to them, the prior generation has made sure of it.
Don't place all the blame on the children. Take on some of it yourself, aren't you one to prophecy the end is coming soon.When you figure all those laws out, let me know hence why there is many denominations, that all proclaim have it right.
There are many good passages in the bible that some naturally just do without having God in their lives. You state one trying to be above one another, when you yourself have placed yourself above woman & children. I do hope I am not on a ship with you and it happens to sink.
You are definitely short changing Tim tremendously, how do you know he does not grow his own fruits and vegetables, perhaps he is a vegetarian. Do you guys get a book or something that stereotypes others and you just parrot from it.
Rebellious children are the ones that use God as a defense to blame humanity because their life isn't what they think it should be and places the blame on another instead of taking some on themselves. I know, I know, you have been a good Christian boy since you came from your mothers womb, and have done nothing to bring on what we have in the world today (sarcasm intended)
All the great preachers and prophets haven't had much success in bringing peace to the world either have they.
I can assure you pride is not the reason why Tim does not believe in God. Don't just blame Christianity for tainting the truth, there are a lot of others out there that need to be given credit too.
Quote (princess @ April 10 2012,08:28) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,02:52) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 10 2012,00:26) Oh by the way.
Personally I love to hear what Princess has to say,
so Paul can stick his misogynistic commands.Tim
Hi Timothyv1.You seem very angry,against Gods and his laws.
His laws are there not because he sees women as inferior,but to bring peace in the house hold: he does not stop there; he also says that man must love the woman and vice versa.Love is most important with God.( Love not as the world sees it).(sex).The house hold is picturing God as the husband, and Zion his woman as the wife. Zion can never be above God.Zion produces spiritual children,just like a woman does.These will be Gods children; like the angels are.
The children today also dont want to follow the parents laws and rules,because they can not understand why all those stupid rules and regulations.Those rules are silly to them also.
If we follow his laws, then we can have peace or else we have strife; one trying to be above the other,and this will effect the children and the fam. But since you dont believe in God, it is only obvious that you also dont agree with his word.
You having eyes but can not see,and having ears but can not hear. you are living with your eyes closed not seeing Gods work in all nature,but just taking it all for granted because all was there since the day you were born. Not realising that all the fruits and veg. you have eaten, was MANUFACTURED from out of the dirt and cows manure.
Taking it all for granted: Nature is well organised and so complex; you can not disagree with that, but disagree that there is a super beeing, that all the brains of the world put together,can not compete with. This is called rebellious children.
All the great brains in the world tried to bring peace without God involved,but there is no peace,because peace must come from inside man,then he can bring peace.
You dont believe in God because of your pride,but at the same time enjoying his wonderful works.I blame the christian religions for they have stained Gods word the bible, with their wrong teachings.
Peace to you.
wakeup.
This is too easy………….Wakeup,
Peace to the household ………hum, so you being the head of the household cannot maintain peace, interesting.
Well tell your mother that she was a inferior human being for letting you live, caring for you ect. ect, or that could be the whole issue with you and woman, you still are clinging on to momma issues.
You really don't have the slightest idea what love is do you? For you to see love as sex, then you have some underlying issue that need to be addressed. Your are magnifying your own and then interrupting them to be God's. Learn to separate them it will help you tremendously.
Did you ever wonder why scriptures uses the milk and meat concept, does not reflect a total masculine persona does it now.
The children of today have not been given any future, either the religions are running around screaming the world is going to end soon, or the media that reports how bad the economy, politics, war, famine, natural disasters. Why would they want to listen, they feel their time is short, rules should not apply to them, the prior generation has made sure of it.
Don't place all the blame on the children. Take on some of it yourself, aren't you one to prophecy the end is coming soon.When you figure all those laws out, let me know hence why there is many denominations, that all proclaim have it right.
There are many good passages in the bible that some naturally just do without having God in their lives. You state one trying to be above one another, when you yourself have placed yourself above woman & children. I do hope I am not on a ship with you and it happens to sink.
You are definitely short changing Tim tremendously, how do you know he does not grow his own fruits and vegetables, perhaps he is a vegetarian. Do you guys get a book or something that stereotypes others and you just parrot from it.
Rebellious children are the ones that use God as a defense to blame humanity because their life isn't what they think it should be and places the blame on another instead of taking some on themselves. I know, I know, you have been a good Christian boy since you came from your mothers womb, and have done nothing to bring on what we have in the world today (sarcasm intended)
All the great preachers and prophets haven't had much success in bringing peace to the world either have they.
