‘Where is God exactly’ Introduction

Scientists believe that space is something. Even between electrons, there is something. They call it dark matter and dark energy because it cannot be seen.

If you took away all that was visible from the universe, except you and you were able to spin around, what would you be spinning around in relation to? Well that would be space itself. It is said that your arms would still fly out if you spun around because of space itself.

I sometimes think of the universe as layers. What would happen if we went down to the smallest layer what would we find? God? If we went the other way and traveled to the edge of the universe and took a peek, what would we find? God? (I understand that God is invisible, so you wouldn’t literally see him). So perhaps the physical realm is but that which sits between the smallest and the biggest. A certain state that God holds with his Word.

Interestingly enough, The Planck Length describes the limits of the physical realm because if you draw a line from A to B and do so in half distance increments, then you would mathematically be able to travel forever in a straight line and never reach the end. How could that be?

If you divide time or space and keep doing that would it also go forever? Apparently not. There is a length that is so small it is indivisible. When you drill down to the smallest of things, the laws of the physical universe are no longer what you see, thus why Quantum Physics is so hard to understand. Is that an edge or a boundary to the universe if the universe is defined as being governed by physical laws? Because you cannot keep dividing matter and still see matter forever, it stands to reason that there must exist something beyond that and that something would have to be everywhere.

Perhaps beyond this micro boundary and beyond the macro boundary is where God’s Spirit resides. He is the beginning and the end. The smallest and the biggest. He is bigger than the universe and can dwell inside the smallest atom. He dwells in the universe by his spirit and also outside the universe, because even the universe cannot contain him.

Just ideas, and a possible way to see how creation is sustained by God. Unlike the view that God doesn’t exist because we cannot see him, or that God is the Universe itself, this can explain why we can’t see God and  why he is not the atom itself. It also explains how God can be in everything and yet not be everything, rather he can reside in all things as well as be beyond the Universe itself.

Maybe the macro and micro is the place where God’s Spirit resides and he connects the two.

This post has now been compiled into a more extensive writing of the same name.

“Where is God exactly?”

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    Anonymous
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    what i came to understand about where God almighty is ;

    is to me OUTSIDE OF HIS OWN CREATION ;NOT PART OF IT ;BUT HIS SON HIS PART OF IT IN FACT he his the beginning of it ;this Paul describe in Col 1;- the son being the image ,made of similar substance than his father is entirely common sens because their was nothing else prior to the creation of the son ,but it should be also understood that the son his not the same as his father ;he is created the first and so the closes that it could be possible to be to the father ;

    Paul also says that all thing where created through him ;what would it mean through him ??? would he be the agent by which God created all other things or would he be the foundation like Adam was the foundation of humanity ,what the scriptures are saying is that the one that was created the very first was witness of all creation Pro;8; 22-

    but over all what was the real purpose of God to create all things through someone else than himself, we may ask ?

    for that answer we should look to the rules that govern the heavens and those who live there ;

    part one ;

    #805262
    Shayne
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    It has been said that the smallest of the string theory particles are vibrating at a frequency that would emit sound ,,,,As in scripture, would not these particles of immensely small proportion ,be singing the praises of God almighty ???

    I perceive that the Spirit of God and God almighty  ( one and the same )  are on a spiritual plane and NOT a physical plane

    #805522
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Some good reflection from you Shayne 🙂

    #808172
    NickHassan
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    Hi ,

    God is in heaven as that is where Jesus said to pray to Him.

    But as Paul said in Acts 17 He is close to all men.

     

    By His Spirit of course which permeates creation. Ps 139

    #808243
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick, I think this went over your head.

    We all know that God the Father is in Heaven. No one is arguing against that. But scripture says that Jesus mission is to redeem/renew creation so God can dwell in all and by his spirit I imagine. So how is that. Well I postulate that he could be inside the smallest building block of the atom, thus he could reside in all things or matter. Or his spirit has  a place in creation at a certain level where he resides, but is not detectable by our current science. They haven’t even detected our spirit in us.

    People say that science hasn’t found God. In fact they are not even sure they have found the fundamental particle yet. But if they were able to see beyond the smallest particle, what would be there. God’s Spirit, energy, eternally small matter…?

    Further, God is in Heaven, but we are told that not even Heaven can contain him, thus he is not restricted by his own creation. Therefore he could exist outside creation too, but pervades creation by his spirit.

    Some who have had visions of the throne see the son of God, and the glory shining upon him from what appears to be eternity, even outside creation itself.

