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- July 9, 2008 at 4:05 am#96550chosenoneParticipant
The title pretty much sums it up.
Is anything of Man? So much is made up of how we are to behave, what we must do, and what we must not do.
Is anything up to us? Can we do anything to save ourselves?
No, all is of God. Anyone believe in their own ability?July 9, 2008 at 5:26 am#96565chosenoneParticipantAfter many years, my walk with God has taken me many miles, some pleasant, some unpleasant. In trying to find the truth of God, I found that not only could I not find God by my efforts, but that God had been directing my paths all along. He has revealed to me, and many others, that it was not what I did that would put me in favour with God, but what He (God) has and is doing with me (and all of us). I have concluded, and this not of myself, that “All is of God”.
I can best expain this by comparing Gods work with us as a “play”. God is the Author, and “Creation” is the name of the play, and the earth is the stage, we are the actors.
All is predestined, God has planned the begining to the ending. A good explanaion of this is the the first chapter of “Ephesians”, God is perfecting all mankind for the glorious “consummation”, when God will be “All in all”.
So you see, all mankind, us actors, have been assigned a script, prepared by God, the author, what role we should play. Some are wicked, some are murderers, some decietfull, some good, some sickley, and others healthy. Some rich and some poor. You see “All is of God”.
I know some will think I have drunk too much wine, and my mind is cloudy. But nevertheless, this is how I see it. It is the good Lord working in me that has given me this revelation. All mankind will be saved. 1.Tim.4:9-11 …that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind.God Bless.
July 9, 2008 at 6:06 am#96575gollamudiParticipantHi brother Jerry,
You are like the famous wiseman king Solomon who wrote the book “The Ecclesiastes”.
Wonderful thoughts on human life and the God who is in full control of his life.
Thanks and blessings
AdamJuly 9, 2008 at 6:18 am#96578NickHassanParticipantHi Gm,
Wake up bro.
Just another salesman seeking other ways to sell his dodgy product.July 9, 2008 at 6:29 am#96582gollamudiParticipantYou funny..
July 9, 2008 at 6:00 pm#96609chosenoneParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 09 2008,18:18) Hi Gm,
Wake up bro.
Just another salesman seeking other ways to sell his dodgy product.
Nick.
Nothing for sale, nothing to buy…Just scripture.“God hardens all, that He may have mercy on all.”
July 9, 2008 at 7:00 pm#96619NickHassanParticipantHi,
Indeed the mercy of God abounds to all every day.
He sends His rain on the wicked and the just.But universalism is snake oil.
July 9, 2008 at 7:47 pm#96624chosenoneParticipantI can't recall any scripures saying that “the Saviour of all mankind” (1Tim.4:9-11) is snake oil. One shouldn't take Gods word in this light.
July 9, 2008 at 11:30 pm#96661NickHassanParticipantHi ,
1Tim4
6If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.7But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
8For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.
9This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
11These things command and teach.
Remind the brethren, not teach the pagans.
God saves every day sending his rain on the just and the unjust.July 10, 2008 at 12:54 am#96673chosenoneParticipantRepeat …”Who is the Saviour of ALL mankind”.
July 10, 2008 at 2:03 pm#96758dirtyknectionsParticipantQuote (chosenone @ July 10 2008,12:54) Repeat …”Who is the Saviour of ALL mankind”.
My brother Jerry…My brother Jerry..you have to read the complete bible my brother..not just one scripture…Is that the only possible meaning of this scripture? That all will be saved..none will see gehenna?…all the judgement talk in the bible is symbolic and means nothing?
I'll try to make this simple….
What is this scripture saying that mankind has been saved from?
What does the term “mankind” mean in this scripture?
Research the answer to these two scriptures and you will see my brother?
July 10, 2008 at 2:30 pm#96760gollamudiParticipantSo brother DK, do you think God is not the savior of man-kind then who else is that great person?
July 10, 2008 at 2:49 pm#96764dirtyknectionsParticipantQuote (gollamudi @ July 11 2008,02:30) So brother DK, do you think God is not the savior of man-kind then who else is that great person?
Hey Brother GM…God is indeed the savior..John 3:16…
But the question is will ALL mankind be saved…and none see gehenna?
I say that is categorically false…Those who choose to follow the ruler of this world, will see Gehenna..those who follow Christ will see life…simple and plain…
no eternal torment..simply destruction..a ceasing to exist for opposers of GOD…
Heaven or Paradise earth (still praying on this) for followers of Christ and worshippers of GOD..
July 10, 2008 at 2:51 pm#96766dirtyknectionsParticipantLet me add..another question is:
Is GOD going to save ALL mankind..or did he provide the way so that all who are worthy will be saved?
July 10, 2008 at 2:53 pm#96767gollamudiParticipantI think both seem to be OK for me if the One saves is God the merciful one.
July 10, 2008 at 3:08 pm#96770dirtyknectionsParticipantQuote (gollamudi @ July 11 2008,02:53) I think both seem to be OK for me if the One saves is God the merciful one.
I agree…but he only saves those who do his will and follow him..not all do according to scriptureJuly 10, 2008 at 7:44 pm#96799NickHassanParticipantHi,
Why would the writer of Hebrews 4 plead that we try to enter the REST if we never had to obey?July 11, 2008 at 12:18 am#96841dirtyknectionsParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2008,07:44) Hi,
Why would the writer of Hebrews 4 plead that we try to enter the REST if we never had to obey?
Good PointJuly 11, 2008 at 12:32 am#96844chosenoneParticipantQuote (dirtyknections @ July 11 2008,03:08) Quote (gollamudi @ July 11 2008,02:53) I think both seem to be OK for me if the One saves is God the merciful one.
I agree…but he only saves those who do his will and follow him..not all do according to scripture
“God is operating ALL in accord with the councel of HIS WILL”. (Eph.1:11)So… If Gods will is opposed to our will, whos' will will prevail?
The answer is obvious.
Blessings.
July 11, 2008 at 1:52 am#96852NickHassanParticipantHi,
So the bridesmaids should stay alert with their oil in plenty. - AuthorPosts
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