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- March 23, 2013 at 4:20 pm#345564LightenupParticipant
Hi everybody,
This thread is a place where we can put verses that have two words that are in the Greek nominative case but with only one verb or the verbs apply to only one of the nominative words in the sentence or clause (smaller sentence within a larger sentence). The words that are in the nominative can each have an article or only one of them have an article. Please specify which is the case.
Ultimately, this thread is designed to better understand John 1:1 (John 1:1c in particular).
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The ideas presented on HN about John 1:1c as to why both words (Word, God) are written in the nominative case but only one has the article are as follows:
1. The word 'God' is a predicate nominative and not the subject of the clause. The lack of the article is only to distinguish that the word 'God' is not the subject and has a sense of equivalence with the other word in the nominative case. The absence of the article is not meant to infer a quality or identity. It simply designates that the word 'God' is not the subject of the clause.
2. The word 'God' is a proper noun, i.e. it is being used as someone's proper name.
3. The word 'God' is meant to read 'a God' or 'a god.'
4. The word 'God' is meant to read 'divine' as having the quality of the divine.
If there are other beliefs as to why there are two nominative words and only one article please let me know and I will edit this post and add it to this list.
Again, this is a database of scripture and not meant to be a discussion thread so that it can be mainly used to compare verses, not opinions with other opinions and go off on all sorts of rabbit trails. Also, you can add an educated guess or grammatical fact as to why the two or more words are in the nominative case and have only one article when it is about the verse that YOU post or some one else posts. Others can add grammatical insight but derogatory comments/insults will most likely be requested to be deleted.
Thanks and happy hunting!
Btw, I sure would appreciate your help on this so that I am not the only one contributing. To find out if the word is written in the nominative case, and if there is an article, an interlinear tool that tells you the morphology of a word is helpful. That can be found on the http://www.biblos.com site.
If you need help to find the interlinear, please let me know. For example, the interlinear tool that is for John 1:1 is here:
http://interlinearbible.org/john/1-1.htmBlessings!!
(edited to clarify)March 23, 2013 at 4:23 pm#345565LightenupParticipantThis spot is a placeholder for a possible future compilation of some or all of the verses that are most similar in construction to John 1:1c.
March 23, 2013 at 4:31 pm#345566LightenupParticipantMark 10:8
AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.The word 'the' is in the nominative case and is an article and the subject of the sentence. The word 'flesh' is also in the nominative case but does not have an article. So, it seems that the words 'one flesh' has a sense of equivalency with 'the two.'
March 24, 2013 at 8:24 pm#345567LightenupParticipantMark 15:39
NET Bible (©2006)
Now when the centurion, who stood in front of him, saw how he died, he said, “Truly this man was God's Son!”From what I can tell, this last part that is bolded is similar to John 1:1c with 'this man' and 'God's Son' both being in the nominative case but 'God's Son' does not have seem to have the article in the Greek.
March 24, 2013 at 8:27 pm#345568LightenupParticipantMatthew 3:4
English Standard Version (©2001)
Now John wore a garment of camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was locusts and wild honey.'Food' and 'locusts' and 'honey' are written in the nominative case but 'food' has an article and the other two don't. That makes 'food' the subject of the clause, but I'm no Greek scholar.
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