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  • #317585
    Ed J
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    Hi Everyone,

    What is the 'abomination of desolation' spoken of by Daniel the Prophet?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317604
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,22:24)
    Hi Everyone,

    What is the 'abomination of desolation' spoken of by Daniel the Prophet?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    He already makes a mistake right at the beginning.
    When will these preachers wake up?
    Ezekiel is the ONLY year for day prophecy for a very obvious reason…
    And that is that Ezekiel could not lie on his side for x amount of years, then on his other side for x amount of years!!
    Use logic on this Ed, can you lay on one side for say 40 years???
    There you go!!

    Also, God clearly states the year for a day method.
    He makes sure this is CLEAR because it is NOT a method He uses except for this special occasion.
    IF He did use this method again, there would need be a special reason like Ezekiel had, and also, He would have TOLD US like He did in this rare case.

    No need to watch further.
    When building a wall, if the measurements are wrong at the start…how much more so by the end!!

    God bless.

    #317606
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 26 2012,02:13)
    Hi Ed,

    He already makes a mistake right at the beginning.
    When will these preachers wake up?

    Ezekiel is the ONLY year for day prophecy for a very obvious reason…

    And that is that Ezekiel could not lie on his side for x amount of years, then on his other side for x amount of years!!
    Use logic on this Ed, can you lay on one side for say 40 years???
    There you go!!

    Also, God clearly states the year for a day method.
    He makes sure this is CLEAR because it is NOT a method He uses except for this special occasion.
    IF He did use this method again, there would need be a special reason like Ezekiel had, and also, He would have TOLD US like He did in this rare case.

    No need to watch further.
    When building a wall, if the measurements are wrong at the start…how much more so by the end!!

    God bless.


    Hi Devolution,

    “A day for a year” is also used in the seventy weeks of Daniel prophecy.  (See Daniel 9:24-27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317631
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,02:37)

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 26 2012,02:13)
    Hi Ed,

    He already makes a mistake right at the beginning.
    When will these preachers wake up?

    Ezekiel is the ONLY year for day prophecy for a very obvious reason…

    And that is that Ezekiel could not lie on his side for x amount of years, then on his other side for x amount of years!!
    Use logic on this Ed, can you lay on one side for say 40 years???
    There you go!!

    Also, God clearly states the year for a day method.
    He makes sure this is CLEAR because it is NOT a method He uses except for this special occasion.
    IF He did use this method again, there would need be a special reason like Ezekiel had, and also, He would have TOLD US like He did in this rare case.

    No need to watch further.
    When building a wall, if the measurements are wrong at the start…how much more so by the end!!

    God bless.


    Hi Devolution,

    “A day for a year” is also used in the seventy weeks of Daniel prophecy.  (See Daniel 9:24-27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Daniel 9. uses weeks not days.
    70 solid weeks.
    He never mentioned half weeks,or days.

    wakeup.

    #317636
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2012,07:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,02:37)

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 26 2012,02:13)
    Hi Ed,

    He already makes a mistake right at the beginning.
    When will these preachers wake up?

    Ezekiel is the ONLY year for day prophecy for a very obvious reason…

    God bless.


    Hi Devolution,

    “A day for a year” is also used in the seventy weeks of Daniel prophecy.  (See Daniel 9:24-27)

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Daniel 9. uses weeks not days.
    70 solid weeks.
    He never mentioned half weeks,or days.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    For you to say that means you obviously need to study more.
    Seventy weeks of years equals 490 years.  [70 x 7 = 490]

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317660
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,08:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2012,07:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,02:37)

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 26 2012,02:13)
    Hi Ed,

    He already makes a mistake right at the beginning.
    When will these preachers wake up?

    Ezekiel is the ONLY year for day prophecy for a very obvious reason…

    God bless.


    Hi Devolution,

    “A day for a year” is also used in the seventy weeks of Daniel prophecy.  (See Daniel 9:24-27)

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Daniel 9. uses weeks not days.
    70 solid weeks.
    He never mentioned half weeks,or days.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    For you to say that means you obviously need to study more.
    Seventy weeks of years equals 490 years.  [70 x 7 = 490]

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Here we go again;adding to whats not there in scripture.

    Where in scripture (dan9:24–27.).was the weeks broken down to days?

    wakeup.

