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    Spock
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    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter

    #354379
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.

    #354380
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter

    #354381
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.

    #354382
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spirit and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter

    #354383
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spirit and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    It is
    also possible that a person can be possessed
    by an evil spirit, pretending to be a good spirit.

    The angel moroni spoke to joseph smith,and told him to start a new church. He taught it was the holy spirit.
    Mohamad was visited by an angels ;and called himself Gabriel. But we know that was is an imposter.
    Because he contradicts Gods word.

    These things are still happening today,for many have come up, and call himself Christ. There is one in russia too.

    wakeup.

    #354384
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:00)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spir
    it and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    It is also possible that a person can be possessed
    by an evil spirit, pretending to be a good spirit.

    The angel moroni spoke to joseph smith,and told him to start a new church. He taught it was the holy spirit.
    Mohamad was visited by an angels ;and called himself Gabriel.  But we know that was is an imposter.
    Because he contradicts Gods word.

    These things are still happening today,for many have come up, and call himself Christ. There is one in russia too.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    Colter

    #354385
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:00)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spirit and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    It is also possible that a person can be possessed
    by an evil spirit, pretending to be a good spirit.

    The angel moroni spoke to joseph smith,and told him to start a new church. He taught it was the holy spirit.
    Mohamad was visited by an angels ;and called himself Gabriel.  But we know that was is an imposter.
    Because he contradicts Gods word.

    These things are still happening today,for many have come up, and call himself Christ. There is one in russia too.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1 Samuel 16:14 But **the Spirit of the LORD** departed from Saul, and **an evil spirit from the LORD** troubled him.

    1 Samuel 16:23 And it came to pass, when the **evil spirit from God** was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the **evil spirit** departed from him.

    wakeup.

    #354386
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:35)

    Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:00)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So none of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is
    here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spirit and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    It is also possible that a person can be possessed
    by an evil spirit, pretending to be a good spirit.

    The angel moroni spoke to joseph smith,and told him to start a new church. He taught it was the holy spirit.
    Mohamad was visited by an angels ;and called himself Gabriel.  But we know that was is an imposter.
    Because he contradicts Gods word.

    These things are still happening today,for many have come up, and call himself Christ. There is one in russia too.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1 Samuel 16:14   But **the Spirit of the LORD** departed from Saul, and **an evil spirit from the LORD** troubled him.

     1 Samuel 16:23   And it came to pass, when the **evil spirit from God** was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the **evil spirit** departed from him.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    That's the problem with the false religion that teaches that God wrote the Bible, people will believe the Most outrageous nonsense just because it's in there.

    God is not evil and never puts evil spirits in anyone, but it is true that primitive men once believed that.

    Jesus proved the OT concepts of God to be outdated.

    Colter

    #354387
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Colter, please stop quoting all the posts in a conversation. It makes the topic hard to read. Imagine if Urantopia was written that way and then know how annoying it is.

    #354388
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ June 01 2013,23:45)
    Colter, please stop quoting all the posts in a conversation. It makes the topic hard to read. Imagine if Urantopia was written that way and then know how annoying it is.


    Ok, I will

    Thanks

    #354389
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,21:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:35)

    Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:00)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,22:08)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,13:13)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,00:45)
    Ezekiel 1:6

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.

    The Transporters

    (438.3) 39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

    (438.4) 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

    (438.5) 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators — friction shields.

    (438.6) 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

    (438.7) 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

    (439.1) 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

    (439.2) 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

    (439.3) 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. UB

    Colter


    Wow Colter;is that how jesus went up, then down;then up
    to heaven again?
    None of the men saw Jesus going up to heaven the way the ub describes it.
    That looks more like technology,rather than spiritual.

    wakeup.


    Jesus resurrected a likeness of himself only in the Morantia form, which is spirit. So n
    one of the men could see him coming or going anywhere. He would simply appear and then disappear.

    Then after Jesus had passed through the mansion worlds as we will, he pored out his spirit upon all flesh, it is here now amoung us.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How do we know the spirit is here now,
    since he is invisible.

    wakeup.


    You may not know him but those of us born of the spirit can perceive the spirit presence of the Father and now the Son and Father combined in one gift.

    If you sincerely surrender to the spirit and ask for guidance he will reveal himself to you.

    You must have faith in the unseen God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    It is also possible that a person can be possessed
    by an evil spirit, pretending to be a good spirit.

    The angel moroni spoke to joseph smith,and told him to start a new church. He taught it was the holy spirit.
    Mohamad was visited by an angels ;and called himself Gabriel.  But we know that was is an imposter.
    Because he contradicts Gods word.

