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Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
—————————————————————–Laurel
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Quote (Baker @ Nov. 30 2010,10:15) from Laurel Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
—————————————————————–Laurel
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Are you trying to proove something here? If so, what?Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,02:37) Quote (Baker @ Nov. 30 2010,10:15) from Laurel Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
—————————————————————–Laurel
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Are you trying to proove something here? If so, what?
Lcan you not see your own statement ??In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,03:33) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,02:37) Quote (Baker @ Nov. 30 2010,10:15) from Laurel Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
—————————————————————–Laurel
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Are you trying to proove something here? If so, what?
Lcan you not see your own statement ??In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile
Pierre
P,
You missed the whole point of the renewed covenant. Go back and read the Scripture i posted. While letting those words “sink in” remember our Master's words, not only about His mission to gather the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, but His parable about being “graffed in to the tree of life.” AND in the book of Revelations where the Messiah tells John that to them who “overcome” will inherit the kingdom. “The word Yisra'el means those who overcome with El.”
And, Yahushua Messiah came only for the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, who must overcome.
AND, YHWH divorced Yisra'el because they whored with false elohim in the lands where they were scattered to the four corners of the earth, they sought the pagan gods of the Gentiles, (those who forsook the covenant and went after false gods).
AND the “promise of the covenant was to Yisra'el through Ephrayim, but first it was to Abraham prophecied to Ephrayim who came from the loins of Abraham.I spent years learning about all these things, and you will have to search Scripture for yourself to see this, but the point is:
Any Gentile who enters the renewed covenant must identify with the same Yisra'el who left Eqypt. Remember the Elijah message, Come out of Babel.
Abraham came out of Babel and he is called the father of our belief in the Brit Chodesh (New Testament), Abraham the father of Ephrayim, the Children of the Promise, the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, the Gentiles!
Do you get it yet? My belief agrees 100% with Scripture.
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,20:57) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,03:33) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,02:37) Quote (Baker @ Nov. 30 2010,10:15) from Laurel Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
—————————————————————–Laurel
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Are you trying to proove something here? If so, what?
Lcan you not see your own statement ??In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile
Pierre
P,
You missed the whole point of the renewed covenant. Go back and read the Scripture i posted. While letting those words “sink in” remember our Master's words, not only about His mission to gather the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, but His parable about being “graffed in to the tree of life.” AND in the book of Revelations where the Messiah tells John that to them who “overcome” will inherit the kingdom. “The word Yisra'el means those who overcome with El.”
And, Yahushua Messiah came only for the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, who must overcome.
AND, YHWH divorced Yisra'el because they whored with false elohim in the lands where they were scattered to the four corners of the earth, they sought the pagan gods of the Gentiles, (those who forsook the covenant and went after false gods).
AND the “promise of the covenant was to Yisra'el through Ephrayim, but first it was to Abraham prophecied to Ephrayim who came from the loins of Abraham.I spent years learning about all these things, and you will have to search Scripture for yourself to see this, but the point is:
Any Gentile who enters the renewed covenant must identify with the same Yisra'el who left Eqypt. Remember the Elijah message, Come out of Babel.
Abraham came out of Babel and he is called the father of our belief in the Brit Chodesh (New Testament), Abraham the father of Ephrayim, the Children of the Promise, the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisra'el, the Gentiles!
Do you get it yet? My belief agrees 100% with Scripture.
LRo 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ro 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.
Ro 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.
Ro 4:3 What does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
Ro 4:23 The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone,
Ro 4:24 but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.
Ro 4:25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.Phil 2:1 If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion,
Phil 2:2 then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose.
Phil 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.
Phil 2:4 Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.;;Egypt as nothing to do with it the gentiles recieved the spirit equaly than the Jews.
Ac 15:7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.
Ac 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.I do not care much for so called studies of the scriptures ,I have study the scriptures by the spirit of God,
how did you study them???Pierre
Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,09:28) Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Laurelso what you are saying is ,that you are a fake ,and can not answer anything unless it is in line of your doctrines learned by those who have taught you.
this I do understand.
the truth is the truth and only scriptures provided the truth of God,
we can see the false and fake wen we compere it against the word of God ,IT DOES NOT STAND.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,05:09) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,09:28) Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Laurelso what you are saying is ,that you are a fake ,and can not answer anything unless it is in line of your doctrines learned by those who have taught you.
this I do understand.
the truth is the truth and only scriptures provided the truth of God,
we can see the false and fake wen we compere it against the word of God ,IT DOES NOT STAND.
Pierre
Are you calling me a fake because i said i follow the Messiah and the TeNaK which is the Word of ELohim?Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,17:11) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,05:09) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,09:28) Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Laurelso what you are saying is ,that you are a fake ,and can not answer anything unless it is in line of your doctrines learned by those who have taught you.
this I do understand.
the truth is the truth and only scriptures provided the truth of God,
we can see the false and fake wen we compere it against the word of God ,IT DOES NOT STAND.