    #317667
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

                You know what Jesus said to Nicodemus:
    Art thou a master of Prophecy, and knowest not these things?   (See John 3:10)

    Come on Wakeup, you want us to believe your understanding of prophecy,
          yet you are illustrating that you do not understand Prophecy.


    “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,
    and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
    and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem(Neh 2:4-8)
    unto “the Messiah”(Jesus Christ) the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again,
    and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people
    of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of
    the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he
    shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even
    until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”  (Dan 9:24-27)


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    [483 – 457BC = 26AD]  This means Jesus was born in 4 BC; because his ministry began at 30.

    “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God
     is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317680
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,[/size]

    Quote


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    Theres one week missing.  Where is it?
    Hope it wasn't in that explanation you gave about Jesus being here in 4BC?

    #317685
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 26 2012,12:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,10:29)
    And he (Jesus Christ) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the
    midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (sacrificing himself).


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    [483 – 457BC = 26AD]  This means Jesus was born in 4 BC; because his ministry began at 30.

    “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God
     is at hand
    : repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

    God bless
    Ed J


    There's one week missing.  Where is it?
    Hope it wasn't in that explanation you gave about Jesus being here in 4BC?


    Hi Georgie, (please do look up the reference verses)

    The time was fulfilled at Jesus' baptism (26AD), making Jesus “The Christ,” fulfilling John 1:14.
    See Acts 10:38, John 1:14 (The Word(God) was made flesh), 1Tm.3:16, and 2Cor.5:19.

    490 – 483 = 7  seven years or one prophetic week left.
    The final prophetic week is fulfilled by Jesus and his Apostles

    Jesus preached 3½ years and then was crucified,
    after his resurrection, Jesus' Apostles finish the week-
    (3½ years) completing the 490 year seven week prophecy.

    God gives us a sure word of prophecy, proving we can count on him.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #317695
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,10:29)


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    [483 – 457BC = 26AD]  This means Jesus was born in 4 BC; because his ministry began at 30.

    “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God
     is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)


    The time was fulfilled at Jesus' baptism (26AD), making Jesus “The Christ,” fulfilling John 1:14.
    See Acts 10:38, John 1:14 (The Word(God) was made flesh), 1Tm.3:16, and 2Cor.5:19.

    490 – 483 = 7  seven years or one prophetic week left.
    The final prophetic week is fulfilled by Jesus and his Apostles

    Jesus preached 3½ years and then was crucified,
    after his resurrection, Jesus' Apostles finish the week-
    (3½ years) completing the 490 year seven week prophecy.

    God gives us a sure word of prophecy, proving we can count on him.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Georgie,

    The funny thing about numbers is: NUMBERS don't lie.
    (Remember 26AD – AD means in the year of “the Lord”)
    Connecting up beautifully with my research. (Prob. 25:2)


    God gives us a sure word of prophecy (Link), proving we can count on him.  

                           (26)יהוה = “GOD”(26)

    Fact #1. GOD's NAME, [יהוה], Theomatically matching “GOD”=26!
    Fact #2. The Short Form of God's Name, [יה], is pronounced “YÄ”=26.
    Fact #3. Man being created in YHVH's Image is first mentioned in Gen.1:26.
    Fact #4. “GOD”=26: matches the number of letters in the English alphabet, 26.
    Fact #5. “God's”, the possessive form of GOD, the number of times written is 26.
    Fact #6. “Spirit OF God”, the possessive phrase, the number of times written is 26.


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #317744
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,10:29)
    Hi Wakeup,

                You know what Jesus said to Nicodemus:
    Art thou a master of Prophecy, and knowest not these things?   (See John 3:10)

    Come on Wakeup, you want us to believe your understanding of prophecy,
          yet you are illustrating that you do not understand Prophecy.


    “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,
    and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
    and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem(Neh 2:4-8)
    unto “the Messiah”(Jesus Christ) the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again,
    and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people
    of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of
    the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he
    shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even
    until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”  (Dan 9:24-27)


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    [483 – 457BC = 26AD]  This means Jesus was born in 4 BC; because his ministry began at 30.

    “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God
     is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I can only see weeks mentioned.
    70 weeks.
    62weeks.
    7 weeks.
    So where did you manage to get the years?
    By your wisdom?

    wakeup.

