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- February 8, 2013 at 7:03 pm#332170Ed JParticipant
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 07 2013,18:48)
Or burned in sulfur as a punishment for being born human.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their sinfulness.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 9, 2013 at 7:33 am#332238charityParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,05:03) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 07 2013,18:48)
Or burned in sulfur as a punishment for being born human.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their sinfulness.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi ED,I watched these to movies on covered up past worlds
one is very stable an clear as Day
an the other one is un clear playing with the mind.February 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm#332269942767ParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2013,15:55) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2013,11:30) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 03 2013,20:20) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2013,13:28) Hi Stu: I did not say that I wanted what I posted from the book of Revelation to happen to you. You said that you wanted to overthrow God because you saw him as a dictator, and so, you have a right to try, but it foolishness for anyone to even think that He can overthrown. But from what I posted from the book of Revelation, there is going to be that attempt.
I don't know what human rights you want.
As I have stated, this is God's house, and those who do not want to come into the monarchy and live in his house forever, do not have to do so, but they cannot continue to live in His house practicing sin wilfully.
Love in Christ,
Marty
You coward.Stuart
Hi Stu:In what way am I a coward?
Here is a god that has cut up humanity by slaughter and slander, abusing human rights, claiming to judge us from a position of no moral authority, and promising to punish humans in burning sulfur, and you are making excuses for it.When it was people in wartime consorting with human dictators who carried on like this it was called collaborating.
You can't argue that christianity is moral. From what you are saying it looks like your ethical thinking is based on fear of the supposed consequences for you, and you don't feel any solidarity with your fellow human primates.
That's cowardice.
Stuart
Hi Stu:Perhaps you and your fellow human primates who feel as you do about God should watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ. Jesus stated: “he who has seen me has seen the Father.
I do not serve God because I fear being destroyed by fire, but because I have found that my life is a whole lot better as I learn to live by His principles, but if you think that being destroyed in the lake of fire is something that I would not fear, you are out of your mind. I am not stupid. Thank God, I don't have to worry about that.
Love in Christ,
MartyFebruary 9, 2013 at 10:43 pm#332286charityParticipantwithin.
for peace everyone must serve their inner goodness. Goodness is Goodness an righteousness.
I think the denominations striving for numbers Have made goodness into more of an action an confusing the Basic will to learn how to be personally Happy an satisfied as a trust worthy loving spirit in a vessel
February 11, 2013 at 1:32 pm#333136WakeupParticipantQuote (charity @ Feb. 10 2013,08:43) within. for peace everyone must serve their inner goodness. Goodness is Goodness an righteousness.
I think the denominations striving for numbers Have made goodness into more of an action an confusing the Basic will to learn how to be personally Happy an satisfied as a trust worthy loving spirit in a vessel
Charity.The churches have indeed blocked the sheep from coming.
They are greedy wolves,in sheeps clothing.
A stumbling block to the hungry in spirit.wakeup.
February 12, 2013 at 11:34 am#335370StuParticipantQuote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2013,00:40) Hi Stu: Perhaps you and your fellow human primates who feel as you do about God should watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ. Jesus stated: “he who has seen me has seen the Father.
I do not serve God because I fear being destroyed by fire, but because I have found that my life is a whole lot better as I learn to live by His principles, but if you think that being destroyed in the lake of fire is something that I would not fear, you are out of your mind. I am not stupid. Thank God, I don't have to worry about that.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Thanks for the recommendation, but I think I can do without the fanatical antisemitic Catholic fascism of the moronic Mel Gibson, thanks.So your life is better because you have decided to love a being that demands you do so, on pain of burning in sulfur?
I hope you will eventually be able to go from this “improvement” in your life to a further improvement, perhaps one that is a bit less immoral.
Stuart
February 13, 2013 at 3:57 am#335440942767ParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 12 2013,21:34) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2013,00:40) Hi Stu: Perhaps you and your fellow human primates who feel as you do about God should watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ. Jesus stated: “he who has seen me has seen the Father.
