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Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:25) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) He is more than a mere “anonymous person from history” of which you are well aware. This one man has influenced the world more than any other person that has walked this planet. Nice try.
The mythology of Jesus has been the influence, in the same way that it could be the mythology of Socrates that also has influenced thinking. It is not reasonable to claim to know what the historical Jesus actually did or said.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Eyewitness testimony is more that reasonable to consider,
Judges make decisions based on eyewitness testimony all the time.
Matthew, John and Peter all had a personal relationship with Jesus of Nazareth.As a matter of fact James and Jude were Jesus' brothers,
surely their testimony should be considered historically accurate!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Where did any of these people write down what they saw?Stuart
Hi Stuart,In the books they wrote,
they are all in the bible.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:12) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) You'd call over two billion followers insignificant would you Stu…obviously math is not your thing.
Hi Devolution,Ain't that the truth!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Did you read my reply to Devolution on this point?Clearly reading isn't your thing.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You mean, listening to men is not my thing.
“We ought to obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WhatIsTrue @ June 05 2012,03:16) Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,05:09) We know the events leading up to it in detail and perfect order.
What was the last big event, and what is the next big event? And how long until it happens?
Hi what is trueHere is a prophesy.
Ezekiel 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
Who is God speaking to?
Who will be overturned 3 times?Overturn no. 1
2 Kings 17:6 In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.2 Kings 17:23 Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.
Overturn no.2
2 Kings 24:10 At that time the servants of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up against Jerusalem, and the city was besieged.2 Kings 24:15 And he carried away Jehoiachin to Babylon, and the king's mother, and the king's wives, and his officers, and the mighty of the land, those carried he into captivity from Jerusalem to Babylon.
2 Kings 24:16 And all the men of might, even seven thousand, and craftsmen and smiths a thousand, all that were strong and apt for war, even them the king of Babylon brought captive to Babylon.
In man's words
excerpt from “History-Of-Israel.org site”722 (BCE) – The Assyrians
The Assyrians, a powerful people from northern Mesopotamia
(today northern Iraq), invaded the northern Kingdom of Israel and deported the Jews to other parts of the Assyrian Empire. The Kingdom of Israel perished.586 (BCE) – The Babylonians
After the fall of the Assyrian Empire the Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar II, conquered Jerusalem. The most influential Jews of Judea were deported to Babylon (in southern Mesopotamia, today Iraq). The first Jewish temple in Jerusalem was destroyed.My words
Since then, Israel has been occupied by other nations.
In 1948, Israel was given back their land, and declared a state. This was a big event, as they were scattered throughout the world.But the 3rd overturn has not happened yet.
Jeremiah 16:16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.
Ezekiel 21:31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy
Ezekiel 21:32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the Lord have spoken it.
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
Jeremiah 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.
Jeremiah 25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations.
Jeremiah 29:10 For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
Who is the modern day king of Babylon?
And who is “that nation”
Can you see what the scriptures are saying here?but before all this happens, another event must come first, the one we are looking out for. It is very close.
Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:25) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) He is more than a mere “anonymous person from history” of which you are well aware. This one man has influenced the world more than any other person that has walked this planet. Nice try.
The mythology of Jesus has been the influence, in the same way that it could be the mythology of Socrates that also has influenced thinking. It is not reasonable to claim to know what the historical Jesus actually did or said.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Eyewitness testimony is more that reasonable to consider,
Judges make decisions based on eyewitness testimony all the time.
Matthew, John and Peter all had a personal relationship with Jesus of Nazareth.As a matter of fact James and Jude were Jesus' brothers,
surely their testimony should be considered historically accurate!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Where did any of these people write down what they saw?Stuart
Hi Stuart,In the books they wrote,
they are all in the bible.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry? Which books?Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:06) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:12) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) You'd call over two billion followers insignificant would you Stu…obviously math is not your thing.
Hi Devolution,Ain't that the truth!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Did you read my reply to Devolution on this point?Clearly reading isn't your thing.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You mean, listening to men is not my thing.
