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Hi SOL,
The word GODHEAD appears only in KJV bibles, occurs 3 times and is derived from 3 different greek words and relates to divine nature, not a multiple personality God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,20:51) Hi SOL,
The word GODHEAD appears only in KJV bibles, occurs 3 times and is derived from 3 different greek words and relates to divine nature, not a multiple personality God.
yes i know.we are part of that divine nature as reborn sons. we are part of the pleroma of the Godhead.
By which the whole family in heaven are named.
Hi,
A Son of man, the second Adam, died for men.
Heb 10
10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
The Son of man will also judge men.
God is fair.Hi WJ,
We could do with an update on this passage from you indicating how it supports a trinity God.Don't know if it's my place to post in that sense that I will not label myself anti-trinitarian or trinitarian. I do not believe God is three, I believe God is in every and anything he so chooses.
Yet I do not believe Jesus is apart from God. I believe he is of God and begotten in the same. (Paradoxical)
You should not only post one verse, you need to post the surrounding verse so you can understand the context of what is being said.
36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
I thought only God was lord of all? Yet it says Jesus is. So it seems this man, is heir to everything that is God's, so if he can own and do everything God can do, he too is God. Although he is not YHVH himself, he is apart of the Godhead especially since we know that he was begotten by YHVH
37That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Before this annointing Jesus turned water into wine. So this doesn't take away from the fact that Jesus was God in flesh, in fact it supports it.
You see, prior to the annointing with the Holy Spirit, Jesus still had “powers” his Godly powers, it's evident when he turned the water into win for the wedding, and it was said he even prophesied as a child that he would be murdered with the two theives he saw run into an alley after they stole something (same two theives he was crucified with).
So his annointing didn't give him extra powers or abilities, it was the annointing of his messianic mission/ministries.
The way God worked in Jesus was basically, “whatever I do to you, I so too will do to mankind.”
So Jesus had to be the first in all things before we could receive anything.
So he had to be the first to receive annointing and the holy ghost from YHVH himself before we were able to receive those gifts.
In the same light that, he had to die for (our) sins, and then be ressurected in the same manner we will all die because of our sins, but then be ressurected unto the Lord.
Just cause WJ, and TT and others don't respond to you, does not make you right. Only God is right.
Hey Rokkaman
Quote and it was said he even prophesied as a child that he would be murdered with the two theives he saw run into an alley after they stole something (same two theives he was crucified with). Where did you get this from?
I never heard of this story beforeQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,14:44) Hi Oxy,
Both words are acceptable translations.
to who, mankind or God?
If YHVH spoke of the Holy Spirit as HE, and Jesus did so too..then it is not acceptable to call him an it.Has nothing to do with perceived respect or not, how the heck would you even know? You didn't write it, nor live in the times when it was written.
So if Jesus and YHVH personalize The Holy Spirit, then The Holy Spirit is just as alive as you and me.
Plus the bible explicitely states if you offend the holy spirit you are blaspheming.
I thought you can only blaspheme God?
Well if offending the Holy Spirit is blasphemy, then The Holy Spirit is God.And I don't think God is an it.
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 18 2010,22:04) Hey Rokkaman Quote and it was said he even prophesied as a child that he would be murdered with the two theives he saw run into an alley after they stole something (same two theives he was crucified with). Where did you get this from?
I never heard of this story before
Wikipedia!!! lol j/kTruthfully I cannot say if it's accurate or even true. It's not in the bible, so anything not written in the word has to be taken with a grain of salt even if it's true.
My christian brother who passed away 6 months ago told it to me when I was younger. I don't remember his sources but i'm sure it was from something equivelant to the dead sea scrolls or books that weren't accepted into the bible.
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But to prove my point, The turning the water into wine alone should show he had abilities before his annointing.
His mother Mary must of known very well in his capabilities because it was almost like ” Jesus hurry up and turn the water into wine, we have none for the wedding”
and Jesus was like ” but mom, you know i'm not suppose to do this, I'm not suppose to show my powers until my time of annointing”
and she's like, “Joshua you listen to your mom right now!”
and he's like ” awww man, *poof* *water turns to wine…
lol
Hi RM,
So you agree the miracles of Jesus were from his anointing by his God.Everything else should be clear because he did not anoint himself and before that anointing he did not have such power.
” without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater'[Heb7.7]
To All,
There is nothing incredible about the miracles and other 'special' things that Jesus did…
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Did Jesus not, himself, say, 'If you had Faith as much as the tiniest seed, you could say to the mountain, ''fall into the sea'' and it would do'.Did Peter not 'Walk on the water' because he had Faith 'for a few moments'
Were not many people Healed because they had 'Faith'?
But not just faith alone. Jesus was infused with the Holy Spirit because he was sinless.
Because man is sinful, he does not and cannot be infused with the full power of the Holy Spirit but only 'by measure'. Add to that the lack of Faith and belief in the One of from whom all power and authority comes, God Almighty, YHVH.
Hi JA,
No the members of Christ's body cannot be the head.
Each is given grace according to their appointed spiritual roles[1cor12]
But doubt disables the supply of grace and men become weak and helpless again.[Jas1]Quote (JustAskin @ June 22 2010,08:25) Nick,
Which verse is that?
HI JustAskin, (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)Heb.7:6-7 But he (Melchizedek) whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham,
and blessed him that had the promises. And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
Gen.14:18-20 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
And he (Melchizedek) blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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