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Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:58) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,04:18) Jesus said to Caiaphas “YOU WILL SEE” the Son of Man “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.” Your assertion that he did not set up a kingdom of any kind is a gross error. He said that His kingdom “is not from here.” He said that it is “within you.”
the Roo
Hi Jack,This is what occurred at “Pentecost”, is is NOT? (Heb.12:1-4)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I believe that I elsewhere agreed that Pentecost was the beginning. Jesus told Caiaphas that he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds “from this time and forward.”
His personal coming by which He Himself descended from heaven did not occur until ad70. His coming in the person of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost could be the beginning as I said. But He did not personally until ad70.
the Roo
Hi KJ,
Really?
He was seen to return as he left??[Acts1]
Or are you just imaging it has happened in support of your presuppositions?Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,08:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:58) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,04:18) Jesus said to Caiaphas “YOU WILL SEE” the Son of Man “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.” Your assertion that he did not set up a kingdom of any kind is a gross error. He said that His kingdom “is not from here.” He said that it is “within you.”
the Roo
Hi Jack,This is what occurred at “Pentecost”, is is NOT? (Heb.12:1-4)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I believe that I elsewhere agreed that Pentecost was the beginning. Jesus told Caiaphas that he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds “from this time and forward.”
His personal coming by which He Himself descended from heaven did not occur until ad70. His coming in the person of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost could be the beginning as I said. But He did not personally until ad70.
the Roo
Hi Jack,I believe this is the first time you actually agreed with me about Pentecost. (John 14:23 / John 6:63)
I started a new thread here that deals with A FALSE FLESH RETURN (Rev.13:15) image. (Gen.5:3)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgKJ
i think Caiaphas's as seen all,first he sew the son of God ,and Jesus confirm to him that he the Christ.so in this he sew the king,at the resurrection of Christ he as seen and heard of his resurrection as the son of God,his return means in this case the resurrection of Christ.(gone from lve to dead and from dead to live is return)
Pierre
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:58) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,04:18) Jesus said to Caiaphas “YOU WILL SEE” the Son of Man “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.” Your assertion that he did not set up a kingdom of any kind is a gross error. He said that His kingdom “is not from here.” He said that it is “within you.”
the Roo
Hi Jack,This is what occurred at “Pentecost”, is is NOT? (Heb.12:1-4)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I believe that I elsewhere agreed that Pentecost was the beginning. Jesus told Caiaphas that he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds “from this time and forward.”
His personal coming by which He Himself descended from heaven did not occur until ad70. His coming in the person of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost could be the beginning as I said. But He did not personally until ad70.
the Roo
Kj,he was with the diciples for awile before acending into heaven.
Jesus didnt come as a holy spirit, he came personally at that time, because he even asked…. who was it? Thomas to put his fingers in the holes that the nails made on his wrist.
That was his actualy body! i dont get what ur saying
thats why im asking you what you believe this is.
Becuase the bible can say what it says ,but i dont know what you think.
and thats what i want to know.Hi SF,
Jesus had died.
But he lived by the Spirit of God.
Alive in that Spirit he re entered his torn body and was raised to fulfill prophecy[Acts2, Rom1]Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,08:51) Hi SF,
Jesus had died.
But he lived by the Spirit of God.
Alive in that Spirit he re entered his torn body and was raised to fulfill prophecy[Acts2, Rom1]
I get that, but he wasnt the holy spirit as Kj cliamed.
Why are you so focused on attacking everyone,its convient for you to post such small post,
means we cannot fully attack you.Your oneliners mean nothing to me.
and when it does, i do let you know
so dont take me as a brute.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,09:44) Hi SF,
Why do you feel attacked by scripture?
lol so your scripture?isnt that idolatry
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,09:59) Hi SF,
Do you not feed on the word of God?[Jn6]
hi nick,you shouldnt be calling your self scripture.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,10:54) Hi SF,
You really are in a muddle
HI NICK,YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT WHEN SOMEONE DOES THE SAME THING AS YOU?
YOU INSPIRE ME! (SARCASM)
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,12:36) Hi SF,
So long as the scriptures do not suffer your reproach.
Nick,
Open your bibleHi,
70ad was momentous but Jesus did not return to be one with his body.
He will soon though some bridesmaids are nodding off.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,13:11) Hi,
70ad was momentous but Jesus did not return to be one with his body.
He will soon though some bridesmaids are nodding off.
Hi nick,
Why do you make them sleep?Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,19:11) Hi,
70ad was momentous but Jesus did not return to be one with his body.
He will soon though some bridesmaids are nodding off.
Nick,Jesus returned in ad70 or He was a liar and a false prophet.
3. The historic events of AD 70 give credibility to Jesus, the writers of the Scriptures and the Scriptures themselves because the imminency statements in the Bible do not have to be twisted and turned about in an attempt to make them believable. In the AD 70 fulfillment understanding the imminency statements can be accepted at face value with no games being played with them. The scriptures I refer to include the following:
a. “But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come” (Matt.10:23). Jesus was clearly speaking to “the twelve” (see verse five) in this passage. They were to see Him come back in their lifetime!
b. “Jesus saith unto him [the high priest], Thou hast said [that I am the Christ the Son of God]: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven” (Matt.26:64). Jesus said He would come back (His Parousia) in the clouds during the lifetime of the high priest!
c. “Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom” (Matt.16:28). Jesus said that some of those who were standing before Him when He made this statement would not die before they saw Jesus coming in His kingdom! Some Christians are still waiting today for the kingdom and the King to come because they do not understand the events of AD 70!
d. “Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled” (Matt.24:34).
e. “Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation” (Matt.23:36). Everything Jesus spoke of would take place in the generation of those who stood before Him as He spoke!
If we consider the statements above that were made by Christ, we must come to one of the following conclusions:
(1) Jesus was confused about future events.
(2) Jesus deliberately misled those He spoke to.
(3) Jesus lied to those He spoke to.
(4) Jesus told the truth and many in the church today are guilty of believing something about the Scriptures that is not true; namely, that He has not yet returned and set up His kingdom.KJ
Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,08:36) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,08:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:58) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2010,04:18) Jesus said to Caiaphas “YOU WILL SEE” the Son of Man “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.” Your assertion that he did not set up a kingdom of any kind is a gross error. He said that His kingdom “is not from here.” He said that it is “within you.”
the Roo
Hi Jack,This is what occurred at “Pentecost”, is is NOT? (Heb.12:1-4)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I believe that I elsewhere agreed that Pentecost was the beginning. Jesus told Caiaphas that he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds “from this time and forward.”
His personal coming by which He Himself descended from heaven did not occur until ad70. His coming in the person of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost could be the beginning as I said. But He did not personally until ad70.
the Roo
Hi Jack,I believe this is the first time you actually agreed with me about Pentecost. (John 14:23 / John 6:63)
I started a new thread here that deals with A FALSE FLESH RETURN (Rev.13:15) image. (Gen.5:3)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,Read what I said again. I do NOT agree with you about Pentecost. I said that Pentecost MAY have been the beginning of Christ's second coming. His personal return by which He Himself descended from heaven did not occur until ad70.
the Roo
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