I can assure you pride is not the reason why Tim does not believe in God. Don't just blame Christianity for tainting the truth, there are a lot of others out there that need to be given credit too.
Hi Princess,have you got a prince?God is a father to all of us,and he knows better than all of us, he is also much older than all of us,and wiser.
Is it not wise to reject his commandments,even if it does restrict us from doing some naughty things; like DONT TOUCH THAT STOVE ,ITS HOT,you will get burned.God says one head in a household,not two,it will cause restlessness and strife.
We living in the 21st century say; that is discrimination,we dont live in the past,for we are a great people now,we know better than you,so called God. leave us alone and let us do what we want. we want freedom.
But when trouble comes,they will blame God,and say what kind of a God are you,is this a so called loving God.
I will have nothing to do with that kind of a God.Do you know what true love is princess?
If true love is between two people,there will be harmony,one respecting the other,but the law can not change.
One ship ,one captain. one platoon, one captain.Only one can wear the pants in the house hold,and that is the man.The negative must work together with the pisitive to produce light. There must be day and night,hot and cold; all working for a purpose.
There must be male and female,for a purpose.The female has her job and the male has his job. The female can bare children but the male can give his seed,all for a purpose.
The male brings in the dollars,the female take care of bringing up the future generation.In a car plant everyone has a certain job to do,and can not interfere with each others job.
As soon as we disrupt that system we will have confusion,as we have today. And we blame the law giver,the creator.
We break Gods laws,and society has become greedy,thieves,selfish,proud,disobedient,warmongers,oppressing the poor,disobedient to parents,no conscience,disrespectful,and they ask why is there so much problems in this world.
Come to me ye heavily laden Jesus said,and I will give you rest; my yoke is light.
The world says get away you old man living 2000yrs ago,what have we got to do with you,leave us alone.
I still like to know about you princess. Are you a believer or a non believer?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 10 2012,22:47) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Stu.Are you copping out? fine.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,23:48) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2012,22:47) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Stu.Are you copping out? fine.
wakeup.
If I invited you over for coffee and you sat on my sofa and I had to warn you not to sit in that particular seat because you were squashing my imaginary friend, and I told you that I talk about you with him and that he will punish you with violence if you do not follow his rules, you should think me both a poor host and quite mad.So, before you tell me all this stuff about your Imaginary Friend, perhaps you could have the courtesy of demonstrating that it actually exists, and not just assume I know what you mean.
Like I say, get back to me if you wish to have discussion, not if you wish to indulge in lunatic raving preaching that assumes I will go along with your strange delusion of some celestial conspiracy theory.
Stuart
Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,13:56) Hi Princess,have you got a prince? Yes, my son, who I call the young prince.
Quote God is a father to all of us,and he knows better than all of us, he is also much older than all of us,and wiser.
Is it not wise to reject his commandments,even if it does restrict us from doing some naughty things; like DONT TOUCH THAT STOVE ,ITS HOT,you will get burned.Your preaching to the choir WU, I have done the commandments the old and the new, I would not be surprised if as my life is now I follow them better then you do.
Quote God says one head in a household,not two,it will cause restlessness and strife. Funny, I understand it as Paul says……..
Quote We living in the 21st century say; that is discrimination,we dont live in the past,for we are a great people now,we know better than you,so called God. leave us alone and let us do what we want. we want freedom. Really, do you want to get into this conversation with me WU, the day has been long and my mood is short. Perhaps you should read Proverbs 31 and get a bit of the jest of what you should be looking for in a woman. That verse does not show a woman being silent nor waiting on her husband to make decisions for her, she knows what to do and just gets it done. Welcome to the 21st century woman. The only time discrimination is considered is the ones that cannot handle a woman of such.
Quote But when trouble comes,they will blame God,and say what kind of a God are you,is this a so called loving God.
I will have nothing to do with that kind of a God.Well, then I will remember when I am having a good day to blame God and have nothing to do with that kind of God, thanks for the reminder.
Quote Do you know what true love is princess?
No, but I do understand unconditional love, you?Quote If true love is between two people,there will be harmony,one respecting the other,but the law can not change.
One ship ,one captain. one platoon, one captain.Only one can wear the pants in the house hold,and that is the man.Thats great WU, I am sure your wife lays your pants out ever morning for you.
