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Hi,
Here is the apostle's creed.
The Apostles' Creed
The basic creed of Reformed churches, as most familiarly known, is called the Apostles' Creed. It has received this title because of its great antiquity; it dates from very early times in the Church, a half century or so from the last writings of the New Testament.——————————————————————————–
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.He descended into hell. [See Calvin]
The third day He arose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy *catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.Amen.
Hi Nick:
This lines up with the scriptures, and pre-existence and the doctrine of trinity do not.
And so, yes if this lines up with the scriptures we should follow it.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2009,11:02) Hi 94,
Why not follow Christ and the scriptures?
Error is so deceitful and insidious.
Hi Nick:Whatever we believe and do should line up with the scriptures.
Hi Nick:
Quote As the Christian church spread throughout the Roman world in the first century, and as the first leaders died out, there was a practical need for local churches to have a basic statement of beliefs. As false teachers began to bring in strange ideas, Christians needed to know “Just what is it that we believe?” It is the same here on this forum where some strange doctrines and ideas try to filter in, and so, yes it does help if it lines up with the scriptures.
I copied the above quote from the following website:
Hi 94,
Creeds and even songs can stealthily incorporate traditional denominations doctrines.
As a Kid I use to love to sing as we left a Catholic service“faith of our fathers, living still despite all dungeon fire and sword
…
we will be true to thee till death, we will be true to thee till death”An inspiring song but just one of political denominational superiority.
I have repented of such foolish oaths.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,08:42) Hi 94,
Creeds and even songs can stealthily incorporate traditional denominations doctrines.
As a Kid I use to love to sing as we left a Catholic service“faith of our fathers, living still despite all dungeon fire and sword
…
we will be true to thee till death, we will be true to thee till death”An inspiring song but just one of political denominational superiority.
I have repented of such foolish oaths.
Hi Nick:I am glad that you repented if that is what you should have done.
And when I was a kid being brought up in the Catholic church, I used to mock relative to passing of the collection plate, saying “put a quarter in the collection plate and your sins are forgiven”.
I have definitely repented of singing that song. God also reminded me that I used to say this somewhere along the way after my conversion experience.
But the Apostle's Creed, as far as I can tell, pretty well summarizes what the bible teaches.
Anyway, I am just tired of the confusion that has crept into the church by doctrines such as the “trinity” and “pre-existence of Jesus” and some others, and that is why I brought it up.
Love in Christ,
Marty942767 said:
Quote But the Apostle's Creed, as far as I can tell, pretty well summarizes what the bible teaches. The Apostle's Creed in part is unbiblical and out of touch with reality. For instance, it says “I believe in the resurrection of the body”. This is not biblical. And the bugs eat the body before it can be resurrected. And the birds in turn eat the bugs. And other birds in turn eat them.
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 28 2009,04:52) 942767 said: Quote But the Apostle's Creed, as far as I can tell, pretty well summarizes what the bible teaches. The Apostle's Creed in in part unbiblical and out of touch with reality. For instance, it says “I believe in the resurrection of the body”. This is not biblical. And the bugs eat the body before it can be resurrected. And the birds in turn eat the bugs. And other birds in turn eat them.
thinker
Resurrection of the body of Christ.942767 said:
Quote Resurrection of the body of Christ. Marty,
This is an interesting twist on the Apostle's Creed. I hope you can verify that they were referring to the resurrection of the body of Christ. What historical evidence do you have for this?thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 28 2009,04:52) 942767 said: Quote But the Apostle's Creed, as far as I can tell, pretty well summarizes what the bible teaches. The Apostle's Creed in part is unbiblical and out of touch with reality. For instance, it says “I believe in the resurrection of the body”. This is not biblical. And the bugs eat the body before it can be resurrected. And the birds in turn eat the bugs. And other birds in turn eat them.
thinker
Greetings Thinker….The Apostles Creed (aka Nicene Creed)is in totality non scriptual….This creed was brought to for at the council of Nicea….The council was formed for the purpose of eradicating any resemblance of the early jewish christian church….we must not forget that the apostolic church pre nicea was replete with so called Jewish tradition and holy days….the truth be told…these early christians were torah believers (eg.Gods Holy Days as per Lev.23 )in conjunction with the Gospel of Jesus Christ…Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 01 2009,03:29) 942767 said: Quote Resurrection of the body of Christ. Marty,
This is an interesting twist on the Apostle's Creed. I hope you can verify that they were referring to the resurrection of the body of Christ. What historical evidence do you have for this?thinker
Hi thethinker:What evidence do you have that they meant the resurrection of the body of flesh? Aren't you assuming this?
I don't have any historical evidence, but only what the scriptures state regarding the resurrection of the dead in Christ.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi94,
Is that not the problem with creeds?
Nobody knows quite what they mean as the words do not carry sacred value.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2009,20:14) Hi94,
Is that not the problem with creeds?
Nobody knows quite what they mean as the words do not carry sacred value.
Hi Nick:The creed states that they believe in the resurrection of the body, and so do I, but it is the body of Christ.
Is there any thing else that this creed that you don't understand?
Love in Christ,
Marty
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