I do not serve God because I fear being destroyed by fire, but because I have found that my life is a whole lot better as I learn to live by His principles, but if you think that being destroyed in the lake of fire is something that I would not fear, you are out of your mind. I am not stupid. Thank God, I don't have to worry about that.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Thanks for the recommendation, but I think I can do without the fanatical antisemitic Catholic fascism of the moronic Mel Gibson, thanks.So your life is better because you have decided to love a being that demands you do so, on pain of burning in sulfur?
I hope you will eventually be able to go from this “improvement” in your life to a further improvement, perhaps one that is a bit less immoral.
Stuart
Hi Stu:I am just trying very hard to show you that your opinion of my God is totally wrong. Granted there are some things in the Old Testament that are difficult to understand, but Jesus through the life that he lived as shown us the character of God.
I'll try to clear up some of your misconceptions about the Old Testament by giving you a summary what was taking place and relating it to the New Testament.
God called the Nation of Israel out of Egypt and bondage to Pharoah which symbolizes the deliverance of every believer from the bondage of sin. When they were to be delivered, they were to offer a lamb without spot or blemish, and apply the blood of the lamb to the door posts of their home, and the death angel would pass over their house. Only the first born of Egypt then would die. The scripture in the New Testament, the gospel of John, states that in order for someone to enter into the kingdom of God, they must be born again. That happens when the blood of the Lord Jesus is applied to the doorpost of the heart of every believer.
In the OT God promised the Nation of Israel the land of Canaan, and this is symbolic of the new heaven and the new earth that God will give all of His children. All those who were faithful from the time of creation until the Lord comes for the church.
In the OT, God used the enemies of Israel to Chasten them when they rebelled or strayed from obeying His commandments. This was done inorder discipline then and get them to repent. In the OT, the enemies of Israel who remained their enemies were judged by God and destroyed. If they did not repent, they are dead, and will not be raised again to incur further judgment. In other words judgment has already occurred in the OT. This is probably where you are misunderstanding and forming your false impression of God. Every one who has ever lived has had the opportunity to repent and served God, and death is a reality whether one dies of cancer or some other way. God destroyed those who did not repent. He is the judge.
Genesis 3 describes the punishment that Adam and Eve and those who lived during his time until the flood incurred. They all had the opportunity to repent during this time. Enoch repented and was saved. Those in Noah's time who did not repent were destroyed by the flood.
Jesus stated:
Quote Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The ark of safety then was Noah's ark. The ark of safety now is the body of Christ, the true church. They who did not listen to Noah relative to his preaching about the coming flood were destroyed, and so, I am just trying my best to let you know that God loves you and does not want to destroy you or anyone, but this world is temporary, so that if one wants to continue in God's house, he is invited to do so.
You keep bringing up the incident of Uzzah, and so, I will tell you that the arc was supposed to be transported only by the Koahites in a certain manner, and God had instructed them that they were not to touch the arc under any circumstances. David was transporting the arc on a cart, and he was wrong in doing this. It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did.
And so, those in OT who did not repent have already been judged, and they are dead. In the NT, the gospel is being preached to every creature, and judgement will occur for those who are alive when Jesus comes for the church who are in their sins by the seven last plagues, and those who died in their sins prior to his coming for the church who lived from the time of his ministry on earth until he comes for the church will be raised from the dead to be judged according to thier works 1000 years after the church has been raptured from the earth, and they will be destroyed.
For me, it is a priviledge and honor to be a son of the Most High God. Once again, I do not serve Him because I fear destruction, but because I love Him. He has demonstrated His love for me through the giving of His Son to be the propitiation for my sins. I see this to be a real good deal.
I hope this helps.
Love in Christ,
MartyFebruary 13, 2013 at 10:41 am#335472StuParticipantQuote (942767 @ Feb. 13 2013,13:57) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 12 2013,21:34) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2013,00:40) Hi Stu: Perhaps you and your fellow human primates who feel as you do about God should watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ. Jesus stated: “he who has seen me has seen the Father.
I do not serve God because I fear being destroyed by fire, but because I have found that my life is a whole lot better as I learn to live by His principles, but if you think that being destroyed in the lake of fire is something that I would not fear, you are out of your mind. I am not stupid. Thank God, I don't have to worry about that.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Thanks for the recommendation, but I think I can do without the fanatical antisemitic Catholic fascism of the moronic Mel Gibson, thanks.So your life is better because you have decided to love a being that demands you do so, on pain of burning in sulfur?