Quote The negative must work together with the pisitive to produce light. There must be day and night,hot and cold; all working for a purpose. Ying and Yang concept.
Quote There must be male and female,for a purpose.The female has her job and the male has his job. The female can bare children but the male can give his seed,all for a purpose. LOL ,that is the most male chauvistest thing I have ever heard before and surprising I think you thought of it yourself. How many wives do you have? Your seed doesn't do any good to the be fruitful and multiply concept without a woman being around, so your seed is really not all purpose as you may think.
Quote The male brings in the dollars,the female take care of bringing up the future generation.In a car plant everyone has a certain job to do,and can not interfere with each others job. Too many avenues on this one, like I said long day, and mood is short. I work two jobs WU, one being self employed and still have time to raise my future generation…..did I mention that this is all without a male present. So what is your point.
Quote As soon as we disrupt that system we will have confusion,as we have today. And we blame the law giver,the creator. No one is blaming God, if anything it is the thought process that this God is establishing to humanity.
Quote We break Gods laws,and society has become greedy,thieves,selfish,proud,disobedient,warmongers,oppressing the poor,disobedient to parents,no conscience,disrespectful,and they ask why is there so much problems in this world. Your just figuring this out now, you really need to adjust your opinion of humanity for if that is all you see, then you are in a sad place in life, even though there are ones out there like that does not mean everyone is such. And have you ever thought since christianity gives so much attention to this type of behavior it doesnt personify it even more. There is a tribe of Indians that when a child mis behaved they ignored them, but when the child did good the child was praised for the whole tribe to hear.
Quote Come to me ye heavily laden Jesus said,and I will give you rest; my yoke is light. I am not heavy laden, and I rest one day a week.
Quote The world says get away you old man living 2000yrs ago,what have we got to do with you,leave us alone. Not really chrisianity is a very popular religion
Quote I still like to know about you princess. Are you a believer or a non believer? I am sure you would, it must be refreshing for you to converse with me. Am I a believer in the christian God, no not anymore, for that matter I believe in no God.
Quote (princess @ April 11 2012,13:54) Quote I still like to know about you princess. Are you a believer or a non believer? I am sure you would, it must be refreshing for you to converse with me. Am I a believer in the christian God, no not anymore, for that matter I believe in no God.
Hi Princess,May I ask: what caused you to loose faith?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,15:08) Hi Princess, May I ask: what caused you to loose faith?
I'd guess it was poor spelling by christians that was the final straw for princess.Bare children?? Bear!
Loose faith?? Lose!
Best not to discuss bears and children. That didn't turn out too well in 2 Kings 2:24.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 11 2012,09:25) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,23:48) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2012,22:47) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Stu.Are you copping out? fine.
wakeup.
If I invited you over for coffee and you sat on my sofa and I had to warn you not to sit in that particular seat because you were squashing my imaginary friend, and I told you that I talk about you with him and that he will punish you with violence if you do not follow his rules, you should think me both a poor host and quite mad.So, before you tell me all this stuff about your Imaginary Friend, perhaps you could have the courtesy of demonstrating that it actually exists, and not just assume I know what you mean.
Like I say, get back to me if you wish to have discussion, not if you wish to indulge in lunatic raving preaching that assumes I will go along with your strange delusion of some celestial conspiracy theory.
Stuart
Stu.May,many great leaders in history and today, believe in the supernatural.
You make them all look like mad and nieve leaders.
Hitler believed in the supernatural,but he worshipped the wrong one.You are dismissing God as non existing,but you can not prove with your knowledge that he does not exist.
So prove it,and I will listen to your wisdom.You are protected by Gods 10 commandments
as you are now.
Dont you understand that,cant you see that?wakeup.
Quote (princess @ April 11 2012,13:54) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,13:56) Hi Princess,have you got a prince? Yes, my son, who I call the young prince.
Quote God is a father to all of us,and he knows better than all of us, he is also much older than all of us,and wiser.
Is it not wise to reject his commandments,even if it does restrict us from doing some naughty things; like DONT TOUCH THAT STOVE ,ITS HOT,you will get burned.Your preaching to the choir WU, I have done the commandments the old and the new, I would not be surprised if as my life is now I follow them better then you do.
Quote God says one head in a household,not two,it will cause restlessness and strife. Funny, I understand it as Paul says……..
