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Genesis 6, proclaims the mixing of angels with men. Even to the extent of having offspring. I've found studies on the subject, but for the most part the preaching of the same remains strangely quiet. I would think such a subject to be paramount to the christian faith. Can anyone speculate as to the elusiveness of it's teaching?
Welcome chapel247,
I think that you might find this interesting.http://www.sidroth.org/site….br=rad_
Enjoy,
KathiThis incident is spoken of in much greater detail in the Book of Enoch.
Quote (chapel247 @ April 26 2010,08:48) Genesis 6, proclaims the mixing of angels with men. Even to the extent of having offspring. I've found studies on the subject, but for the most part the preaching of the same remains strangely quiet. I would think such a subject to be paramount to the christian faith. Can anyone speculate as to the elusiveness of it's teaching?
Hi Chapel247,Welcome to the forum!
Are you affiliated with “The Sheppard's Chapel” in any way?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Chapel247. Welcome to the forum.
Iv often thought about this subject. A while back, a friend sent to me (and everyone else) a story of Giant skeletons found, the pictures were unreal. I was just trying to find them on the net but found out it was just a hoax (and she believed it!) (so did I)…
Hi chapel
It is the reason for this.
Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
All flesh was corrupt, had become hybrids.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Georg
Georg,
There is no real support for the doctrine of angel/human hybrids in scripture as it is not explicitly written.
Your idea that all human beings were hybrids leads to the logical conclusion that we today are hybrid angel/human being.
Was that your intent.
If so then perhaps we are also considered giants and the humans before were dwarfs.
Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,06:36) Georg, There is no real support for the doctrine of angel/human hybrids in scripture as it is not explicitly written.
Your idea that all human beings were hybrids leads to the logical conclusion that we today are hybrid angel/human being.
Was that your intent.
If so then perhaps we are also considered giants and the humans before were dwarfs.
Gen 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.Why did God save only Noah and his family?
Gen 6:9 ¶ These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
What does, perfect in his generation, mean?
Noah and his family were the only “pure” humans left.Gen 7:1 ¶ And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ April 27 2010,15:00) Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,06:36) Georg, There is no real support for the doctrine of angel/human hybrids in scripture as it is not explicitly written.
Your idea that all human beings were hybrids leads to the logical conclusion that we today are hybrid angel/human being.
Was that your intent.
If so then perhaps we are also considered giants and the humans before were dwarfs.
Gen 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.Why did God save only Noah and his family?
Gen 6:9 ¶ These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
What does, perfect in his generation, mean?
Noah and his family were the only “pure” humans left.Gen 7:1 ¶ And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Georg
georgNoah was perfect in the way s of the Lord,and found righteous.
as for all men were corrupt ,this only means just like Adam as corrupt himself by not seeking God righteousness.
so all means all except Noah family ,so all means not all like 100%,but all without the righteous ones.
George,
I find that the hypothosis that human and angels bred together to have children contradicts what Jesus taught when he inferred that angels do not marry and are given in marriage.
Never the less there was a mixing of two blood lines and the Nephilim, who were a large race of men, were the result.
According to scripture, the line of the Nephilim was not cut off by the Great Flood.
Numbers 13:33(NIV) reads:
Quote We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”
I am not sure but I believe that the decendants of Anak are one line of the sons of Caanan. I believe this because they lived in the land of Caanan.
Hi:
The sons of God mentioned here is the lineage of Seth who married the daughters of the lineage of Cain.
This scripture states that he offspring were men and not some sort of hybrids.
Quote Genesis 6:4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, andthey bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,16:14) George, I find that the hypothosis that human and angels bred together to have children contradicts what Jesus taught when he inferred that angels do not marry and are given in marriage.
Never the less there was a mixing of two blood lines and the Nephilim, who were a large race of men, were the result.
According to scripture, the line of the Nephilim was not cut off by the Great Flood.
Numbers 13:33(NIV) reads:
Quote We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”
I am not sure but I believe that the decendants of Anak are one line of the sons of Caanan. I believe this because they lived in the land of Caanan.
