3 Angels Messages; Dan/Rev; AntiChrist

Would you be willing to test this by scripture and history?  For verily it will be shown to not be the case.  Will you search the scriptures and history with me?  Will you consider the questions I bring?

“No.”

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Revelation 13:15

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:16

It will not matter, religion or lack thereof, nationality, creed, race, color, sex, height, width, length, etc.  For this power “causeth” [that is to say by force of arms, force of law, force of might, force of sword, brute force, force of deception, force of coercion, force of starvation, etc] all to so receive that mark, and the only ones who will not receive it, are those who will be sealed by the seal of God.

As was shared earlier, it is already rearing its head in various places, especially Germany.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012….nd.html

http://www.markofbeast.net/page3.htm

http://www.pearltrees.com/#….5277051

Ok,  here are a few to begin with.

“Which two passages in scripture specifically speak of the 'son of perdition', and to whom do those two texts specifically apply?”

“According to the Greek definition, what does the word 'anti-christos' mean in total?”

“Which is older, the Papacy [Papal Rome and Catholism], or Mahometanism [Islam], therefore which could only have already begun to show in the days of Paul and John of which they warned?”

“From where did those come from of which both Paul and John warn even in their day?”

“Historically, which system of religion [Papal or Islamic] gave rise to the other, and who was Mahomet [Mohammed] married to, and who was her cousin?”

“Where did the 'Little Horn' of Daniel 7 arise from, and what did that Beast represent Biblically?”

“According to scripture alone, what is the definition of 'Blasphemy'?”

Please address these, and then consider these:

Shall we look at the scriptures? What points do we have to identify this with?

(A) It would be a “little horn” and come up among and arise after the ten horns of the ten-horned beast with 'iron teeth' [Daniel 2:40-41, 7:7-8] rising up out of the sea (peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues) [Revelation 13:1] and would rule over them [Revelation 17:1,15]

(B) It would have a human leader as its spokeman's/head with “eyes” and “mouth of a man” [Daniel 7:8,25]

[C] It would uproot three kingdoms/horns of the ten horns as it arises [Daniel 7:8,20]

(D) It would be diverse and different than the other ten kingdoms/horns that came before it [Daniel 7:24]

(E) It would be a persecuting power especially one that wears out the Saints of the Most High God, all the while it claims to promote peace [Daniel 7:21,25, 8:25; Revelation 17:6,14]

(F) It would be clearly seen in power amidst the division of the Iron Kingdom [Daniel 7:7,8]

(G) It would rule for 1,260 prophetic days/literal Years, (being also signified as a time, times and ½ times), 3 ½ prophetic years), 42 prophetic months, as given 7 times in scripture and then receive what seemed to be a deadly mortal wound [Daniel 7:25, 12:7; Revelation 11:2-3, 12:6,14, 13:5]

(H) It would have a mouth speaking blasphemy (as defined by scripture, 'claiming to forgive sins', 'claiming to have the perogatives or be in the place of God on this earth', a persecuting crusader, a “blasphemer”) and great exalted words against and in the place of The Most High God [Daniel 7:8,25; Revelation 13:5-6, 17:5; John 10:33; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:21; 1 Timothy 1:13, 2:5]

(I) It would think to change the “times” and “laws” of the Most High God [Daniel 7:25]

(J) It would begin as a “little horn” power/kingdom in smallness but it would grow into a worldwide power, a “universal” power, and become more stout than those 10 horns/kingdoms before it [Daniel 7:20,23; Revelation 13:3, 17:18]

(K) In it would be seen the teachings and ways of the Lion, Bear, Leopard, and Terrible Beast with Iron Teeth Kingdoms [Revelation 13:2]

(L) It would receive what seemed like a deadly mortal wound around the same time (at the end of the 1260 years) that the Beast with the two Lamb-like horns, no crowns, but yet spake like a dragon is arising in power from the “earth” [Revelation 13:11]

(M) It would receive, in one of its heads, something like a deadly or mortal wound, though itself would not be killed [Revelation 13:3]

(N) That which looked like a deadly mortal wound would be healed [Revelation 13:3]

(O) It would cause and or require the world to worship it, and control buying and selling, being a Kingdom both religious and political [Revelation 13:8, 14:9]

(P) It would deny that Jesus came in the Flesh by teaching something else [1 John 4:3; 2 John 1:7]

(Q) It would deny that Jesus is the Christ (Anointed) by replacing Him with another [1 John 4:3; “Anti” means “against” or “in the place of”] in what it proclaims [1 John 2:22], being yet “lawless”/”wicked” (without the True Laws of God) and promoting its own form of righteousness, for it thought to change the “times” and “laws” of God [2 Thessalonians 2:8]

[R] Another power, which itself had come from, would at first hold it in check in its infancy, but after this other power was taken out of the way it would be revealed [2 Thessalonians 2:1-12] and which did not remain true to the Gospel [1 John 2:19]

(S) The Dragon [Satan working through this power] would give it it's power and great authority [Revelation 13:2]

(T) There would be more than one individual in its time [1 John 2:18] as its head, a “man of sin” [2 Thessalonians 2:3]. It would not desire others, lifting itself above all that is called God or that is worshipped [2 Thessalonians 2:4] and who forbids marriage and has other non-biblical forced abstentions [Daniel 11:37; 1 Timothy 4:1-3]

(U) It would sit in (heis: towards or among) the Temple of God [1 Corinthians 3:16-17, 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:16], ruling over the people of God [2 Thessalonians 2:4], yet claiming to be of God, yet it is a “son of perdition”, just as Judas was [2 Thessalonians 2:3]