I hope you will eventually be able to go from this “improvement” in your life to a further improvement, perhaps one that is a bit less immoral.
Stuart
Hi Stu:I am just trying very hard to show you that your opinion of my God is totally wrong.
How can an opinion be wrong?? An opinion may include factually incorrect assertions, but if you are going to deal in facts perhaps you should start with the question of existence before you tell me that my facts about your completely invisible and inaudible god are wrong.Quote Granted there are some things in the Old Testament that are difficult to understand, but Jesus through the life that he lived as shown us the character of God.
More platitudes. It’s all meaningless. It’s just as meaningless to you as to me, but your emotional investment in it means that it just has to have meaning regardless.Quote I'll try to clear up some of your misconceptions about the Old Testament by giving you a summary what was taking place and relating it to the New Testament. God called …
Hang on just a minute there, 90210. Are we going to be “Clearing up history” by you asserting the existence of your Imaginary Friend as a fact of history? It is just as valid for me to say that it doesn’t exist as it is for you to say that it does. Are you going to ask me to pretend your god exists for the purpose of you convincing me it is not evil?Quote …the Nation of Israel out of Egypt and bondage to Pharoah which symbolizes the deliverance of every believer from the bondage of sin.
Just as the existence of your god is not established, neither is the exodus. It is reasonable to claim as an archeological fact that the biblical exodus didn’t actually happen.Quote When they were to be delivered, they were to offer a lamb without spot or blemish, and apply the blood of the lamb to the door posts of their home, and the death angel would pass over their house. Only the first born of Egypt then would die. The scripture in the New Testament, the gospel of John, states that in order for someone to enter into the kingdom of God, they must be born again. That happens when the blood of the Lord Jesus is applied to the doorpost of the heart of every believer.
Your heart has a doorpost??Quote In the OT God promised the Nation of Israel the land of Canaan, and this is symbolic of the new heaven and the new earth that God will give all of His children. All those who were faithful from the time of creation until the Lord comes for the church. In the OT, God used the enemies of Israel to Chasten them when they rebelled or strayed from obeying His commandments. This was done inorder discipline then and get them to repent. In the OT, the enemies of Israel who remained their enemies were judged by God and destroyed. If they did not repent, they are dead, and will not be raised again to incur further judgment. In other words judgment has already occurred in the OT. This is probably where you are misunderstanding and forming your false impression of God. Every one who has ever lived has had the opportunity to repent and served God, and death is a reality whether one dies of cancer or some other way. God destroyed those who did not repent. He is the judge.
Genesis 3 describes the punishment that Adam and Eve and those who lived during his time until the flood incurred. They all had the opportunity to repent during this time. Enoch repented and was saved. Those in Noah's time who did not repent were destroyed by the flood.
Jesus stated:
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The ark of safety then was Noah's ark. The ark of safety now is the body of Christ, the true church. They who did not listen to Noah relative to his preaching about the coming flood were destroyed, and so, I am just trying my best to let you know that God loves you and does not want to destroy you or anyone, but this world is temporary, so that if one wants to continue in God's house, he is invited to do so.
But none of that is historically factual, of course. There has never been a global flood in the time humans have been on the planet, and it is pretty clear from scripture that Adam and Eve are the first people to be created, but there has never been a time of only two humans. So you are making conclusions about your god based on events that have never happened. Am I supposed to be impressed or feel educated by that? As for claiming to know what Jesus said, I think you can forget that. That puddle is so muddied by early writers and cheats that there is no clarity to be had at all.Quote You keep bringing up the incident of Uzzah, and so, I will tell you that the arc was supposed to be transported only by the Koahites in a certain manner, and God had instructed them that they were not to
touch the arc under any circumstances. David was transporting the arc on a cart, and he was wrong in doing this. It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did.
