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“Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. ” 1 John 2:15-16
Interested in your beliefs on this thanks
Hi and welcome Shimmer,
God is eternal and offers eternal life.
The world and it's needs are temporal and temporary.
Those just focussed on the now are not being led by the eternal Spirit.I agree Nick and thanks for the welcome.
All good things created or caused to be come from above, but all else is from the minds and imaginations of men; idols of stone plastic or steel as is money as is overindulgence of food or entertainment.
Therefore we should have no part of it,
Quote (shimmer @ July 19 2010,11:33) I agree Nick and thanks for the welcome. All good things created or caused to be come from above, but all else is from the minds and imaginations of men; idols of stone plastic or steel as is money as is overindulgence of food or entertainment.
Therefore we should have no part of it,
Hi Shimmer,Welcome to h-net!
Where'd ya get the Avatar?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:06) How about Good intentions? couldnt you agree such things are worldly as well?
Hi SF,Give us an example?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI believe in God, so because i want everyone to be saved i willl force everyone i know to believe as well, by whatever means nessary
***AN EXAMPLE!! i dont honestly believe that!***
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,13:06) How about Good intentions? couldnt you agree such things are worldly as well?
No. As long as they are put into action and good intentions do not become bad.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:24) I believe in God, so because i want everyone to be saved i willl force everyone i know to believe as well, by whatever means nessary ***AN EXAMPLE!! i dont honestly believe that!***
Hi SF,Is that not what most here are doing?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ July 19 2010,06:33) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,13:06) How about Good intentions? couldnt you agree such things are worldly as well?
No. As long as they are put into action and good intentions do not become bad.
Good intentions bring out the greatest evil in this world.everyone believes they are good,
unless they are confronted by Gods commandements, they continue to believe they live a sinless life.
So everyone thinks they are doing good in one way or another.
yet this world is evil?
so arnt there good intentions evil? wordly?
Isnt it evil to force people to believe or threaten to kill them if they dont, even though it would save their lives eternally?
dont you think thats wrong
isnt that also wordly and without loveQuote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37) Ed J,
That's my point
Hi Oxy,Would you then say: they are 'worldly' because of this?
Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,06:40) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37) Ed J,
That's my point
Hi Oxy,Would you then say: they are 'worldly' because of this?
im not oxy,Ed J
did your forget who i am already?I wouldnt know,
God knows the intentions of the heart, only He would know.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:42) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,06:40) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37) Ed J,
That's my point
Hi Oxy,Would you then say: they are 'worldly' because of this?
im not oxy,Ed J
did your forget who i am already?I wouldnt know,
God knows the intentions of the heart, only He would know.
Hi SF,Sorry for calling you Oxy!
Then you should agree that “good intentions” are not necessarily worldly; right?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”
Begin with good intention, be prepared there will be lures and traps, pray for Wisdom to discern and master them,
Then proceed with the good which you intended.
Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,06:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:42) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,06:40) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37) Ed J,
That's my point
Hi Oxy,Would you then say: they are 'worldly' because of this?
im not oxy,Ed J
did your forget who i am already?I wouldnt know,
God knows the intentions of the heart, only He would know.
Hi SF,Sorry for calling you Oxy!
Then you should agree that “good intentions” are not necessarily worldly; right?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I find doing things in your OWN good intentions are harmful, and can hurt people. so it CAN be wordly.when you do things for what you believe without considering others is selfish, God is not Selfish.
When we do things we must do thigns in the INTENTIONS of God not OUR INTENTIONS.
what we think is Good is dirty rags compared to Gods good,
therefore lets not be of this world,and do what God believes is Good, not what we believe is Good.
dont do what seems right, do what God knows is right.
Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.Quote (shimmer @ July 19 2010,07:13) “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” Begin with good intention, be prepared there will be lures and traps, pray for Wisdom to discern and master them,
Then proceed with the good which you intended.
did you know that the Tree of that was forbidden for adam and eve,was the tree of good and evil?
why good?unless mans own good wasnt enough for God?
bc really what good can man do without God?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37)
I find doing things in your OWN good intentions are harmful, and can hurt people. so it CAN be wordly.when you do things for what you believe without considering others is selfish, God is not Selfish.
When we do things we must do thigns in the INTENTIONS of God not OUR INTENTIONS.
what we think is Good is dirty rags compared to Gods good,
therefore lets not be of this world,and do what God believes is Good, not what we believe is Good.
dont do what seems right, do what God knows is right.
Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
So how is one to know the difference?One could start out motivated to do good but something gets in the way; I think its the ego perhaps; as is love of life,
Jesus came as a servant, despite what He was—how much lower are we.
Quote (shimmer @ July 19 2010,13:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37)
I find doing things in your OWN good intentions are harmful, and can hurt people. so it CAN be wordly.when you do things for what you believe without considering others is selfish, God is not Selfish.
When we do things we must do thigns in the INTENTIONS of God not OUR INTENTIONS.
what we think is Good is dirty rags compared to Gods good,
therefore lets not be of this world,and do what God believes is Good, not what we believe is Good.
dont do what seems right, do what God knows is right.
Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
So how is one to know the difference?One could start out motivated to do good but something gets in the way; I think its the ego perhaps; as is love of life,
Jesus came as a servant, despite what He was—how much lower are we.
well exactly we are here to serve not to force servitude.You know the diffrence by getting your bible and asking God,
asking him if its your intentions or not.either way when things by Gods way its will work,
the one way they deteremine prophecy is it by actually coming true.
and when something is not of God it will diminish.when its our ways, there are always flawed and someone gets hurt and we have to deal with the consequences.
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