(V) It would exist from the time it appears until the very end when its dominion is taken away by God Himself [Daniel 7:22,26; 2 Thessalonians 2:8] and has a “mark” which is in opposition to the “seal of God” [Revelation 16:2; 19:20]

(W) It is classified as a “woman” which has many “harlot daughters” that came from her and carry her teachings [Revelation 17:5]

(X) It exists as its own great city which sits among 7 mountains and who is rich, and decked with “gold” and “pearls” and costly array, even “purple” and “scarlet”, having a “golden cup in her hand” [Revelation 17:4,9,18, 18:12,16]

(Y) It would cause many to be drunk with fermented Wine (symbol for corruption of Biblical principles) [Revelation 17:2, 4], be fallen, fallen and has refused to repent of “her” sins and fornication [Revelation 2:21] and has become the hold of every foul and unclean spirit[Revelation 18:2]

(Z) It also has a number “666” [“χξς”] which may be “counted”, the number of a man, being its head, the “man of sin” [2 Thessalonians 2:3], it is his number [Revelation 13:18]

To the point it is [it will answer your questions, and it is succinct, up to you]:

http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/383/257-image-of-the-beast/

Ed J,

If we may go back a step, and reconsider what was posted?

Please take a moment to do so, and we shall see that it was not said that “Judas” was mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, but rather that the “anti-christ” was “mentioned”, not by that designation, but rather by “son of perdition” instead, even as that power has many such titles/names.

It was also not said that the name “Judas” was specifically given in John 17:12, though he [Judas Iscariot] is mentioned indirectly with the designation “son of perdition” in that passage.

I want to make sure that we all understand that John 17:12 references “Judas Iscariot” by the designation “son of perdition”, as it will have direct bearing upon the 2 Thessalonians 2:3 passage afterward, for the one helps in identifying the other “son of perdition” in definition and character, but let us wait briefly for this, and consider Judas Iscariot in John 17:12.  Let us go back to some context, and include John chapters 13-18, as it is all one, merely transitioning from the locale of the upper room, where Jesus ate the Passover with the 12 in Jerusalem, to then Judas leaving to betray, and Jesus and the others leaving to go out of Jerusalem unto the Garden of Gethsemane and onward.

Let us also remember that in the Greek there are no chapter/division breaks, originally, though in the English it is helpful in certain instances, but not always, and can be a hindrance in very key areas elsewhere.

Therefore, looking back at John 13, we see the following:

After the footwashing, we see Jesus make mention of Judas Iscariot here, wherein he would betray Jesus that very night, as it is written in the prophecies, and stated again by Jesus:

I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me. John 13:18

Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am [he]. John 13:19

When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. John 13:21

Jesus then specifically points out to John, who the betrayer is, since he had asked and was closest to Jesus, laying upon him:

Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped [it]. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave [it] to Judas Iscariot, [the son] of Simon. John 13:26

Judas Iscariot is the one of “them” which betrayed [Matthew 17:22, 20:18; 26:2,24,45; Mark 14:21,41; Luke 22:22], even with a kiss [Matthew 26:48-49; Mark 14:45; Luke 22:47-48], and “he” [a male, a son] was numbered among them [Acts 1:16-26].

Judas Iscariot after being told by Jesus to go and do quickly, leaves into the night, and the reminder of the disciples continue with Jesus in the room, and then leave together, talking, walking toward the perimeter of the city, and leaving it, then crossing over the brook kedron, still conversing all the way with Jesus primarily the one speaking, until we come to the John 17 texts.

The entire context of these versus is Jesus speaking directly unto the '11' which remained [John 17:6].  Therefore the passages are directly about the group of Disciples, of those which remained, and of the one which did not, Judas Iscariot.

Notice again the passage after the context:

While I was with them in the world, I kept them [the 11 Disciples] in thy name: those [the Disciples] that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them [the Disciples] is lost, but the son of perdition [that being Judas Iscariot]; that the scripture might be fulfilled. John 17:12

Please notice that last part, “that the scripture might be fulfilled.”  Which scripture we out to ask, but we ough not to guess, for Peter in Acts 1:16-26, verily identifies with precision which prophecies were to be fulfilled, and unto whom this “son of perdition” is, and Peter clearly says, “Men [and] brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.” Acts 1:16

Who then, by scripture alone, is the “son of perdition” in John 17:12.  It can only be Judas Iscariot and this has serious bearing upon the other “son of perdition” found in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

Judas Iscariot did not truly repent, in “Godly sorrow”, but rather the sorrow of circumstances, of the world, not for any real change of heart, but rather for the loss upon himself:

For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2 Corinthians 7:10

How did Judas die?  Was it reconciled to Jesus?  No, it was by suicide, a hanging over a cleft and then a falling unto a dashing into pieces…

And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Matthew 27:5

For he could have repented at the footwashing, and had opportunity, but did not.

Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling
headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Acts 1:18

And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. Acts 1:19

Whereas Judas died by suicide and unreconciled to Jesus, for he did not return unto Jesus to confess His sin, but unto the Pharisees which helped with the money in betrayal, could not forgive sin… in total contrast, we see Peter in betrayal also, but he instead recognizes his great sin in denying Jesus, and goes out “wept bitterly” [Matthew 26:75; Luke 22:62] and is later reconciled to Jesus after the resurrection.

With these things now known contextually, will you at least reconsider?