So, god just had to kill Uzzah when he was only trying to help. That is not a “merciful” being in ANY sense humans could understand. There is no moral lesson to be had from that, because so many christians would break the law if it contradicted their beliefs, and so many christians would say that it is right to help others. The only lesson is that this god will murder those who forget to follow his moronic and pointless commands. It’s not as if the arc was important to the survival or wellbeing of any human. It was just an imperial symbol of totalitarian dictatorship, something you would never tolerate in your country…if the arc existed at all.Quote And so, those in OT who did not repent have already been judged, and they are dead. In the NT, the gospel is being preached to every creature, and judgement will occur for those who are alive when Jesus comes for the church who are in their sins by the seven last plagues, and those who died in their sins prior to his coming for the church who lived from the time of his ministry on earth until he comes for the church will be raised from the dead to be judged according to thier works 1000 years after the church has been raptured from the earth, and they will be destroyed.
See what this nasty religion is doing to you? Here you are, an intelligent African primate with (as far as we know) a unique opportunity to comprehend something real about the universe, but instead you are filling your mind with this ancient Mesopotamian fantasy conspiracy theory.If you had been explaining some genuine misunderstanding I had about how scripture is commonly interpreted by christians I might have stood to learn something from you. But I haven’t. All you have done is confirmed that christianity is a fascist totalitarian belief system followed by what appears to me to be people too cowardly to question it, probably through infantile fear of consequences that don’t really exist.
Quote For me, it is a priviledge and honor to be a son of the Most High God. Once again, I do not serve Him because I fear destruction, but because I love Him.
I have great trouble believing you, given what you have typed above.Quote He has demonstrated His love for me through the giving of His Son to be the propitiation for my sins. I see this to be a real good deal.
I see this to be one of the most disgustingly immoral propositions, one that has led to much enmity between people and nations. Your scripture tells you almost nothing about you correcting your wrongdoing with your wronged neighbour, all it expects is that you will follow the rituals that will get you in good with this abominable god character, quite possibly for the most selfish of reasons. And all that is achieved by a human sacrifice.My spiritual peace doesn’t require anyone to have been nailed to anything.
Stuart
February 13, 2013 at 11:15 am#335477TimothyVIParticipantQuote (942767 @ Feb. 13 2013,13:57) You keep bringing up the incident of Uzzah, and so, I will tell you that the arc was supposed to be transported only by the Koahites in a certain manner, and God had instructed them that they were not to touch the arc under any circumstances. David was transporting the arc on a cart, and he was wrong in doing this. It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,
Stu took the time to respond to your entire post in very much the same way I might have if I had the literary skill.
However one thing stuck with me.You said
Quote It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Jeptha's daughter had to die because of what Jeptha did.
All women for eternity must suffer in childbirth because of what Eve did.
Uzzah had to die because David screwed up.I would like to ask you. Why does God always seem to punish the wrong people in order to make his examples?
Tim
February 13, 2013 at 11:28 am#335478charityParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,23:32) Quote (charity @ Feb. 10 2013,08:43) within. for peace everyone must serve their inner goodness. Goodness is Goodness an righteousness.
I think the denominations striving for numbers Have made goodness into more of an action an confusing the Basic will to learn how to be personally Happy an satisfied as a trust worthy loving spirit in a vessel
Charity.The churches have indeed blocked the sheep from coming.
They are greedy wolves,in sheeps clothing.
A stumbling block to the hungry in spirit.wakeup.
To true.Power Has always been achieved by…
Having the Facts an then destroying them in one way or another.February 13, 2013 at 11:52 am#335480charityParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 13 2013,21:15) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 13 2013,13:57) You keep bringing up the incident of Uzzah, and so, I will tell you that the arc was supposed to be transported only by the Koahites in a certain manner, and God had instructed them that they were not to touch the arc under any circumstances. David was transporting the arc on a cart, and he was wrong in doing this. It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,
Stu took the time to respond to your entire post in very much the same way I might have if I had the literary skill.
However one thing stuck with me.You said
Quote It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Jeptha's daughter had to die because of what Jeptha did.
All women for eternity must suffer in childbirth because of what Eve did.
Uzzah had to die because David screwed up.I would like to ask you. Why does God always seem to punish the wrong people in order to make his examples?
