Abomination of Desolation

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  • #317840
    Ed J
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,11:07)
    And 7 weeks after the crucifix,was the temple destroyed.
    This is the end of the 70 weeks.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,  (does not compute)

                33AD to 70AD  =  7 weeks     ????????????

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317841
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I'm going to put my LAST THREE posts
    in the right thread for you to address.

    lets get back to the topic here; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317850
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,16:07)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,08:27)
    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

                  (69 literal weeks is  ONE YEAR  and  TWO MONTHS )

            And as usual, you don't explain what you mean;
    you just tell us your conclusions and expect us to believe it      …without you telling us how you got there.


    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall (Neh.2:4-8) around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.

    69 LITERAL WEEKS for “The Messiah” puts the date at 455BC; so literal weeks DO NOT work.
    The “ONLY” formula that does work is  “a day for a year”  and can be found in Ezekiel 4:6.


    in another thread YOU said   '7wks,=70ad'    so explain fro us:

    How you get from the decree to restore Jerusalem in 457BC to “Messiah the prince”?      <–  (please answer)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    The world is always trying to be to smart.
    God uses weeks and you are trying to solve it using your understanding.

    The crucifixion is the key,go from there.

    wakeup.

    #317852
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    What DATE does your clock START (Dan.9:24-27)? 
        (don't just attempt to brush this question off either)

        And what is:  “The Abomination of Desolation”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317853
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,17:19)
    Edj.

    The world is always trying to be to smart.
    God uses weeks and you are trying to solve it using your understanding.

    The crucifixion is the key,go from there.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, we all know that you are smarted than me,
           so please PROVE your massive intellect
           BY ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317854
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    The conclusions you've drawn mean nothing to us,
    if you can't explain to us  HOW  you've come to those conclusions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317855
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    The reason YOU need to answer our questions:

    IS  because YOU resist telling us  EXACTLY HOW  you've come to those conclusions.

        instead of telling us HOW you've come to those conclusions,
       you instead direct derogatory 'snap comments' towards us

    We are therefore  FORCED TO PRY  the reason you've come to those conclusions from YOU!      
    with direct questions that makes it almost impossible to dodge; and exposes any such attempt.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317867
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,11:07)
    We know what year the crucifixion is;the 62nd week. So there is still 7weeks left.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    It's 69 weeks not 62, but in either case where (in what year) do you get this prophecy clock starting?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    We can not go more than 70 weeks.
    Thats the time given to israel to put them selves right before God.
    This 70 weeks started from the day the angel came to Daniel.
    ——————————————————————-
    If you start turning it into years you will not get threre,because the years are only proximate,its not deadly accurat to the day. So forget it.
    ——————————————————————From the commandment to the crucifix is 62 weeks.
    From the crucifix to the destruction of the temple 7weeks.
    ——————————————————————-The destruction of the temple 70 ad.(7weeks). But we can not be too sure about this,it could be out by a few years.this is only approximately.Is this by roman or jewish calender?
    ——————————————————————- That is all history: this is the important part for us.
    Verse26.——- and to the end of the war ;desolation are determined.(to the end).

    27. And *HE* shall confirm the covenant with many for one week,and in the mids of the week he shall cause the sacrifice,and the oblation to cease.(jewish people scattered).

    And for the overspreading of ABOMINATION *HE* SHALL MAKE IT DESOLATE…EVEN TO the consumation.(the end).
    This *HE* MUST BE THE DESTROYER.

    This prophecy has been fulfilled in 70ad.but the desolation thereof is still going today. spiritually desolate until the consumation.(untill the end).

    wakeup.

    #317869
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,17:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

    What DATE does your clock START (Dan.9:24-27)? 
        (don't just attempt to brush this question off either)

        And what is:  “The Abomination of Desolation”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    What? Abomination of desolation? what are you talking bout.

    wakeup.

    #317880
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,06:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,03:27)
    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.


    :(  :(


    Israel is given in TOTAL 70 weeks to straighten up.
    this is from the DAY that the angel spoke to Daniel.
    —————————————————————-
    Inside this total 70 weeks, is to anoint Jesus and to seal up this vision.Jesus will built the street again and the wall.(spiritual street and wall).not physical.
    The preaching opens the way,and the wall (truth).This wall is built with tempered mortar.Not built on lies.