    These things are still happening today,for many have come up, and call himself Christ. There is one in russia too.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1 Samuel 16:14   But **the Spirit of the LORD** departed from Saul, and **an evil spirit from the LORD** troubled him.

     1 Samuel 16:23   And it came to pass, when the **evil spirit from God** was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the **evil spirit** departed from him.

    wakeup.


    It is truly sad and pathetic to hear someone who really believes that God sends evil spirits to trick his children.

    That's the problem with the false religion that teaches that God wrote the Bible, people will believe the Most outrageous nonsense just because it's in there.

    God is not evil and never puts evil spirits in anyone, but it is true that primitive men once believed that.

    Jesus proved the OT concepts of God to be outdated.

    Colter


    Colter>

    Have you ever read the book of Job,how God let satan have his way with job? Or is that also nonsense to you?
    You have rejected most of the bible,and you can say You are a believer in God and Christ?

    Luke 10:22.No man knows the son but the father;and no man knows the father;but the son.—
    So you dont know what you are worshipping.
    You are worshipping your imaginary God,and Jesus.

    wakeup.

    #354390
    Spock
    Participant

    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter

    #354391
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.

    #354392
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter

    #354393
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter


    Colter.

    James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of *Job*, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    Colter I know you wil reject this also.
    Anything that does not suit you,you cast it into the garbage.

    So you are going your own way,that leads to distruction.
    At least you can say that you did it your way.

    wakeup.

    #354394
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:06)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter


    Colter.

    James 5:11   Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of *Job*, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    Colter I know you wil reject this also.
    Anything that does not suit you,you cast it into the garbage.

    So you are going your own way,that leads to distruction.
    At least you can say that you did it your way.

    wakeup.


    I'm going the way of my Father in heaven, I trust and worship him, not fetishes or idols.

    Colter

    #354395
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,03:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:06)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter


    Colter.

    James 5:11   Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of *Job*, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    Colter I know you wil reject this also.
    Anything that does not suit you,you cast it into the garbage.

    So you are going your own way,that leads to distruction.
    At least you can say that you did it your way.

    wakeup.


    I'm going the way of my Father in heaven, I trust and worship him, not fetishes or idols.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1.You say the ub in not the word of God.
    2.The bible can not be trusted; its corrupt.
    3.You should write your own book,and follow that.
    4. So you can worship yourself,and feel good and secure.

    wakeup.

    #354396
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,09:47)

    Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,03:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:06)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter


    Colter.

    James 5:11   Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of *Job*, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    Colter I know you wil reject this also.
    Anything that does not suit you,you cast it into the garbage.

    So you are going your own way,that leads to distruction.
    At least you can say that you did it your way.

    wakeup.


    I'm going the way of my Father in heaven, I trust and worship him, not fetishes or idols.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1.You say the ub in not the word of God.
    2.The bible can not be trusted; its corrupt.
    3.You should write your own book,and follow that.
    4. So you can worship yourself,and feel good and secure.

    wakeup.


    God writes his laws on my heart, I “follow that”, I am secure in Gods presence, his watch-care, his living word. Why would I write a book about what I think, I am not God.

    Colter

    #354397
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,10:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,09:47)

    Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,03:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:06)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:45)

    Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:18)
    The Book of Job is a poem that contains meaning. It has several authors.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Where does it say that?
    That is only your opinion.
    God is teaching us great things in the book of job,
    that you have not discovered.

    wakeup.


    Where does the Book of Job say that God wrote it ? NOWHERE!

    This is how it worked, the priest would write a book, or rewrite an old book and then claim it was “Gods Word”, If you challenged them the penalty was death. No much in the way of scholorship in a world like that. :D

    Colter


    Colter.

    James 5:11   Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of *Job*, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    Colter I know you wil reject this also.
    Anything that does not suit you,you cast it into the garbage.

    So you are going your own way,that leads to distruction.
    At least you can say that you did it your way.

    wakeup.


    I'm going the way of my Father in heaven, I trust and worship him, not fetishes or idols.

    Colter


    Colter.

    1.You say the ub in not the word of God.
    2.The bible can not be trusted; its corrupt.
    3.You should write your own book,and follow that.
    4. So you can worship yourself,and feel good and secure.

    wakeup.


    God writes his laws on my heart, I “follow that”, I am secure in Gods presence, his watch-care, his living word. Why would I write a book about what I think, I am not God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    That can not be the God of abraham;isaac;jacob,
    and also the God of Jesus.
    Because Gods commandments are in the old testament
    and jesus taught us the new law of which you have rejected.

    So the commandments written in your heart would be
    do to others as they do unto you,and more so.
    This is the new age mentality.
    Keep the cup clean on the outside,for no one will see the inside.

    wakeup.

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