KWyou mixing godly servants of our God with the wicket angel who joint Satan ,
they did not get married for the purpose of God but to satisfy there own malefic desire,
the out come is similar wen you cross bread the donkey and a horse, you got a mule but there is no offspring to a mule.
and i think he is always male.Ge 6:1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,
Ge 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chosethe sons of God spoken here is not Adam offspring ,because they received orders from God to multiply and full the earth.
Terrarica wrote:
Quote You’re mixing godly servants of our God with the wicket angel who joint Satan.
They did not get married for the purpose of God, but to satisfy their own malefic desire,
Do you realize that you are implying that marriage is a sin? I state this because the difference between the angels of God and the angels of Satan is the later commits sin.
I can point to scripture that demonstrates that marriage is not a sin.
What I see is that angels, whether fallen or not, have no need or means to reproduce and neither will the transformed human being. It is our need to reproduce in order to multiply and full the earth that leads to God giving us the means to do so.
Terrarica wrote:
Quote The sons of God spoken here is not Adam offspring, because they received orders from God to multiply and full the earth.
It is true that God told the human race to multiply and full the earth but we also know two main bloodlines of the human race existed. One line was descended from Seth and the other was descended from Cain. In other scripture God forbids the godly from having sexual relations with the ungodly. The sons of Seth would be the godly line while the sons of Cain were the ungodly line. The godly are called sons of God.
Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,16:53) Terrarica wrote: Quote You’re mixing godly servants of our God with the wicket angel who joint Satan.
They did not get married for the purpose of God, but to satisfy their own malefic desire,
Do you realize that you are implying that marriage is a sin? I state this because the difference between the angels of God and the angels of Satan is the later commits sin.
I can point to scripture that demonstrates that marriage is not a sin.
What I see is that angels, whether fallen or not, have no need or means to reproduce and neither will the transformed human being. It is our need to reproduce in order to multiply and full the earth that leads to God giving us the means to do so.
Terrarica wrote:
Quote The sons of God spoken here is not Adam offspring, because they received orders from God to multiply and full the earth.
It is true that God told the human race to multiply and full the earth but we also know two main bloodlines of the human race existed. One line was descended from Seth and the other was descended from Cain. In other scripture God forbids the godly from having sexual relations with the ungodly. The sons of Seth would be the godly line while the sons of Cain were the ungodly line. The godly are called sons of God.
KWit is a sin to angel to take women of men to married ,this was not God intention and so not allowed.just if men corrupt them selves with animals and they did.
they also corrupt himself in a same way.
marriage in blood line is similar to what Paul as said marriage should in the Lord only,so with a believer not a unbeliever and we all know why,
Terraricca wrote:
Quote it is a sin to angel to take women of men to married ,this was not God intention and so not allowed. Just if men corrupt their selves with animals and they did.
They also corrupt themselves in a same way.
It is not written in scripture that it is a sin for a human being to marry an angel. It may be a form of bestiality as humans and angels are different kinds. Contradicting that is that angels do not even marry other angels and never have. That is the nature of their kind. It will also be the nature of the transformed human being.
Terraricca wrote:
Quote Marriage in blood line is similar to what Paul as said marriage should in the Lord only, so with a believer not a unbeliever and we all know why,
I believe that I agree with you though you though it is awkwardly worded.
Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,16:53) Terrarica wrote: Quote You’re mixing godly servants of our God with the wicket angel who joint Satan.
They did not get married for the purpose of God, but to satisfy their own malefic desire,
Do you realize that you are implying that marriage is a sin? I state this because the difference between the angels of God and the angels of Satan is the later commits sin.
I can point to scripture that demonstrates that marriage is not a sin.
What I see is that angels, whether fallen or not, have no need or means to reproduce and neither will the transformed human being. It is our need to reproduce in order to multiply and full the earth that leads to God giving us the means to do so.
Terrarica wrote:
Quote The sons of God spoken here is not Adam offspring, because they received orders from God to multiply and full the earth.
It is true that God told the human race to multiply and full the earth but we also know two main bloodlines of the human race existed. One line was descended from Seth and the other was descended from Cain. In other scripture God forbids the godly from having sexual relations with the ungodly. The sons of Seth would be the godly line while the sons of Cain were the ungodly line. The godly are called sons of God.
