'Abomination of Desolation' – setting the record straight on what it is

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Hi Ed and Mia:

Just because the prophecy in Ezekiel was a year for each day does not mean that it means that in every prophecy. The abomination of desolation happens just prior will usher in the “great tribulation” and that has not occurred as yet.

This is the scripture:

Matthew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And:

Approximately 45 days into the this tribulation period the body of Christ, the church, will be caught away to meet the Lord in the air:

Daniel 12:

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days

Matthew 24:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

When God intervenes for the sake of Israel in the events described in Ezekiel 38 there will be a seven peace treaty and the Jerusalem temple will be rebuilt and the Jews that don’t believe that Jesus is the Messiah will begin offering animal sacrifices again, and 3 1/2 years into this period the Anti-Christ will stop them from offering these sacrifices 1290 days later the abomination desolation will occur and 45 days later the event commonly called he rapture will occur. 1290 plus 45 days = 1335 days.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Ed J]

Hi Marty,

Did you watch the video?
I suggest that you do!

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God bless
Ed J

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Hi Ed:

I watched most of the video, but it not the first time that I have heard this teaching.

I have given you what I believe that God has taught me through his Word.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Ed J]

Matthew 24:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Hi Marty,

The Apostle Peter suggests that this all occurred at “Pentecost”!

“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,
before that great and notable day of the Lord come” (Acts 2:20)

Of course both you and Miia are free to believe whatever you want

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi Ed:

I watched most of the video, but it not the first time that I have heard this teaching.

I have given you what I believe that God has taught me through his Word.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Marty,

Both Prophecies line up perfectly – “each day for a year” – which is what God said

“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2 Peter 1:19)

Of course if you choose not to take heed, that is your choice to make

[Ed J]

Hi Ed:

I have given you what I believe that God has taught me through his Word.

Hi Marty,

You, Miia, Joseph Smith, and the next guy,
BUT God requires that we compare what people teach to his word.
That I why I will continue to post God’s word – which stands in contradiction to what you teach.

“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,
in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,
and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” (Acts 17:11)

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi Miia,

Could you please highlight the part that actually answers my question

Hi Miia,

You say no, you can not highlight just one part – Because
what you posted does not answer my question – that’s why!

1) What happened 1,290 days before
2) What happened 1,260 days after

When you have answered these questions
we can see if your answers have any merit.

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God bless
Ed J

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Hi Ed:

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Hi Marty,

The Apostle Peter suggests that this all occurred at “Pentecost”!

“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,
before that great and notable day of the Lord come” (Acts 2:20)

Of course both you and Miia are free to believe whatever you want

My comments:

Your opinion is that the Apostle Peter suggests that this occurred at Pentecost, but that is not my understanding. It began at Pentecost, but this will continue until church is caught up to meet the Lord in the Air.

Your teaching does line up with Matthew 24 if you read it in context because the scripture states:

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(This did not happen at Pentecost. Did it?)

And according to the scripture:

Matthew 24:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

(This has not happened yet, and I don’t want to go though any more of it that I have to.)

And:

The prophecy of a year for a day does not hold true in Daniel 9.

Love in Christ.
Marty

[Ed J]

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(This did not happen at Pentecost. Did it?)

Hi Marty,

Yes – that is when it began.

“Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.” (Eph 3:21)

No my friend the Church will not end, and neither will God destroy the Earth as Miia teaches.

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Your brother
in Christ
Ed J

[Ed J]

Matthew 24:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

(This has not happened yet, and I don’t want to go though any more of it that I have to.)

Hi Marty,

Yes the great tribulation against the Church of Christ began
ever since the ‘abomination of desolation’ was set up in 688AD – as Jesus forewarned it would.

Jesus also said: that “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (meaning his Church)”
Therefore YOU should receive great comfort knowing that islam is doomed to destruction!

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God bless
Ed J

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I did not say that the church will end nor did I say that the God will destroy the earth, but the church, the Holy temple of God will be complete, and the church will meet the Lord in the air according to the scripture.

1 Thes:

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Co 15:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

A new heaven and a new earth does not mean that He will destroy the earth but it will be a paradise for God’s children.

These are some scriptures that relate:

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
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Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
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2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Revelation 21:1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Ed J]

I did not say that the church will end nor did I say that the God will destroy the earth, but the church, the Holy temple of God will be complete, and the church will meet the Lord in the air according to the scripture.

Hi Marty,

“The Rapture” will be quite “a sign” to those that are left behind – right?

[Ed J]

Revelation 21:1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

HI Marty,

Please give me your take on this…

“They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.

For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths:
their soul is melted because of trouble.

They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits’ end.
Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.

He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still. Then are they glad because they be quiet;
so he bringeth them unto their desired haven. Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness,
and for his wonderful works to the children of men! Let them exalt him also in the congregation
of the people, and praise him in the assembly of the elders.” (Psalms 107:23-32)

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God bless
Ed J

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Hi Ed:

ay:

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(This did not happen at Pentecost. Did it?)

You say:

Hi Marty,

Yes – that is when it began.

And so, how are you going to make the following verses fit into your teaching:

Matthew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

 

 

[Ed J]

Hi Marty,

Matt 24:37-44 is about the “Feast of Tabernacles”
not “Pentecost”. You would do yourself well
to study the seven feasts of the LORD.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

I did not say that the church will end nor did I say that the God will destroy the earth, but the church, the Holy temple of God will be complete, and the church will meet the Lord in the air according to the scripture.

Hi Marty,

“The Rapture” will be quite “a sign” to those that are left behind – right?

Now please answer my question

[942767]

Hi Ed:

Hi Marty,

Yes the great tribulation against the Church of Christ began
ever since the ‘abomination of desolation’ was set up in 688AD – as Jesus forewarned it would.

Jesus stated:

It is true that there has been tribulation against the church since its onset, and Jesus stated that in the the world we as his disciples will have tribulation, but not the “great tribulation” such as never was since the world began and will never happen again because when this shall begin to happen the end of this world as we know it will come to an end.

[Ed J]

I did not say that the church will end nor did I say that the God will destroy the earth, but the church, the Holy temple of God will be complete, and the church will meet the Lord in the air according to the scripture.

Hi Marty,

“The Rapture” will be quite “a sign” to those that are left behind – right?

Now please answer my question

Hi Marty,

You address my posts and I address your posts,
that is how communication is done.

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Hi Ed:

Hi Marty,
“The Rapture” will be quite “a sign” to those that are left behind – right?

Those who are left behind will have received the mark of the beast, and will be judged by “the seven last plagues”. There will be no second chance as some are teaching.

[Ed J]

Hi Ed:

Hi Marty,

Yes the great tribulation against the Church of Christ began
ever since the ‘abomination of desolation’ was set up in 688AD – as Jesus forewarned it would.

Jesus stated:

It is true that there has been tribulation against the church since its onset, and Jesus stated that in the the world we as his disciples will have tribulation, but not the “great tribulation” such as never was since the world began and will never happen again because when this shall begin to happen the end of this world as we know it will come to an end.

Hi Marty,

Who’s tribulation against Christians is ‘greater’

1. The Worlds
2. islam

1) kent hovind was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2007
and released ffom prison on July 7, 2015 (serving only 8 years)

2) But very few Americans are even aware that it has been estimated that 100 million Christians are
currently facing persecution and that approximately 100,000 Christians die for their faith each year.

As you are about to see, Christians all over the world are being burned alive, beheaded, crucified,
tortured to death and imprisoned in metal shipping containers just because of what they believe. …[b](Link)[/b]

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God bless
Ed J

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