Are angels and spirits seperate creatures?

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  • #799217
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    Sorry about not reading your post carefully last night.

    #799218
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    I am not sure of the context of your last post.

    #799221
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    So how do marriages begin?

    Does a man just TAKE TO WIFE?

    #799223
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    Surely a mutual AGREEMENT is required if one is to be married?

    “taking to wife” does not cover it.

    #799233
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    There was probably a mutual agreement but women were given in marriage and men either did or did not take them. That is why Jesus used the words “given in marriage”. It is called an arranged marriage.

    #799240
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    So it is not the same.

    #799243
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    Marriages are marriages but there are different forms.

    Modern marriages in developed countries are not the marriages that occurred in Scripture. Some would claim they are non-scriptural because of that.

    The phrase “take a wife” has been adapted for modern marriages and now there is also a corresponding phrase “take a husband” though technically men have never been said to have been given in marriage.

    #799244
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    So do you think the rebellious angels in Gen 6 went through some sort of agreement process?

    #799255
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    I believes the sons of God found the daughters of mere men to be pleasing to their sight and then petitioned their parents to make a match between them and their parents did dispute their misgivings. It is a story that has been repeated many times. Judges 1:1-3 is an example when a son of the Most High found a daughter of mere men pleasing and petitioned his parents for such a marriage.

    Some claim the sons of God in Genesis are angels but they have no evidence to support that claim.

    The only place in Scripture angels are plainly called sons of God is the book of Job. The rest of the time the title refers to human beings. Deuteronomy 14:1 is an example.

    #799257
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    Who are the sons of God in Gen 6, Ps 89?

    God did not accept fatherhood to the sons of Adam.

    They did not have sonship by the Spirit and were of the god of this world

    #799258
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    Judges 1.1-3??

    #799259
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    Since angels are plainly called sons of God in Job why would you dispute that such use occurs elsewhere?

    #799260
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    What of Dan 3.25?

    Do you think the MAN in ez 9.11 and Ez 10 2 was a MAN?

    #799264
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    Ezekiel speaks of six males that are over the city of Jerusalem and they sound like angels.

    Daniel does record a pagan speaking of one looking like a son of God. The story of Job is based in the same region so it may have been more common in that culture to call angels sons of God.

    Thank you for the correction.

    #799265
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    Judges 14:1-3 gives the account. Sorry about my error.

    #799266
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    Both human beings and angels are called sons of God in Scripture.

    Luke 3:38 specifically says that “… Seth the son of Adam the son of God”. Son is not in the Koin Greek but translators of the AV of the KJV decided it was implied.

    The bottom line is that Jesus said believers would be like angels in that they would neither marry or be given in marriage.

    #799273
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    So perhaps the heavenly sons are not angels

    but the ELDERS of Revelation?

    #799274
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    We know archangels are angels, Chief angels.

    But have Seraphim and Cherubim similar roles on earth or do they reside in the throneroom of God?

    #799280
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    It is my impression that the elders of Revelations are human beings but yes they would also be called sons of God.

    The Seraphim and Cherubim have little to do with humanity in Scripture. Their roles seem to be in heaven or at the gates of Eden. They are God’s servants.

    #799281
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,

    So why do you think there are 24 humans in heaven?

    Who are they?

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