    #317752
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Why are YOU continually asking the very questions that are answered
    in the very posts to which you are responding to here?        
    are you not reading my posts?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317758
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,21:37)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Why are YOU continually asking the very questions that are answered
    in the very posts to which you are responding to here?        
    are you not reading my posts?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Where is 483 YEARS mentioned in Dan.9:24–727 ?

    wakeup.

    #317759
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2012,22:56)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,21:37)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Why are YOU continually asking the very questions that are answered
    in the very posts to which you are responding to here?        
    are you not reading my posts?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Where is 483 YEARS mentioned in Dan.9:24–727 ?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    First do you even know who “The Messiah” the prince is?

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem
                                                        was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.

    Now get out your calculator and start crunching the numbers to find out how.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317783
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2012,15:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,10:29)
    Hi Wakeup,

                You know what Jesus said to Nicodemus:
    Art thou a master of Prophecy, and knowest not these things?   (See John 3:10)

    Come on Wakeup, you want us to believe your understanding of prophecy,
          yet you are illustrating that you do not understand Prophecy.


    “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,
    and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
    and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem(Neh 2:4-8)
    unto “the Messiah”(Jesus Christ) the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again,
    and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people
    of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of
    the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he
    shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even
    until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”  (Dan 9:24-27)


                  7 + 60 + 2 = 69  weeks of years   (483 years)

    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
    [483 – 457BC = 26AD]  This means Jesus was born in 4 BC; because his ministry began at 30.

    “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God
     is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I can only see weeks mentioned.
    70 weeks.
    62weeks.
    7 weeks.
    So where did you manage to get the years?
    By your wisdom?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    do you really do not know that ;i mean were the years convertion comes from ????

    #317790
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.

    #317791
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,03:27)
    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.


    :( :(

    #317802
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,03:27)
    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.


    :(  :(


    Israel is given in TOTAL 70 weeks to straighten up.
    this is from the DAY that the angel spoke to Daniel.
    —————————————————————-
    Inside this total 70 weeks, is to anoint Jesus and to seal up this vision.Jesus will built the street again and the wall.(spiritual street and wall).not physical.
    The preaching opens the way,and the wall (truth).This wall is built with tempered mortar.Not built on lies.

    From the commandment to rebuild the temple to the messiah
    is 7 weeks and 62 weeks.(69).

    But the mesiah was cut off(crucified) after only 62 weeks,from the commandment. (69-62=7).left over.

    We know what year the crucifixion is;the 62nd week. So there is still 7weeks left.

    And 7 weeks after the crucifix,was the temple destroyed.
    This is the end of the 70 weeks. This is the time of determination.This is the time given to israel to straighten up.Time up.for israel.

    Where is the one week missing?
    That is the week that Daniel has to wait for the commandment to come in,to built the temple.

    The commandment DID NOT come on the day the angel spoke to Daniel; he had to wait for one week FOR THE COMMANDMENT TO COME.

    NOW FROM THE TIME OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE ONWARDS THERE IS DESOLATION EVEN TO THE CONSUMATION. and judgement poured upon the desolate.
    (jer.25) the land is desolate. God is fiercely angry.

    Rise up ye women that are at ease,hear my voice,YE CARELESS DAUGHTERS;GIVE EAR TO MY SPEECH.

    wakeup.

    #317838
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,08:27)
    Ed&Terra.

    This is how you all have gone wrong,trying to OUTSMART Daniel,using your calculators.
    God indicats the time in Dan9.by weeks only.
    Not dates nor days or years.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

                  (69 literal weeks is  ONE YEAR  and  TWO MONTHS )

            And as usual, you don't explain what you mean;
    you just tell us your conclusions and expect us to believe it      …without you telling us how you got there.


    The command for Nehemiah to rebuild the wall (Neh.2:4-8) around Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes in 457 BC.

    69 LITERAL WEEKS for “The Messiah” puts the date at 455BC; so literal weeks DO NOT work.
    The “ONLY” formula that does work is  “a day for a year”  and can be found in Ezekiel 4:6.


    in another thread YOU said   '7wks,=70ad'    so explain fro us:

    How you get from the decree to restore Jerusalem in 457BC to “Messiah the prince”?      <–  (please answer)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317839
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2012,11:07)
    We know what year the crucifixion is;the 62nd week. So there is still 7weeks left.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    It's 69 weeks not 62, but in either case where (in what year) do you get this prophecy clock starting?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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