“We ought to obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
But you will read the “wisdom” of Devolution.Is he a god?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,22:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:25) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) He is more than a mere “anonymous person from history” of which you are well aware. This one man has influenced the world more than any other person that has walked this planet. Nice try.
The mythology of Jesus has been the influence, in the same way that it could be the mythology of Socrates that also has influenced thinking. It is not reasonable to claim to know what the historical Jesus actually did or said.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Eyewitness testimony is more that reasonable to consider,
Judges make decisions based on eyewitness testimony all the time.
Matthew, John and Peter all had a personal relationship with Jesus of Nazareth.As a matter of fact James and Jude were Jesus' brothers,
surely their testimony should be considered historically accurate!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Where did any of these people write down what they saw?Stuart
Hi Stuart,In the books they wrote,
they are all in the bible.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry? Which books?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Gospel of Matthew and John, 1,2,3rd-John, 1,2-Peter, James and Jude.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:32) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,12:40) As for murder and rape rates, if we are speaking of the USA & EU, then yes those rates have fallen. However, worldwide, the rates are still consistent with spikes both ways.
However many other crimes have increased greatly. There are many other ways to hurt people without needing to kill them. Yet murder is still murder, and any murder rate is too high in my opinion.
You were given statistics, and you reply with assertions of what you reckon.Can you support your argument with actual data?
Stuart
Hi Stu,If you notice within my reply to WhatIsTrue, the green text is taken from a study taken on that subject which supplies the data. I thought that information would speak for itself. So i did provide evidence.
It won't take much to find the report if you so wish to follow it up.
Cheers.
Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,23:08) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,22:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:25) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) He is more than a mere “anonymous person from history” of which you are well aware. This one man has influenced the world more than any other person that has walked this planet. Nice try.
The mythology of Jesus has been the influence, in the same way that it could be the mythology of Socrates that also has influenced thinking. It is not reasonable to claim to know what the historical Jesus actually did or said.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Eyewitness testimony is more that reasonable to consider,
Judges make decisions based on eyewitness testimony all the time.
Matthew, John and Peter all had a personal relationship with Jesus of Nazareth.As a matter of fact James and Jude were Jesus' brothers,
surely their testimony should be considered historically accurate!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Where did any of these people write down what they saw?Stuart
Hi Stuart,In the books they wrote,
they are all in the bible.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry? Which books?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Gospel of Matthew and John, 1,2,3rd-John, 1,2-Peter, James and Jude.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Although they claim to report what Jesus said and did, the gospels are anonymous. If you can't confidently report who wrote them (authorship is not recorded in the gospels) then you can hardly claim them as eyewitness accounts. The authorship of writings attributed to various Johns takes up whole chapters in books. It is not simply a matter of claiming that “John knew Jesus”. We don't know which John wrote which, and the gospel is certainly anonymous. It is a Second Century tradition to ascribe it to “John the Apostle”. That is not the scholarly view of its authorship.Whether or not James, Jude and Peter ever met Jesus or not, they are not writing about what he said and did in their letters.
Mark (like Luke) appears definitely not to have been an eyewitness, he wrote the first account from multiple sources of information which may or may not include conversations with Peter, but rely heavily on an interpretation of the Old Testament. Even if Peter is involved it is still not an eyewitness account you are reading in Mark.
The majority scholarly view is the Two Source Hypothesis: Matthew and Luke copied Mark plus an unknown document, the Quelle, thought to be a book of sayings attributed to Jesus. Mark was not written until after 70CE, so clearly Matthew did not know Jesus. The authorship of the Quelle document is also unknown, as is the original document itself.
Applying the principles of critical historical study, it is not reasonable to claim that any modern person has read an eyewitness account of what Jesus said or did.
Stuart
Quote (Devolution @ June 06 2012,00:43) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:32) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,12:40) As for murder and rape rates, if we are speaking of the USA & EU, then yes those rates have fallen. However, worldwide, the rates are still consistent with spikes both ways.
