Adam and eve were the first flesh

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Adam and Eve were the first flesh creatures God had created.
That is done.That is finished.Completed.

Now God is at work creating the spirit.
He send His Son to do the job.
The son has sown the seed.
The spirit of man needs replacing.
Only His teachings can do that.
The spirit of the desires of the flesh,which is evil continuesly.

It needs to be replaced by the spirit according to Christ.
This is the new creation in process; still going on today.
The creation of the spirit in man.

A new creature is being moulded into the image of the Son.
In the case of Jesus; He is the first finished product.He is the first creation of the dead.

We in Christ are still in the production line.
Still going through the conveyer belt,as I speak.
When the process is finished;many will come out of the
production line.

So God had to createthe flesh first,in his process.
First; the flesh creatures.This is done.accomplished.
Second; spirit creatures;this is still in process,and will end soon. The finish product will be like Christ.

Will be as the angels in heaven. There will be many rejects,
and seconds. The seconds will be put back through the process.Their childrens children will be taught for a thousand years. These are the left over gentiles children.
For their parents have taken the mark.

The difference is that we have gone through the process of pains and sorrows in the flesh.Not so with the angels.
This was Gods plan from the beginning.

wakeup.

May 19, 2014 at 9:22 pm#382979

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Hi WU,
The Spirit given is with our spirit till we die.
Rom 8.16

rejects and seconds get another chance?

This is a new teaching?

May 19, 2014 at 9:32 pm#382982

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2014,08:22)

Hi WU,
The Spirit given is with our spirit till we die.
Rom 8.16

rejects and seconds get another chance?

This is a new teaching?

Nick.

You can disagree with all I say,that is your choice.
No need for stones.

The seconds are christians that survived armageddon,and have the mark. Their children will have a chance.

wakeup.

May 19, 2014 at 9:38 pm#382984

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Hi WU,
So where does scripture speak about these who are saved with the mark?

May 19, 2014 at 9:39 pm#382985

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Hi WU,
All are not in Christ
You must be clothed in Christ in baptism

May 19, 2014 at 9:50 pm#382991

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2014,08:39)

Hi WU,
All are not in Christ
You must be clothed in Christ in baptism

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

These are the christians I am speaking of.
Some of them will survive armageddon.
Their children will have a chance.

wakeup.

May 19, 2014 at 9:55 pm#382995

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Hi WU,
No connection there.
Any scriptural support

May 20, 2014 at 10:08 am#383108

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2014,08:38)

Hi WU,
So where does scripture speak about these who are saved with the mark?

Them with the mark will not be saved.
But there will be some that survive armageddon.

Revelation 9:18 By these three was
***the third part of men killed***,
by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

All the armies will die on top of the one third.

Not all gentiles will die; some will survive.
Some fallen away christians will also survive.
These will be the seconds. Only their children and childrens children,will have a chance to learn.

wakeup.

May 20, 2014 at 11:57 am#383114

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wakeup

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any scriptures for this view please enlighten me

May 21, 2014 at 5:41 am#383245

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Quote (terraricca @ May 20 2014,22:57)

wakeup

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any scriptures for this view please enlighten me

You surprise me Terra.
I have explained it as simple as possible.
And you ask for scriptures?

Is your old spirit to be replaced by the spirit of Christ?Y/N
Is that not what the scripture is all about? Y/N

Are we not perfect in Christ;
after the desires of the flesh is no more?

Is God not working toward changing the spirit of man?
To make them Holy?

wakeup.

May 21, 2014 at 9:31 am#383257

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Hi WU,
No He is giving them A NEW SPIRIT

May 21, 2014 at 11:39 am#383271

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2014,11:41)

Quote (terraricca @ May 20 2014,22:57)

wakeup

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any scriptures for this view please enlighten me

You surprise me Terra.
I have explained it as simple as possible.
And you ask for scriptures?

Is your old spirit to be replaced by the spirit of Christ?Y/N
Is that not what the scripture is all about? Y/N

Are we not perfect in Christ;
after the desires of the flesh is no more?