Tim
Oh I could never believe God could do such a thing… I think a crowd demands that some one shall be made responsible. In this case A Nation demands that a Nation is responsibleJesus died for because he was Killed. wither He rose again or Not. He was to be of More Power in the first temple. rather than vanished.
The Romans killed Him, the priests agreed, an all the whole Jewish Nation wears the whole blame it to this day. Hated.
What a blessing for the Romans an priests that God forgave them for cutting Jesus off from causing a revolution to return the throne an Jeruselem to the Jewish Nation. an get lost once an for all.
February 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm#335483charityParticipantYou Know Tim.
God has only ever got as Far as the Largest things said about him.
To All
sorry if that sounds Bad.But e has only ever been able to be what the human Mind is capable of blessing him with.
February 13, 2013 at 9:27 pm#335521WakeupParticipantQuote (charity @ Feb. 13 2013,21:52) Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 13 2013,21:15) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 13 2013,13:57) You keep bringing up the incident of Uzzah, and so, I will tell you that the arc was supposed to be transported only by the Koahites in a certain manner, and God had instructed them that they were not to touch the arc under any circumstances. David was transporting the arc on a cart, and he was wrong in doing this. It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,
Stu took the time to respond to your entire post in very much the same way I might have if I had the literary skill.
However one thing stuck with me.You said
Quote It is difficult to understand God killing Uzzah for touching the arc, but God made him an example to show that He meant what he said about touching it. It was actually David's fault for transporting the arc the way that he did. Jeptha's daughter had to die because of what Jeptha did.
All women for eternity must suffer in childbirth because of what Eve did.
Uzzah had to die because David screwed up.I would like to ask you. Why does God always seem to punish the wrong people in order to make his examples?
Tim
Oh I could never believe God could do such a thing… I think a crowd demands that some one shall be made responsible. In this case A Nation demands that a Nation is responsibleJesus died for because he was Killed. wither He rose again or Not. He was to be of More Power in the first temple. rather than vanished.
The Romans killed Him, the priests agreed, an all the whole Jewish Nation wears the whole blame it to this day. Hated.
What a blessing for the Romans an priests that God forgave them for cutting Jesus off from causing a revolution to return the throne an Jeruselem to the Jewish Nation. an get lost once an for all.
Charity.You must jewish,trying to pass on the buck,to the Romans.
1. Who paid Judas iscariot the 30pieces of silver?
2.Who was the ones shouting crucify him ,and let the blood be ON US AND OUR CHILDREN?They have cursed themselves,therefore the jewish persecutions.
3.Was Paul not a jew,working on behalf of the scribes and pharisees; persecuting the followers of Jesus?
Please answer.
wakeup.
February 13, 2013 at 9:34 pm#335523WakeupParticipantQuote (charity @ Feb. 13 2013,22:30) You Know Tim. God has only ever got as Far as the Largest things said about him.
To All
sorry if that sounds Bad.But e has only ever been able to be what the human Mind is capable of blessing him with.
Chaity.Not so.
The whole host of heaven glorifies him.
He can make the stones glorify him if he wants.
He does not need us;we need him.
We need him to even breathe.wakeup.
February 13, 2013 at 11:34 pm#335546charityParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2013,07:34) Quote (charity @ Feb. 13 2013,22:30) You Know Tim. God has only ever got as Far as the Largest things said about him.
To All
sorry if that sounds Bad.But e has only ever been able to be what the human Mind is capable of blessing him with.
Chaity.Not so.
The whole host of heaven glorifies him.
He can make the stones glorify him if he wants.
He does not need us;we need him.
We need him to even breathe.wakeup.
I dont believe the Jewish People Agree that God agree's that that the Roman empire should rule a their Land.Even Jesus failed to rise up the Kingdom of his Father David, as prophecy Had said.
You Have all the words from the Opressor Mouth, whom is Believes THE jewish God gave them rule over Jeruslem, an the disobedient children.
February 13, 2013 at 11:49 pm#335549charityParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2013,07:34) Quote (charity @ Feb. 13 2013,22:30) You Know Tim. God has only ever got as Far as the Largest things said about him.