However many other crimes have increased greatly. There are many other ways to hurt people without needing to kill them. Yet murder is still murder, and any murder rate is too high in my opinion.
You were given statistics, and you reply with assertions of what you reckon.Can you support your argument with actual data?
Stuart
Hi Stu,If you notice within my reply to WhatIsTrue, the green text is taken from a study taken on that subject which supplies the data. I thought that information would speak for itself. So i did provide evidence.
It won't take much to find the report if you so wish to follow it up.
Cheers.
You didn't provide evidence against what WiT was saying though. The only thing you supported was a claim that the number of conflicts was increasing. He was still right that things are getting better all the time, as shown in the death rates from wars. The number of wars is irrelevant to the point he was making.You could debate what you mean by the word “raging”, but you still claimed that “murders and rapes and thefts and muggings and all manner of crimes are prevalent with even young children committing heinous acts unlike ever before!” without supporting that with statistics that counter the research that shows this is the most peaceful time to live as a human in the past 10,000 years.
Stuart
Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,07:40) Interesting. Notice the title of the graph?
It is speaking of casualties. With most engagements, since and besides WW2 and the several wars of the 50's – 60's, the trend has been one of “management”. Civilian casualties are frowned upon and armies must, for fear of foreign intervention/public opinion, manage civilian casualties carefully. Here is our drop in casualties reflected on your graph.Since Vietnam/Korea, wars have taken on a different approach. No longer are we seeing large armies amassed in concentrations slogging it out until the victor emerges from the bloodbath, instead we see a more tactical theater where small yet tactically significant skirmishes are the norm.
You have just made my point perfectly. Ask yourself, why are civilian casualties frowned upon now when they were tolerated, and sometimes desired, fifty years ago? Why is it no longer acceptable to engage in a “bloodbath”?
The short is answer is that we are becoming less violent as a society.
Quote Here is a small part of one recent report to counter your claim: New research by Professors Mark Harrison from the University of Warwick and Nikolaus Wolf from Humboldt University has revealed that between 1870 and 2001, the frequency of wars between states increased steadily by 2% a year on average. …
All true, but it also reinforces the point that even with an increasing number of conflicts, the conflicts have become less lethal.
(It should be noted that during the time the number of conflicts have increased, there has also been a substantial increase in the number of countries in the world. I think that these two phenomena are closely related.)
Quote This is the beginning of the rapidly approaching end of mankinds rule over this planet once and for all. And i welcome it wholeheartedly.
No more slaving everyday just to eat for unjust wages, if you're lucky enough to have a job. No more bill after bill after bill. No more needing mans permission to do this or that without clearance as though they themselves own the whole damn planet like gods. No more struggling to pay rent, no more take take take until we have nothing left. No more unable to buy overpriced housing etc etc etc.This is the point that I was making earlier about Christians who consider this world worthless and would do nothing to make it a better place but would rather “burn the whole house down” in the hopes that there is a new a better place awaiting them.
I genuinely feel sorry for people who go through life like this, but I feel even worse for those who have to put up with people like this.
Quote With God it is give give give. And if you are with Him, then you become joint owner of all creation, and true freedom will kick in like we have never experienced. What i am attracted to the most, is the promise of the eventual end of evil. No more suffering for anyone. My heart breaks at hearing of all the evil crimes, especially helpless children being hurt. I find it hard to listen to the reports. All will eventually become family, no more evil and no more death anymore. True peace will reign. This is what i love. I hate people hurting each other, physically or other.
And to witness what glorious things God will create thereafter.Genesis 7:20:23
The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.One of the worst ways to die is by drowning. Imagine the horror of every living creature on Earth drown at the same time.
I am sure that no children – no newborn babies – got hurt though, right?
Exodus 4:24-26
And it came to pass on the way, at the encampment, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!” So He let him go. Then she said, “You are a husband of blood!”—because of the circumcision.No hurt child here, right? I am sure that an impromptu circumcision is like going out for an ice cream sundae.