    From the commandment to rebuild the temple to the messiah
    is 7 weeks and 62 weeks.(69).

    But the mesiah was cut off(crucified) after only 62 weeks,from the commandment. (69-62=7).left over.

    We know what year the crucifixion is;the 62nd week. So there is still 7weeks left.

    And 7 weeks after the crucifix,was the temple destroyed.
    This is the end of the 70 weeks. This is the time of determination.This is the time given to israel to straighten up.Time up.for israel.

    Where is the one week missing?
    That is the week that Daniel has to wait for the commandment to come in,to built the temple.

    The commandment DID NOT come on the day the angel spoke to Daniel; he had to wait for one week FOR THE COMMANDMENT TO COME.

    NOW FROM THE TIME OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE ONWARDS THERE IS DESOLATION EVEN TO THE CONSUMATION. and judgement poured upon the desolate.
    (jer.25) the land is desolate. God is fiercely angry.

    Rise up ye women that are at ease,hear my voice,YE CARELESS DAUGHTERS;GIVE EAR TO MY SPEECH.

    wakeup.


    :(

    #317890
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,19:58)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,17:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

    What DATE does your clock START (Dan.9:24-27)? 

    God bless
    Ed J  

    Edj.

    This 70 weeks started from the day the angel came to Daniel.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, OK Great, now we got an answer!


    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall (Neh.2:4-8) around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    That means that Daniel was given this Prophecy prior to it's fulfillment;
    which is documented as being fulfilled in 457BC.

    Now Jesus was not born until “5 BC – 0 AD”, and his ministry did not start until he was 30; and his ministry was 3½ years.


    So now whether you use 62 weeks or 69 weeks,
    or weather you pivot off of Jesus birth, the beginning
    of his ministry or even the crucifixion for that matter, 62
    weeks is not nearly long enough, NO, NOT BY A LONG SHOT.        
    (What do you say about this prophecy calculation dilemma?)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317891
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,16:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,11:07)
    And 7 weeks after the crucifix,was the temple destroyed.
    This is the end of the 70 weeks.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,  (does not compute)

                33AD to 70AD  =  7 weeks     ????????????

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Wakeup,

    And what of this prophecy calculation dilemma?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317892
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,20:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,17:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

    And what is:  “The Abomination of Desolation” ?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

    What?  Abomination of desolation? what are you talking bout.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    (Mark 13:14) “When ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
    standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:”

    First off: “What is it”?                      …well, what is it, Wakeup?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318153
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,22:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,20:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 27 2012,17:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

    And what is:  “The Abomination of Desolation” ?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

    What?  Abomination of desolation? what are you talking bout.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    (Mark 13:14) “When ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
    standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:”

    First off: “What is it”?                      …well, what is it, Wakeup?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Now you are mixing the overspreading of abominations;Dan9:27.
    and the THE abomination that maketh desolate SET UP. Dan.12:11.(where is knowledge,what happened to it?).

    The overspreading of abominations that maketh desolate is going on, till today. FOR THE LAND IS DESOLATE; HOWL YE SHEPHERDS,AND YE PRINCIPAL OF THE FLOCK.(Jer.25:34).
    This includes your principal.

    The abomination that maketh desolate *SET UP*
    is coming.(future).
    When the false prophet will *SET UP* his temple in jerusalem.

    wakeup.

    #318154
    Ed J
    Participant

    To All,

                 time, times and an half of time

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318157
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 30 2012,05:02)
    To All,

                 time, times and an half of time

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    1 + 2 +.5 = 3.5

    #318216
    Ed J
    Participant

    time, times, and a half = 2,500 years

    beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing (Pierre), that
     one day(or time) is with the LORD as a thousand years,
     and a thousand years as one(or time).
    (2 Peter 3:8)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318265
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,03:20)
    time, times, and a half = 2,500 years

    beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing (Pierre), that
     one day(or time) is with the LORD as a thousand years,
     and a thousand years as one(or time).
    (2 Peter 3:8)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED.

    One year is not a thousand years to the Lord;but AS A THOUSAND YEARS.

    wakeup.

    #318272
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    You mean one day, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318275
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,12:51)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You mean one day, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Sorry Ed,my booboo it should be one day,yes.

    wakeup.

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