    Without reading my first post again, I would have thought that I mentioned these points. Perhaps you didn’t read it fully.

    #808249
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    God is not scientific despite your best efforts to teach that He is.

    Yor boxes will never be BIG enough.

    #808253
    kerwin
    Participant

    T8,

    I like philosophy but some of it is nonsense. I do no move at a constantly decreasing velocity and there is a distance so small that it does not make a difference. If I really wanted to go somewhere I would not reduce my decelerate to get there unless I was afraid of overstepping my goal or endangering my or someone or somethings else’s safety. If I did choose to do so for some strange reason I would still reach my destination because as some point the distance between me and it would be irrelevant.

    Scripture us that God is all present but since he created all things that are he existed before there was space or time to be in. In short I cannot comprehend “where” he is but saying he is “all present” is good enough. His center of power is in heaven, even the highest heaven.

    God’s Spirit is not present in unbelievers as their fruit reveals. God Spiritually lives in those who walk by the Spirit through his Spirit. This is different that the idea he is physically all present.

    #808265
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    Did not St Paul in Acts say to unbelievers that “in Him we live,move,and have our being”? and this he was quoting from a Greek philosopher.So all people live in and are actuated by God so his Spirit dwelleth in all and gives them all breath as it is said somewhere else in Holy Bible.

    But surely God is sometimes visiting his son on Planet X and other family members on Venus where I’ve heard that gambling is legal. Or maybe it’s Jupiter that’s associated with gambling.

    #808267
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Andrew,

    Indeed our own spirit comes from the Father of spirits.

    He is aware of our thoughts and intentions by this connection as proverbs tells us.

    But this is not of the Spirit of God . The spirit of man returns to God at our deaths as Ecc 12 shows us.

     

    To be given a share of the Spirit of eternal life is a privilege gained when we are reborn into His Son.

    We need the waters of life that the Son gives.

    #808269
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    And so the waters of life that the son gives is baptism? is that correct according to you? Acts 2:38 boo-ya!

    #808270
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    But where is God exactly? everywhere? in the mystical heaven? in a box in Ethiopia? or under the temple mount? or maybe the magic box is in France,England or even America as brought here by the Knights Templar?

    #808277
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Andrew,

    No.

    The Spirit. Jn 7.39

    #808301
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    So God is actually/exactly in our bellies Jn 7:38? I think I hear him calling and he’s saying “feed me please”.

    #808302
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Andrew,

    Their god is their stomachs rings a bell.

    #808363
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    God is not scientific despite your best efforts to teach that He is.

    Yor boxes will never be BIG enough.

    Nick, science means knowledge. It is shameful how you attack those who seek tho know about God in every way.

    What causes you to attack people’s innocent faith. What spirit are you of?

    Those who are born from above are known by their love. It is Satan who opposes people’s faith.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for the way you are conducting yourself in these forums.

    #808368
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    In what way do you feel personally attacked?

    I am sorry if you feel this way but your expressed beliefs are fair game.

    Test all things and hold fast to what is good.

     

    Seek the Spirit.

    #808430
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick, I am not concerned for me with your attacks, I am concerned for you. That is the truth. God is my witness.

    Some call it bullying what you do here, but I would prefer that you challenge the idea or scripture, rather than judge the person.

    I know that you have chased some off here with these kinds of attacks, but I let it be as everyone is learning and I am not a control freak.

    But the time has come for me to speak up, especially now that you have decided to judge me repeatedly. So I feel I can say something as I am not butting in.

    I am secure in my relationship with God to handle these kinds of accusations and I even listen to them to see if there is any truth to them.

    But a constant barrage of accusations is not from God. This is the Devil’s work.

    You should be concerned about judging everyone on here but yourself. You should move that judgement to yourself, not others.

    Judge yourself and the ideas expressed here. But don’t attack others as that is called bullying.

    If you have no good thing to say, then perhaps there is a lack of goodness in your heart? I don’t know the answer to that.

    But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world.

    #808431
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    It would be best if you also could hear the Spirit.

    Then we could resume dialogue.

    #808432
    kerwin
    Participant

    t8,

    Be careful not to adapt God to the teachings of scientists as they can be and are sometimes wrong. Soft sciences are open to bias than hard science and anything dealing with the past is heavily into the soft sciences.

    #808451
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    “Their god is their stomachs rings a bell” Yes it did ring a bell which is partly why I said  what I did. But you also claim God lives in our bellies right?

    Oh I guess it’s our spiritual bellies he lives in correct? and out of that spirit belly flows living water, and God only knows what else.

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