Quote We living in the 21st century say; that is discrimination,we dont live in the past,for we are a great people now,we know better than you,so called God. leave us alone and let us do what we want. we want freedom. Really, do you want to get into this conversation with me WU, the day has been long and my mood is short. Perhaps you should read Proverbs 31 and get a bit of the jest of what you should be looking for in a woman. That verse does not show a woman being silent nor waiting on her husband to make decisions for her, she knows what to do and just gets it done. Welcome to the 21st century woman. The only time discrimination is considered is the ones that cannot handle a woman of such.
Quote But when trouble comes,they will blame God,and say what kind of a God are you,is this a so called loving God.
I will have nothing to do with that kind of a God.Well, then I will remember when I am having a good day to blame God and have nothing to do with that kind of God, thanks for the reminder.
Quote Do you know what true love is princess?
No, but I do understand unconditional love, you?Quote If true love is between two people,there will be harmony,one respecting the other,but the law can not change.
One ship ,one captain. one platoon, one captain.Only one can wear the pants in the house hold,and that is the man.Thats great WU, I am sure your wife lays your pants out ever morning for you.
Quote The negative must work together with the pisitive to produce light. There must be day and night,hot and cold; all working for a purpose. Ying and Yang concept.
Quote There must be male and female,for a purpose.The female has her job and the male has his job. The female can bare children but the male can give his seed,all for a purpose. LOL ,that is the most male chauvistest thing I have ever heard before and surprising I think you thought of it yourself. How many wives do you have? Your seed doesn't do any good to the be fruitful and multiply concept without a woman being around, so your seed is really not all purpose as you may think.
Quote The male brings in the dollars,the female take care of bringing up the future generation.In a car plant everyone has a certain job to do,and can not interfere with each others job. Too many avenues on this one, like I said long day, and mood is short. I work two jobs WU, one being self employed and still have time to raise my future generation…..did I mention that this is all without a male present. So what is your point.
Quote As soon as we disrupt that system we will have confusion,as we have today. And we blame the law giver,the creator. No one is blaming God, if anything it is the thought process that this God is establishing to humanity.
Quote We break Gods laws,and society has become greedy,thieves,selfish,proud,disobedient,warmongers,oppressing the poor,disobedient to parents,no conscience,disrespectful,and they ask why is there so much problems in this world. Your just figuring this out now, you really need to adjust your opinion of humanity for if that is all you see, then you are in a sad place in life, even though there are ones out there like that does not mean everyone is such. And have you ever thought since christianity gives so much attention to this type of behavior it doesnt personify it even more. There is a tribe of Indians that when a child mis behaved they ignored them, but when the child did good the child was praised for the whole tribe to hear.
Quote Come to me ye heavily laden Jesus said,and I will give you rest; my yoke is light. I am not heavy laden, and I rest one day a week.
Quote The world says get away you old man living 2000yrs ago,what have we got to do with you,leave us alone. Not really chrisianity is a very popular religion
Quote I still like to know about you princess. Are you a believer or a non believer? I am sure you would, it must be
refreshing for you to converse with me. Am I a believer in the christian God, no not anymore, for that matter I believe in no God.
Hi Princess.Prov.31:10. Who can find a virtuous woman?
FOR HER PRICE IS FAR ABOVE RUBIES.God is praising a virtuous woman,She is worth everything to her husband,unfortunately there are not too many of them in this world, and this counts for men also.
verse 11. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her,so that he shall have no need for spoil.
She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.(this is true love)A woman like that and a man like that, needs to be loved completely,and respected. Love is the power that bind them together,but each one have a job to do,and both working for the fam.as a team.
One must not try to take the others job; unless the man is no more,then she can take over his job,and vice versa.The woman is as priceless as the man,The goal keeper is as important as the rest of the players,the team must work together,to be successful.
Princees;I think a good woman needs to be treasured.
I am not looking down on any woman,for that is not acceptable in the eyes of God.You must take it easy,and have peace of mind,all is for a purpose. Nice chatting with you.Where are you from? I am in australia.
My kindest regards to you.
wakeup.
God is praising a good woman,not degrading.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 11 2012,20:12) Quote (Stu @ April 11 2012,09:25) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,23:48) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2012,22:47) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Stu.Are you copping out? fine.
wakeup.
If I invited you over for coffee and you sat on my sofa and I had to warn you not to sit in that particular seat because you were squashing my imaginary friend, and I told you that I talk about you with him and that he will punish you with violence if you do not follow his rules, you should think me both a poor host and quite mad.So, before you tell me all this stuff about your Imaginary Friend, perhaps you could have the courtesy of demonstrating that it actually exists, and not just assume I know what you mean.