If you check your Bible, in the OT the sons of God are angels, and the sons of men are referred to as, sons of men.
What Jesus is saying in the following scriptures has nothing to do with Genesis.Luk 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Notice, Jesus is saying, the children “OF THIS WORLD” marry.
Luk 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
This is speaking of the “FIRST” resurrection, “THAT WORLD” is referring to the “SPIRIT WORLD”. All that come up in the first resurrection will be spirit beings.
Luk 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
God has created all races of the earth, he has never stood in the way of intermarriage; except that a believer should not marry an unbeliever.
If the sons of Cain was the ungodly line, and the sons of Seth the godly line; what were the daughters of the two lines?Georg
George wrote:
Quote If you check your Bible, in the OT the sons of God are angels, and the sons of men are referred to as, sons of men.
The only passages I know of where angels are referred to as “sons of God” are all in the book of Job. The writer of the book of Genesis is said to be different than the writer of the book of Job and even though they both were carried along by the Spirit they have different mannerisms.
As far as I can tell Moses, who is credited with writing the first five books of scripture, did not use the term “sons of gods” again in the book of Genesis. In Deuteronomy 14:1 he calls the Hebrew people “the children of the LORD your God”. If we believe Moses is consistent with his usage that is makes sense that he use the two similar terms in a like manner.
The godly angels would fall under the same generic classification as those whom received the law but I am not so sure of the ungodly ones. You are addressing ungodly angels.
George wrote:
Quote Notice, Jesus is saying, the children “OF THIS WORLD” marry.
Do you mean to infer that fallen angels are the children of this world and not of the spirit world?
George wrote:
Quote If the sons of Cain was the ungodly line, and the sons of Seth the godly line; what were the daughters of the two lines?
Looking at what Moses taught us in Deuteronomy 14:1 I would conclude that the daughters of Cain are also known as the daughters of man while the daughters of Seth can be called the daughters of God.
Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,18:05) Terraricca wrote: Quote it is a sin to angel to take women of men to married ,this was not God intention and so not allowed. Just if men corrupt their selves with animals and they did.
They also corrupt themselves in a same way.
It is not written in scripture that it is a sin for a human being to marry an angel. It may be a form of bestiality as humans and angels are different kinds. Contradicting that is that angels do not even marry other angels and never have. That is the nature of their kind. It will also be the nature of the transformed human being.
Terraricca wrote:
Quote Marriage in blood line is similar to what Paul as said marriage should in the Lord only, so with a believer not a unbeliever and we all know why,
I believe that I agree with you though you though it is awkwardly worded.
KW2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
2Pe 2:5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
this explain it
Quote (kerwin @ April 28 2010,12:48) George wrote: Quote If you check your Bible, in the OT the sons of God are angels, and the sons of men are referred to as, sons of men.
The only passages I know of where angels are referred to as “sons of God” are all in the book of Job. The writer of the book of Genesis is said to be different than the writer of the book of Job and even though they both were carried along by the Spirit they have different mannerisms.
As far as I can tell Moses, who is credited with writing the first five books of scripture, did not use the term “sons of gods” again in the book of Genesis. In Deuteronomy 14:1 he calls the Hebrew people “the children of the LORD your God”. If we believe Moses is consistent with his usage that is makes sense that he use the two similar terms in a like manner.
The godly angels would fall under the same generic classification as those whom received the law but I am not so sure of the ungodly ones. You are addressing ungodly angels.
George wrote:
Quote Notice, Jesus is saying, the children “OF THIS WORLD” marry.
Do you mean to infer that fallen angels are the children of this world and not of the spirit world?
George wrote:
Quote If the sons of Cain was the ungodly line, and the sons of Seth the godly line; what were the daughters of the two lines?
Looking at what Moses taught us in Deuteronomy 14:1 I would conclude that the daughters of Cain are also known as the daughters of man while the daughters of Seth can be called the daughters of God.
If scriptures can't teach you, use common sense and logic; what other possible reason could God have had to destroy his creation? He did not create humans to be half spirit.
If your reasoning is that he destroyed them because of their evil; what is keeping us alive?Georg
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