- This topic is empty.
- Posts
Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him.
Deu 18:19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
Deu 18:20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.'
Deu 18:21 And if you say in your heart, 'How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?'–
Deu 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
=====================================If this was only to mean one person, what of poor Jeremiah, Isaiah, Hosea, Zecheriah, and the rest? Were they false prophets?
But let us assume that it is one person, and this time it is Jesus.
=====================================
Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, “Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you.”
Mat 12:39 But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Mat 12:40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
====================================Now almost all Christians say this is a prophecy of his death and resurrection. But who was he speaking to? Scribes and Pharisees! But did this prophecy actually come true for the scribes and Pharisees? NO! He never once appeared to them upon resurrection, so obviously to them, this was one big lie and they took Jesus for who he was, a false prophet. Therefore, he could not validate his prophecy amongst the doubters, but we are merely to accept that he was raised by listening to his “followers”.
What of this?
=================================
Mat 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Mat 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
=================================Which one of those who were standing there is still alive? Another false prophecy.
Instead, Jesus matches Deu 13 to a “T”. He gives false prophecy, speaks of following “god the father” and performs miracles. Did Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, etc. perform miracles to validate themselves before men? NO! Such was not needed as they were true men of G-d.
Thus, a “prophet like Moses” is not one individual, but any that G-d had chosen from His people to bring the words of G-d.
Jesus does not pass the test as a true prophet of G-d.
Hi Tow,
So narrowminded, so immature, so prone to jumping to immediate conclusions and because you cannot yet understand or have not had the patience to search the scriptures for the answer you are so keen to take on yourself to make lying accusations against the one appointed Lord of all for whom you have no respect.Suck on your pacifier for a month or two and these answers may come to you.
Then you will have less to explain to him when you meet him.
Deu 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
I had not read this before. What a fantastic con job! So this LORD fellow is one who would take back his lottery ticket and demand a refund if the ticket didn't win, claiming that because it didn't win it was not a real lottery ticket!
Moral of story: probably safer to play poker with satan, at least you know you're likely to be hoodwinked.
Stuart
Yes, it is best to prophecy in ambiguous terms. Wasn't the oracle of Delphi like that? No matter the outcome, always right.
Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,11:56) Ah Nick, never with any real refutation. Getting under your skin?
Hi Tow,
I do hate to see God, His Son, His Prophets and servants and His teachings being treated with such contempt.He will have the last say though.Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2008,12:24) Deu 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. I had not read this before. What a fantastic con job! So this LORD fellow is one who would take back his lottery ticket and demand a refund if the ticket didn't win, claiming that because it didn't win it was not a real lottery ticket!
Moral of story: probably safer to play poker with satan, at least you know you're likely to be hoodwinked.
Stuart
Hi Stu,
False prophets do exist. God reveals them by their fruit.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 08 2008,21:53) Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,11:56) Ah Nick, never with any real refutation. Getting under your skin?
Hi Tow,
I do hate to see God, His Son, His Prophets and servants and His teachings being treated with such contempt.He will have the last say though.
I have no contempt for G-d. You seem to be deluded into thinking that words written by fallible men are the very words straight from the mouth of G-d however. You give too much power of other humans over you then.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 08 2008,21:55) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2008,12:24) Deu 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. I had not read this before. What a fantastic con job! So this LORD fellow is one who would take back his lottery ticket and demand a refund if the ticket didn't win, claiming that because it didn't win it was not a real lottery ticket!
Moral of story: probably safer to play poker with satan, at least you know you're likely to be hoodwinked.
Stuart
Hi Stu,
False prophets do exist. God reveals them by their fruit.
What would be their fruit? Would wanting to sit by and watch people being tortured be part of this fruit?Hi Tow,
He lives in heaven.
He still is among his people on earth
And he can still be known through what is written about him.How do you know he lives in heaven, because of what is written about him? That's circular reasoning.
Hi Tow,
No, belief in a creator does not tell you anything about heaven.
So where did you learn this?No, it came when I was learning English. How about you? My parents were not Christians (and still are not, neither claim any religion whatsoever), but they told me G-d lives in heaven. Who knows who told them
.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