Is God not working toward changing the spirit of man?
To make them Holy?

wakeup.

i would understand it better if you tell me what the spirit is ,

then it would all make sens or not ,

May 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm#383312

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Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2014,22:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2014,11:41)

Quote (terraricca @ May 20 2014,22:57)

wakeup

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any scriptures for this view please enlighten me

You surprise me Terra.
I have explained it as simple as possible.
And you ask for scriptures?

Is your old spirit to be replaced by the spirit of Christ?Y/N
Is that not what the scripture is all about? Y/N

Are we not perfect in Christ;
after the desires of the flesh is no more?

Is God not working toward changing the spirit of man?
To make them Holy?

wakeup.

i would understand it better if you tell me what the spirit is ,

then it would all make sens or not ,

The spirit of man(not speaking of the breath of life),
is evil continously. Always want and get.
Always more to get.
Always the material and pleasures.
Always I, me, and myself first.
Always take,and hate to give.

Make war and kill to get more.
Oppress the poor and needy,for own gain.
Not to consider God,for he is only in the way of
our progress.

wakeup.

May 21, 2014 at 6:49 pm#383337

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Hi WU,
The heart of men can be evil but their spirits are of God.

Do you ever encourage anyone or is judgement all you know?

May 21, 2014 at 10:49 pm#383371

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2014,22:41)

Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2014,22:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2014,11:41)

Quote (terraricca @ May 20 2014,22:57)

wakeup

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any scriptures for this view please enlighten me

You surprise me Terra.
I have explained it as simple as possible.
And you ask for scriptures?

Is your old spirit to be replaced by the spirit of Christ?Y/N
Is that not what the scripture is all about? Y/N

Are we not perfect in Christ;
after the desires of the flesh is no more?

Is God not working toward changing the spirit of man?
To make them Holy?

wakeup.

i would understand it better if you tell me what the spirit is ,

then it would all make sens or not ,

Make war and kill to get more.
Oppress the poor and needy,for own gain.
Not to consider God,for he is only in the way of
our progress.

wakeup.

wup

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The spirit of man(not speaking of the breath of life),
is evil continously. Always want and get.
Always more to get.

this is false ; and it does not answer my question ;WHAT IS THE SPIRIT

May 21, 2014 at 11:07 pm#383382

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If you can not understand my simple reply;so be it.
There is nothing I can do. Your eyes needs to be opened,
really.

wakeup.

May 22, 2014 at 11:17 pm#383585

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,05:07)

If you can not understand my simple reply;so be it.
There is nothing I can do. Your eyes needs to be opened,
really.

wakeup.

wakeup

see how you run away ,so you do not have to explain or show scriptures ,

and say no one can prove me wrong ;you can not even prove yourself right ,

if you cannot prove yourself right this mean you are wrong sonny

May 23, 2014 at 12:08 am#383612

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Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,10:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,05:07)

If you can not understand my simple reply;so be it.
There is nothing I can do. Your eyes needs to be opened,
really.

wakeup.

wakeup

see how you run away ,so you do not have to explain or show scriptures ,

and say no one can prove me wrong ;you can not even prove yourself right ,

if you cannot prove yourself right this mean you are wrong sonny

I am not running from nothing.
I have explained the spirit of man,
but you can not pick it up.

Man is greedy and selfish,and full of lust.
If you can not understand that;then so be it.

wakeup.

May 23, 2014 at 12:35 am#383623

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2014,06:08)

Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,10:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,05:07)

If you can not understand my simple reply;so be it.
There is nothing I can do. Your eyes needs to be opened,
really.

wakeup.

wakeup

see how you run away ,so you do not have to explain or show scriptures ,

and say no one can prove me wrong ;you can not even prove yourself right ,

if you cannot prove yourself right this mean you are wrong sonny

I am not running from nothing.
I have explained the spirit of man,
but you can not pick it up.

Man is greedy and selfish,and full of lust.
If you can not understand that;then so be it.

wakeup.

wup

scriptures says that there are righteous men

June 3, 2014 at 6:32 pm#386684