A QUESTION

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,09:14)

2 Besee.

The gospel has been freely preached in the world ;because satan has been leading all the churches.

He has got them in his pocket.

wakeup.

Wakeup, Satan has not been leading all of the Churches

What an insult!

January 13, 2013 at 4:33 am#327720

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“Seducing Spirits” – “Doctrines of Demons” – “False Prophets” – and “Wolves in Sheep's clothing” …”crept in”.

January 13, 2013 at 4:34 am#327721

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Now, we are up to 2nd Thess 2, “The strong delusion”.

January 13, 2013 at 4:42 am#327723

terraricca

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,08:53)

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2013,13:25)

Satan has not been bound:

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1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Marty,

Peter wrote those words before 70AD. So yes, Satan was, then, walking around as a lion, seeking whom he could devour.

But,
Jesus said:
“How can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.”

This happened in 70Ad, after Peter wrote those words.

Jesus said:
(Matt 24:2) “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down.”

(70AD)

Revelations 20:2-3:
“And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, (till the thousand years were ended. After that he must be loosed for a little while).”
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.”

The gospel of the kingdom has been preached throughout the world as a testimony to all of the nations, and soon (or more likely, now) Satan has been let lose to deceive the nations once more, and then the end will come.

Can you not see that?

2bee

Marty, is right ,Satan as not been bound yet ,

and the scriptures that you quoting are in reflection of the fore cast of the apostasy for told by Christ ,that would take place after the dead of the apostles ,

January 13, 2013 at 5:41 am#327727

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,14:34)

Now, we are up to 2nd Thess 2, “The strong delusion”.

2Besee.

Unfortunately this is the case,sad to say.
Satan is not stupid; what he can not beat by force,as he did with the early church.
Now he joins them,he has infiltrated the churches.

And blessed the leaders with many blessings,as long as they dont preach the whole truth.
As long as they keep the flock in sleep mode.

This is why in the last days there will be a FALLING AWAY. How is that possible?
Because they are build on sand, they have build the wall with UNTEMPERED mortar.

Gods true church, are they that worshipped him in spirit and truth. Not too many of them,for they are the sealed.
The little flock.

wakeup.

January 13, 2013 at 8:00 am#327737

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 13 2013,16:42)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,08:53)

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2013,13:25)

Satan has not been bound:

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1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Marty,

Peter wrote those words before 70AD. So yes, Satan was, then, walking around as a lion, seeking whom he could devour.

But,
Jesus said:
“How can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.”

This happened in 70Ad, after Peter wrote those words.

Jesus said:
(Matt 24:2) “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down.”

(70AD)

Can you not see that?

2bee

Marty, is right ,Satan as not been bound yet ,

and the scriptures that you quoting are in reflection of the fore cast of the apostasy for told by Christ ,that would take place after the dead of the apostles ,

T, we'll soon see the difference in Satan being bound and Satan being lose. But only those who are not deceived will see it and know what is happening.

January 13, 2013 at 8:13 am#327744

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Wakeup,

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Now he joins them,he has infiltrated the churches.

Yes, now it is happening and will get worse.

“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand)”

The holy place and the temple (2nd Thes 3) is the Church and the Body. It is a spiritual battle that we are right now in…

When you see this, you know that he is close – at the very gates.

January 13, 2013 at 8:21 am#327746

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y382769

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:36)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:41)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,08:59)

Why is this being discussed in three different threads?

I refuse to be in three different threads discussing the same thing!!

I am here:

Wakeup says the same things in multiple threads all the time.

EDJ.

This is because you are all hard headed.
It is hard to discard the old clothing.
Like to hold on.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

No rather, you speak whats on your mind regardless what is actually being discussed on each specific thread.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 13, 2013 at 8:24 am#327747

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Still, be careful how you judge (Matthew 12:22-37) be wise and seek Gods council as to these days that we are in (a very confusing time).

January 13, 2013 at 8:29 am#327748

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,20:24)

Still, be careful how you judge (Matthew 12:22-37) be wise and seek Gods council as to these days that we are in (a very confusing time).