Pierre
Are you calling me a fake because i said i follow the Messiah and the TeNaK which is the Word of ELohim?
LNO,but you are using a langage what is in Hebrew,and here we reading english,
and your interpretation as to be based on scriptures,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,10:21) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,17:11) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,05:09) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,09:28) Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Laurelso what you are saying is ,that you are a fake ,and can not answer anything unless it is in line of your doctrines learned by those who have taught you.
this I do understand.
the truth is the truth and only scriptures provided the truth of God,
we can see the false and fake wen we compere it against the word of God ,IT DOES NOT STAND.
Pierre
Are you calling me a fake because i said i follow the Messiah and the TeNaK which is the Word of ELohim?
LNO,but you are using a langage what is in Hebrew,and here we reading english,
and your interpretation as to be based on scriptures,
Pierre
Pierre,
Ask me any question where i have said something that you do not understand. As i post, i put in parenthsis the English word you are used to. But since i have done that earlier, i do not continue to do it as i continue to write.I'll rewrite some of the basics for you here, so that you will know what i mean when i write the true names, etc…
YHWH or Yahuweh= Our Creator. Also Jahovah, also LORD on the TeNaK. Yahuweh or YHWH is ELohim and our heavenly Father. Yahuweh Elohim said, “I AM Yahuweh your ELohim, this is My Name forever.
Elohim= the title of our Creator and Father in heaven. Eng. = God
TeNaK= is the Torah/Prophets and Writings which is written today in English as (Old Testament) but you will not find those words together in the Bible anywhere. The English word “testament” does not mean the same thing as the Hebrew “covenent.” Testament means to testify while covenant is a written contract between two or more parties. So calling the Brit Chodesh the new testament means literally “another testimony.” Paul warned against “another testimony or gospel.”
Brit Chodesh= means Renewed Covenant. In English this is called the New Testament.
Messiah= Yahuweh's Annointed
Yahushua= means Yahuweh is salvation, and if peoperly translated into English would read Joshua, but the translators falsely translated His name as Jesus. Yahushua is the Messiah! This is His name forever.
You can find all these and more in any Strong's Concordance which is a Hebrew to English translator, or you can download one for free at http://www.e-sword.com or .net i am not sure which.
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,17:46) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,10:21) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,17:11) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,05:09) Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,09:28) Pierre,
When there is something i'd like to understand when it comes to knowing YHWH Elohim, i look to the words and works of the Messiah Yahushua.I take those things which the Messiah said and did, then go back to the TeNaK to see how they relate to how we are suppose to live a life set-apart to YHWH ELohim. Once i receive confirmation of those things, i change my actions to doing the will of my Father in heaven, it is only then that i am blessed with understanding, because i am a person who learns by doing, not by reading words on paper. My understanding comes because i am a dedicated Yisra'elite following the Messiah because i love Him.
My belief is founded on “a Rock” not on the decieving doctrines of men who do not even keep the simplist of commands.
I believe Scripture and you will know who i am, by my works. Just as i can pick out a wolf in sheeps clothing by his works. ABBA YAH has blessed me with disernment, to know good from evil, because i am learning to do His will because i love Him.
That discernment can not come to those who say they beieve, but refuse to do His will.
Laurelso what you are saying is ,that you are a fake ,and can not answer anything unless it is in line of your doctrines learned by those who have taught you.
this I do understand.
the truth is the truth and only scriptures provided the truth of God,
we can see the false and fake wen we compere it against the word of God ,IT DOES NOT STAND.
Pierre
Are you calling me a fake because i said i follow the Messiah and the TeNaK which is the Word of ELohim?
LNO,but you are using a langage what is in Hebrew,and here we reading english,
and your interpretation as to be based on scriptures,
Pierre
Pierre,
Ask me any question where i have said something that you do not understand. As i post, i put in parenthsis the English word you are used to. But since i have done that earlier, i do not continue to do it as i continue to write.I'll rewrite some of the basics for you here, so that you will know what i mean when i write the true names, etc…
YHWH or Yahuweh= Our Creator. Also Jahovah, also LORD on the TeNaK. Yahuweh or YHWH is ELohim and our heavenly Father. Yahuweh Elohim said, “I AM Yahuweh your ELohim, this is My Name forever.
Elohim= the title of our Creator and Father in heaven. Eng. = God
TeNaK= is the Torah/Prophets and Writings which is written today in English as (Old Testament) but you will not find those words together in the Bible anywhere. The English word “testament” does not mean the same thing as the Hebrew “covenent.” Testament means to testify while covenant is a written contract between two or more parties. So calling the Brit Chodesh the new testament means literally “another testimony.” Paul warned against “another testimony or gospel.”