Deuteronomy 20:13-14
And when the Lord your God delivers it into your hands, you shall strike every male in it with the edge of the sword. But the women, the little ones, the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall plunder for yourself; and you shall eat the enemies’ plunder which the Lord your God gives you.There's nothing even remotely evil about that, right?
Joshua 6:20-21
So the people shouted when the priests blew the trumpets. And it happened when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat. Then the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.No child left behind!
You look forward to spending an eternity with the god who did (or commanded) all of these things?
Good luck!
Quote So my reasons are not selfish for wanting eternal life, but to share eternal life with billions of others who desire the same things…wondering at the glorious creations God no doubt will create for every bodies benefit/joy in peace and harmony where respect and love for others is tantamount. Just out of curiousity, while you enjoying your heavenly bliss, what do you expect to be happening to me? (I presume there won't be any suffering involved, since you don't like when people get hurt.)
Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,22:43) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:06) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:12) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) You'd call over two billion followers insignificant would you Stu…obviously math is not your thing.
Hi Devolution,Ain't that the truth!
God bless
Ed J
Did you read my reply to Devolution on this point?Clearly reading isn't your thing.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You mean, listening to men is not my thing.
“We ought to obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
But you will read the “wisdom” of Devolution.Is he a god?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I read the “wisdom” of Stuart too.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 06 2012,00:45) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,23:08) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,22:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,17:03) Quote (Stu @ June 05 2012,16:25) Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,01:30) He is more than a mere “anonymous person from history” of which you are well aware. This one man has influenced the world more than any other person that has walked this planet. Nice try.
The mythology of Jesus has been the influence, in the same way that it could be the mythology of Socrates that also has influenced thinking. It is not reasonable to claim to know what the historical Jesus actually did or said.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Eyewitness testimony is more that reasonable to consider,
Judges make decisions based on eyewitness testimony all the time.
Matthew, John and Peter all had a personal relationship with Jesus of Nazareth.As a matter of fact James and Jude were Jesus' brothers,
surely their testimony should be considered historically accurate!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Where did any of these people write down what they saw?Stuart
Hi Stuart,In the books they wrote,
they are all in the bible.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry? Which books?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Gospel of Matthew and John, 1,2,3rd-John, 1,2-Peter, James and Jude.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Although they claim to report what Jesus said and did, the gospels are anonymous. If you can't confidently report who wrote them (authorship is not recorded in the gospels) then you can hardly claim them as eyewitness accounts. The authorship of writings attributed to various Johns takes up whole chapters in books. It is not simply a matter of claiming that “John knew Jesus”. We don't know which John wrote which, and the gospel is certainly anonymous. It is a Second Century tradition to ascribe it to “John the Apostle”. That is not the scholarly view of its authorship.Whether or not James, Jude and Peter ever met Jesus or not, they are not writing about what he said and did in their letters.
Mark (like Luke) appears definitely not to have been an eyewitness, he wrote the first account from multiple sources of information which may or may not include conversations with Peter, but rely heavily on an interpretation of the Old Testament. Even if Peter is involved it is still not an eyewitness account you are reading in Mark.
The majority scholarly view is the Two Source Hypothesis: Matthew and Luke copied Mark plus an unknown document, the Quelle, thought to be a book of sayings attributed to Jesus. Mark was not written until after 70CE, so clearly Matthew did not know Jesus. The authorship of the Quelle document is also unknown, as is the original document itself.
Applying the principles of critical historical study, it is not reasonable to claim that any modern person has read an eyewitness account of what Jesus said or did.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You can have your opinion as can everyone else.
Not all the books were signed by their Authors.
But “God's Signature” is certainly in his book.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,03:32) Exodus 4:24-26
And it came to pass on the way, at the encampment, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!” So He let him go. Then she said, “You are a husband of blood!”—because of the circumcision.No hurt child here, right? I am sure that an impromptu circumcision is like going out for an ice cream sundae.