Hi Ed, my post was not in reply to your post, it was to Wakeup.

January 13, 2013 at 9:12 am#327762

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,18:29)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,20:24)

Still, be careful how you judge (Matthew 12:22-37) be wise and seek Gods council as to these days that we are in (a very confusing time).

Hi Ed, my post was not in reply to your post, it was to Wakeup.

Hi 2Besee,

Yea, I figured.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 13, 2013 at 11:22 am#327786

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,18:13)

Wakeup,

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Now he joins them,he has infiltrated the churches.

Yes, now it is happening and will get worse.

“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand)”

The holy place and the temple (2nd Thes 3) is the Church and the Body. It is a spiritual battle that we are right now in…

When you see this, you know that he is close – at the very gates.

2Besee.

The temple will be build by the jews in in jereusalem.
The false prophet is going to do the destruction of the dome for the jews. But he will sit in that temple as God.

The war between the kings of the north(europe) and the kings of the south(muslems) is because of this dome destroyed.This will be the 3rd ww.

wakeup.

January 13, 2013 at 11:56 am#327792

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Wakeup,

The Temple is the Body.
(I would find the verses but I am too tired – you know them).

Jesus will come at a time when is least expected

1Thes.5

[1] But as to the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need to have anything written to you.
[2] For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
[3] When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape.
[4] But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
[5] For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we are not of the night or of darkness.
[6] So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober.
[7] For those who sleep sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
[8] But, since we belong to the day, let us be sober, and put on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation.
[9] For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
[10] who died for us so that whether we wake or sleep we might live with him.
[11] Therefore encourage one another and build one another up, just as you are doing.

I believe that this will be a spiritual battle and unless the time is cut short, no flesh (men) would survive (reach salvation) because of the huge deception that will take place.

I believe that it will be a battle for minds and hearts and the commandments of God.

Goodnight!

January 13, 2013 at 12:03 pm#327797

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“No flesh would be saved” is the correct translation.

January 13, 2013 at 12:34 pm#327808

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,23:22)

2Besee.

The temple will be build by the jews in in jereusalem.
The false prophet is going to do the destruction of the dome for the jews. But he will sit in that temple as God.

The war between the kings of the north(europe) and the kings of the south(muslems) is because of this dome destroyed.This will be the 3rd ww.

wakeup.

Wakeup, it could involve that too.

January 13, 2013 at 12:36 pm#327810

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For everything there is a flesh (reality) and there is also a spiritual (so somebody once told me)

January 13, 2013 at 12:49 pm#327815

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,21:22)

2Besee.

(1) The temple will be build by the jews in in jereusalem.
(2) The false prophet is going to do the destruction of the dome for the jews. But he will sit in that temple as God.

(3) The war between the kings of the north(europe) and the kings of the south(muslems) is because of this dome destroyed.This will be the 3rd ww.

wakeup.

Hi Wkaeup,

1) You mean the third temple who's plans are in Ezekiel, right?
2) It was because of the false prophet that the dome of the rock was built.
3) You mean between Christians (Kingdom of God) and islam (kingdom of the antichrist).

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm#327837

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,21:56)

Wakeup,

The Temple is the Body.
(I would find the verses but I am too tired – you know them).

Jesus will come at a time when is least expected

1Thes.5

I believe that this will be a spiritual battle and unless the time is cut short, no flesh (men) would survive (reach salvation) because of the huge deception that will take place.

I believe that it will be a battle for minds and hearts and the commandments of God.

Goodnight!

2Besee.

We are about the physical temple of the jews.
Not christians.

wakeup.

January 13, 2013 at 2:26 pm#327848

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,22:49)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,21:22)

2Besee.

(1) The temple will be build by the jews in in jereusalem.
(2) The false prophet is going to do the destruction of the dome for the jews. But he will sit in that temple as God.

(3) The war between the kings of the north(europe) and the kings of the south(muslems) is because of this dome destroyed.This will be the 3rd ww.

wakeup.

Hi Wkaeup,

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

“Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus
throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.” (Eph 3:21)

January 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm#327863