Brit Chodesh= means Renewed Covenant. In English this is called the New Testament.
Messiah= Yahuweh's Annointed
Yahushua= means Yahuweh is salvation, and if peoperly translated into English would read Joshua, but the translators falsely translated His name as Jesus. Yahushua is the Messiah! This is His name forever.
You can find all these and more in any Strong's Concordance which is a Hebrew to English translator, or you can download one for free at http://www.e-sword.com or .net i am not sure which.
Lyou say renew covenant and yet Jesus says an new covenant
what would be the difference??
Pierre
Pierre,
Please show me where the Messiah says, “new covenant.”I'll show you proof that the covenent is renewed using Scripture.
Jer 31:31 Behold,H2009 the daysH3117 come,H935 saithH5002 the LORD,H3068 that I will makeH3772 a newH2319 covenantH1285 withH854 the houseH1004 of Israel,H3478 and withH854 the houseH1004 of Judah:H3063
H2319
חדשׁ
châdâsh
khaw-dawsh'
From H2318; new: – fresh, new thing.Now we need to go to the ROOT of the word.
H2318
חדשׁ
châdash
khaw-dash'
A primitive root; to be new; causatively to rebuild: – renew, repair.They are the exact same word in Hebrew. This same word is used elsewhere, so you can see it in context and know that what i am saying is true.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass,H1961 that fromH4480 H1767 one new moonH2320 to another,H2320 and fromH4480 H1767 one sabbathH7676 to another,H7676 shall allH3605 fleshH1320 comeH935 to worshipH7812 beforeH6440 me, saithH559 the LORD.H3068
H2320
חדשׁ
chôdesh
kho'-desh
From H2318; the new moon; by implication a month: – month (-ly), new moon.Look at the Hebrew spelling. The words are all the same. Is the moon new or is it the same moon on a renewed cycle? It is not a new moon every month.
Here is the word new when relating to new, or something newly created.
Num 16:30 But ifH518 the LORDH3068 makeH1254 a new thing,H1278 and the earthH127 openH6475 (H853) her mouth,H6310 and swallow them up,H1104 (H853) with allH3605 thatH834 appertain unto them, and they go downH3381 quickH2416 into the pit;H7585 then ye shall understandH3045 thatH3588 theseH428 menH376 have provokedH5006 (H853) the LORD.H3068H1278
בּריאה
berîy'âh
ber-ee-aw'
Feminine from H1254; a creation, that is, a novelty: – new thing.Here is the root of the Hebrew word for new.
H1254
בּרא
bârâ'
baw-raw'
A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): – choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).The word bara is part of the first word of the Torah. Genesis 1:1 says that “in the beginning” YHWH created the heavens and the earth.
Gen 1:1 In the beginningH7225 GodH430 createdH1254 (H853) the heavenH8064 and the earth.H776
The word for created is “bara.” The earth was new at creation. In the Hebrew Torah the first word is Berasheet which means “in the beginning of creation.”
The renewed covenant is when the Torah is written on our heart and not on stone.
Here the prophet Ezekiel tells of the “renewed covenant.”
Eze 11:17 “Therefore say, ‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “And I shall gather you from the peoples, and I shall assemble you from the lands where you have been scattered, and I shall give you the land of Yisraʼĕl.” ʼ
Eze 11:18 “And they shall go there, and shall take away all its disgusting matters and all its abominations from there.
Eze 11:19 “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh,
Eze 11:20 so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Elohim.
Eze 11:21 “But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master יהוה.The Hebrew word in Ezekiel 11:21 is the Name of ELohim, YHWH or Yahuweh.
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 02 2010,19:05) Pierre,
Please show me where the Messiah says, “new covenant.”I'll show you proof that the covenent is renewed using Scripture.
Jer 31:31 Behold,H2009 the daysH3117 come,H935 saithH5002 the LORD,H3068 that I will makeH3772 a newH2319 covenantH1285 withH854 the houseH1004 of Israel,H3478 and withH854 the houseH1004 of Judah:H3063
H2319
חדשׁ
châdâsh
khaw-dawsh'
From H2318; new: – fresh, new thing.Now we need to go to the ROOT of the word.
H2318
חדשׁ
châdash
khaw-dash'
A primitive root; to be new; causatively to rebuild: – renew, repair.They are the exact same word in Hebrew. This same word is used elsewhere, so you can see it in context and know that what i am saying is true.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass,H1961 that fromH4480 H1767 one new moonH2320 to another,H2320 and fromH4480 H1767 one sabbathH7676 to another,H7676 shall allH3605 fleshH1320 comeH935 to worshipH7812 beforeH6440 me, saithH559 the LORD.H3068
H2320
חדשׁ
chôdesh
kho'-desh
From H2318; the new moon; by implication a month: – month (-ly), new moon.Look at the Hebrew spelling. The words are all the same. Is the moon new or is it the same moon on a renewed cycle? It is not a new moon every month.