Like I say, get back to me if you wish to have discussion, not if you wish to indulge in lunatic raving preaching that assumes I will go along with your strange delusion of some celestial conspiracy theory.
Stuart
Stu.May,many great leaders in history and today, believe in the supernatural.
You make them all look like mad and nieve leaders.
Who cares particularly about leaders, great or otherwise?Quote Hitler believed in the supernatural,but he worshipped the wrong one.
Good to see you think Hitler was a great leader. I guess he did have tremendous skills of leadership. He was both mad and naïve and had the Catholic church sending him their prayers on his birthday. So much for the morality of the largest christian sect on the planet. But you’re not like them of course, are you.Quote You are dismissing God as non existing,but you can not prove with your knowledge that he does not exist.
What is a god?Quote So prove it,and I will listen to your wisdom.
It’s your Imaginary Friend. You have the burden of its proof, just as I would have the burden of proof of my imaginary friend.Quote You are protected by Gods 10 commandments
as you are now.
Dont you understand that,cant you see that?
I am protected from all the people who threaten me by worshipping idols, am I?Why are you still arrogantly assuming I will go along with your apparent mental delusion? Please demonstrate to me the existence of this god thing, or stop being so rude.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 11 2012,21:44) Quote (Wakeup @ April 11 2012,20:12) Quote (Stu @ April 11 2012,09:25) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2012,23:48) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2012,22:47) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2012,04:36) Stu. What commandment do you follow,since you dont follow Gods commandments?
What would the world be without Gods commandments?If I steal your credit card is that bad,or is that ok.
It may be bad for you,but to me it is good,its all relative.
You can not live that out.Its bad for your bank account but it is good for mine,that is my law.You stay with your law and I stay with mine. Its all relative.There is an invisible line between good and bad,and who is the judge to draw that line? Can you name the inventor of that invisible line?
God says;professing them selfves to be wise,turning them selves into fools.
wakeup.
Get back to me when you are interested in a discussion, and not just mindless prostyletising. I don’t respond so well to such base discourtesy, especially as the god you witter on about doesn’t appear to actually exist.Stuart
Stu.Are you copping out? fine.
wakeup.
If I invited you over for coffee and you sat on my sofa and I had to warn you not to sit in that particular seat because you were squashing my imaginary friend, and I told you that I talk about you with him and that he will punish you with violence if you do not follow his rules, you should think me both a poor host and quite mad.So, before you tell me all this stuff about your Imaginary Friend, perhaps you could have the courtesy of demonstrating that it actually exists, and not just assume I know what you mean.
Like I say, get back to me if you wish to have discussion, not if you wish to indulge in lunatic raving preaching that assumes I will go along with your strange delusion of some celestial conspiracy theory.
Stuart
Stu.May,many great leaders in history and today, believe in the supernatural.
You make them all look like mad and nieve leaders.
Who cares particularly about leaders, great or otherwise?Quote Hitler believed in the supernatural,but he worshipped the wrong one.
Good to see you think Hitler was a great leader. I guess he did have tremendous skills of leadership. He was both mad and naïve and had the Catholic church sending him their prayers on his birthday. So much for the morality of the largest christian sect on the planet. But you’re not like them of course, are you.Quote You are dismissing God as non existing,but you can not prove with your knowledge that he does not exist.
What is a god?Quote So prove it,and I will listen to your wisdom.
It’s your Imaginary Friend. You have the burden of its proof, just as I would have the burden of proof of my imaginary friend.Quote You are protected by Gods 10 commandments
as you are now.
Dont you understand that,cant you see that?
I am protected from all the people who threaten me by worshipping idols, am I?Why are you still arrogantly assuming I will go along with your apparent mental delusion? Please demonstrate to me the existence of this god thing, or stop being so rude.
Stuart
Hi stu.Sorry if I came across rude,but I assure you it was not ment to be.
This is about believes contra believes,and not person against person.No one can prove anything,but can give evidence.
Love is real but can not scientifically be proved.
Look into the simplest cell,and it will boggle your mind,and the complexity even the scientists wonder.
How can it be,whos wisdom is that.If the simplest cell is so complex, what about evolution?
Where did that simple cell evolve from?
There must be a greater mind that created that.
But you just ignore such a great wonder,and say its nature.
Thats it,take it or leave it. Anyone that believe in some kind of a God is an idiot.wakeup.
wakeup.
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