To All
sorry if that sounds Bad.But e has only ever been able to be what the human Mind is capable of blessing him with.
Chaity.Not so.
The whole host of heaven glorifies him.
He can make the stones glorify him if he wants.
He does not need us;we need him.
We need him to even breathe.wakeup.
Atually yes.I come from a split Home,
I do have Jewish desendent sisters.
should I be In title to my Fathers will an estate?
Even if he cast out into the desert to keep the other mother of children from being Jealous?My Past may resemble some of the earliest emotions that created whole Nations needing to be under One God.
I understand my portion.
February 14, 2013 at 12:13 am#335550charityParticipant500 BC during Nehemiah rule, whom began rebuilding Jerusalem and purifying the Jewish community
SOLOMON The King of Jeruselem Son, was accused of causing the in pure Jewish Nation, where He Married foreign wives.
Stating he was creating the King of Heaven on earth.Nehemiah, threw forced Fathers to send their Wives an children that were Descendants of Solomon out of the Gates of Jeruslem.
(out skirts, where Mary was found)
He killed an riped Hair from the scalp to terrerize the new purification of breeding.
TO BE CONTINUED IF YOU YHINK SO
February 14, 2013 at 2:22 am#335569ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ Feb. 07 2013,21:42) Quote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2013,09:04) God created our immune system.
The immune system doesn't regrow limbs.
God also doesn't give us new teeth or motorbikes when we pray for them.
Good point. Why doesn't this god heal dental caries?Tell us more about this immune system theory of god healing. Perhaps you could give us the scripture that discusses it.
Stuart
Stu, God watches our back and often provides salvation regarding things that are out of our control.Usually he let's us look after the things that come our way. He may ultimately intervene and heal us, but he has designed our bodies to heal themselves, and he certainly give us strength of spirit when we need it.
It is not about God being some sugar daddy. Doesn't work like that in case you thought.
And the fact that we will eventually die means it is safe to assume that we will eventually die of something.
I know someone who has been diagnosed with cancer and he is only 34 years old. He may not have thought about God much, but in one way he is fortunate, because he has time to get his life right with God if he chooses. Many do not ever get that time because they die without warning.
I prefer to live for God so that God is with me too when I die. Not all choose to have faith in God. That is what free will is about. Not all choose God. That is the way it works and we have both decided for ourselves.
February 14, 2013 at 3:36 am#335594StuParticipantJust have to say…Go Charity!
Stuart
February 14, 2013 at 3:48 am#335595StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2013,12:22) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 07 2013,21:42) Quote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2013,09:04) God created our immune system.
The immune system doesn't regrow limbs.
God also doesn't give us new teeth or motorbikes when we pray for them.
Good point. Why doesn't this god heal dental caries?Tell us more about this immune system theory of god healing. Perhaps you could give us the scripture that discusses it.
Stuart
Stu, God watches our back
Constantly, like the ultimate police state.Quote and often provides salvation regarding things that are out of our control.
Huh?Quote Usually he let's us look after the things that come our way. He may ultimately intervene and heal us, but he has designed our bodies to heal themselves, and he certainly give us strength of spirit when we need it.
But never amputations or dental caries.Quote It is not about God being some sugar daddy. Doesn't work like that in case you thought.
Did I give you the impression I thought your god was a sugar daddy? Surely not!Quote And the fact that we will eventually die means it is safe to assume that we will eventually die of something.
But your god decides what, and when, right?Quote I know someone who has been diagnosed with cancer and he is only 34 years old. He may not have thought about God much, but in one way he is fortunate, because he has time to get his life right with God if he chooses. Many do not ever get that time because they die without warning.
Maybe there are more important things to do when you find out you have less life to go than you expected. Like being close to your family rather than hating them in order to get to god through following Jesus, as is recommended in Luke.Quote I prefer to live for God so that God is with me too when I die.
Why exactly is it important for you to be with your god then? That wouldn’t be for selfish reasons would it?Quote Not all choose to have faith in God. That is what free will is about. Not all choose God. That is the way it works and we have both decided for ourselves.
I don’t think that decision exists to be made, actually.Stuart
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