Here is the word new when relating to new, or something newly created.
Num 16:30 But ifH518 the LORDH3068 makeH1254 a new thing,H1278 and the earthH127 openH6475 (H853) her mouth,H6310 and swallow them up,H1104 (H853) with allH3605 thatH834 appertain unto them, and they go downH3381 quickH2416 into the pit;H7585 then ye shall understandH3045 thatH3588 theseH428 menH376 have provokedH5006 (H853) the LORD.H3068H1278
בּריאה
berîy'âh
ber-ee-aw'
Feminine from H1254; a creation, that is, a novelty: – new thing.Here is the root of the Hebrew word for new.
H1254
בּרא
bârâ'
baw-raw'
A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): – choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).The word bara is part of the first word of the Torah. Genesis 1:1 says that “in the beginning” YHWH created the heavens and the earth.
Gen 1:1 In the beginningH7225 GodH430 createdH1254 (H853) the heavenH8064 and the earth.H776
The word for created is “bara.” The earth was new at creation. In the Hebrew Torah the first word is Berasheet which means “in the beginning of creation.”
The renewed covenant is when the Torah is written on our heart and not on stone.
Here the prophet Ezekiel tells of the “renewed covenant.”
Eze 11:17 “Therefore say, ‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “And I shall gather you from the peoples, and I shall assemble you from the lands where you have been scattered, and I shall give you the land of Yisraʼĕl.” ʼ
Eze 11:18 “And they shall go there, and shall take away all its disgusting matters and all its abominations from there.
Eze 11:19 “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh,
Eze 11:20 so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Elohim.
Eze 11:21 “But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master יהוה.The Hebrew word in Ezekiel 11:21 is the Name of ELohim, YHWH or Yahuweh.
L1Co 11:25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
Lk 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you
2Co 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Hos 6:7 Like Adam, they have broken the covenant—
they were unfaithful to me there.Hos 8:1 “Put the trumpet to your lips!
An eagle is over the house of the LORD
because the people have broken my covenant
and rebelled against my law.
Zec 9:11 As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you,
I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit.
Zec 11:10 Then I took my staff called Favor and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations.
Mal 2:4 And you will know that I have sent you this admonition so that my covenant with Levi may continue,” says the LORD Almighty.
Mal 2:5 “My covenant was with him, a covenant of life and peace, and I gave them to him; this called for reverence and he revered me and stood in awe of my name.this is Jesus they refer to
Pierre
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Heb 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:18 This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood.
Heb 9:20 He said, “This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep.”
Heb 10:16 “This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”
Heb 10:29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Heb 13:20 May the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep,
Rev 11:19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.Pierre
Laurel,
The new covenant is new because the method of carying out the righteous commands of God changes from human effort to godly effort through the Spirit of God.
As a Jew you should be aware that the Spirit of God is the active force of God, i.e. godly effort. God used that force to create a new people that are righteous as he is righteous and so bring about the Messianic Age when the time is right.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2010,22:05) Laurel, The new covenant is new because the method of carying out the righteous commands of God changes from human effort to godly effort through the Spirit of God.
As a Jew you should be aware that the Spirit of God is the active force of God, i.e. godly effort. God used that force to create a new people that are righteous as he is righteous and so bring about the Messianic Age when the time is right.
Kerwincould you back up what you say with scriptures??
Pierre
Pierre,
Galatians 3:1-3:5 tells the different methods of obtaining the goal of being like God in true righteousness and holiness. The method of human effort used under the law, Galatians 3:12, failed as “no one is righteous” under the law, Romans 3:10-11. On the other hand if you live by the Spirit you will not sins, Galatians 5:16 and thus you will carry out the righteous requirements of the Law, Romans 8:4.
1 Samuel 10:6 is an example of the Spirit of God changing Saul into a different person as well as causing him to prophesize. It could also be one of the scriptures Jews use to support their point of view about the Spirit of God.
I have limited access to a search of scriptures at my current machine due to usage rules so I am unable to go into it any deeper at present. If you would like other points addressed by scripture please let me know what they are.
Kerwin
your scriptures you quoted were not satisfactory ,except 1sam.10 6-7 but it is related to King Saul.
in the case of Paul,he was zealous,committed to God ,not the right way but 100% committed,he was well versed in scriptures,so what did change ??Paul was still zealous,still committed 100% but now he was enlighten with the truth of Christ,he only needed to be put on the right track.
BUT ALL WHAT YOU SAY DOES NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.Pierre
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