Hi WIT,Right now, the only known prevention of cervical cancer in women
is the circumcision of those males having intercourse with them.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,03:32) Just out of curiousity, while you enjoying your heavenly bliss, what do you expect to be happening to me? (I presume there won't be any suffering involved, since you don't like when people get hurt.)
Hi WIT,You will have to go through the second death,
for the wages of sin is death. (Rom.6:23/Rev.2:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ June 05 2012,17:35) Who is the modern day king of Babylon?
And who is “that nation”
Can you see what the scriptures are saying here?but before all this happens, another event must come first, the one we are looking out for. It is very close.
You said that you could tell me events in detail. So far, you are asking me to guess the answers to questions based on some vague bible passages.Be specific.
What is next? And what exactly does “very close” mean? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? (Or, in the case of the disciples who thought Jesus would return “soon”, millenia?)
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,04:40) Quote (journey42 @ June 05 2012,17:35) Who is the modern day king of Babylon?
And who is “that nation”
Can you see what the scriptures are saying here?but before all this happens, another event must come first, the one we are looking out for. It is very close.
You said that you could tell me events in detail. So far, you are asking me to guess the answers to questions based on some vague bible passages.Be specific.
What is next? And what exactly does “very close” mean? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? (Or, in the case of the disciples who thought Jesus would return “soon”, millenia?)
Whatistrue.1.The book of revelation says that there will be 10 kings together ruling this earth,controling everything,including a new system of doing business.
Today there are 27 in the EU,I think;but it will end up with only 10. It is also possible that the EU would be changed into some other name.
Then one man will come up,this is the man of perdition spoken of in 2 thess2.He will take control and lead, and he will put down new rules and regulations and introduce the micro chip and make it compusory for all to have one.
The idea is total control,and he will first go after the Christians; he will kill them and some put in camps.
All this will happen inside the 10yrs,from now.One must study JER.25. to see this.
You will still be here to watch all this taken place.wakeup.
Hi WIT,
Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost“.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,04:40) Quote (journey42 @ June 05 2012,17:35) Who is the modern day king of Babylon?
And who is “that nation”
Can you see what the scriptures are saying here?but before all this happens, another event must come first, the one we are looking out for. It is very close.
You said that you could tell me events in detail. So far, you are asking me to guess the answers to questions based on some vague bible passages.Be specific.
What is next? And what exactly does “very close” mean? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? (Or, in the case of the disciples who thought Jesus would return “soon”, millenia?)
Hi What is trueBefore Christ returns I had to first show you that the last days' prophesies are concerning Israel. Israel will be occupied by others again for the third time.
I only gave a few scriptures, for if I gave them all at once, this would turn into a 20 page reply. If I give you my own words, you will say I am making it up. Have to go slow.
In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,05:15) I only gave a few scriptures, for if I gave them all at once, this would turn into a 20 page reply. If I give you my own words, you will say I am making it up. Have to go slow.
I'm not asking for all the details. I am asking for one specific event, and a time frame. Otherwise, you are just giving vague horoscope nonsense that can mean anything when looked at in hindsight.One event. Narrow the time frame. Be specific.
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,03:54) Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,03:32) Exodus 4:24-26
And it came to pass on the way, at the encampment, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!” So He let him go. Then she said, “You are a husband of blood!”—because of the circumcision.No hurt child here, right? I am sure that an impromptu circumcision is like going out for an ice cream sundae.
Hi WIT,Right now, the only known prevention of cervical cancer in women
is the circumcision of those males having intercourse with them.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I think you should withdraw this claim and apologise to all the women reading this who have cervical cancer and have never had sex, or only had sex with circumcised men.Here are three ways you are wrong:
The vaccine Gardasil immunises against the human papillomavirus, which is responsible for 70% of cervical cancers, thus giving a much more effective preventative measure than any effect from circumcision.
Condoms are also very effective in preventing transmission of HPV, much more so than circumcision effects.
Circumcision makes no difference to cervical cancer rates in men who stick to one partner.
It isn't just evolution about which you are ignorant, in this case you believe something that is actively dangerous for people to follow.
Stuart
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