The Kings of the Middle East

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Who will the new kings and rulers of the Middle East be. What will ultimately rise out of the ashes from the fallen kings of yesterday.

When a weed is plucked up, what naturally grows in its place? Is it not another weed. Unless a good tree is planted, it will be quickly overtaken again by weeds again.

What will be the result of the fallen kings in the Middle East? Will an Islamic Kingdom come out of the ashes? Will the Ottoman Empire that was and is not, rise again? We will see.

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  • #778528
     t8 
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    Ottoman Empire Army

    When a weed is plucked up, what naturally grows in its place? Is it not another weed. Unless a good tree is planted, it will be quickly overtaken again by weeds.

    Who will the new kings and rulers of the Middle East be. What will ultimately rise out of the ashes from the fallen kings of yesterday.

    What will be the result of the fallen kings in the Middle East? Will an Islamic Kingdom come out of the ashes? Will the Ottoman Empire that was and is not, rise again? We will see.

    #778536
     t8 
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    Two years on and it looks like an Islamic Caliphate has arisen. But how successful it will be remains to be seen. ISIS or ISIL has now incurred the wrath of a coalition of nations including the US.

    #779511
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    HEAR YE;HEAR YE WHAT THE PROPHECY HAS TO SAY.

    Isaiah 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
    NO ONE CAN CHANGE WHAT IS SPOKEN BY GOD.

    Isaiah 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
    GOD WILL BREAK THE ASSYRIAN IN HIS LAND(ISRAEL)AND UPON HIS MOUNTAINS. FOR ISRAEL WILL BE TRODDEN DOWN BY THE GENTILES FOR 3/HALF YEARS; AND HE WILL STAMP ON THE CHRISTIANS DURING THE TRIBULATION.

    Isaiah 14:26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. THIS IS GOD’S PURPOSE UPON THE WHOLE EARTH; HEAR YE HIM.

    Isaiah 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? GOD’S WORD ;SHALL NOT RETURN EMPTY.

    Isaiah 14:28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.
    THIS PROPHECY WAS SPOKEN TO ISAIAH IN THE YEAR THAT KING AHAZ DIED.

    Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
    PALESTINA IS NOT TO REJOICE, WHEN ISRAEL WILL BE TAKEN BY THE GENTILES. (ISRAEL IS THAT ROD THAT SMOTE THE PALETINIANS).
    FOR OUT OF THE SERPENTS ROOT,SHALL COME FORTH A COCKATRICE, AND HIS HIS FRUIT A FIERY FLYING SERPENT.
    THE SERPENT IS SATAN THE ASSYRIAN. HIS ROOT IS THE FALSE PROPHET,THE SON OF PERDITION.
    AND HIS FRUIT IS HELL. (SATAN’S ROOT = HIS SHOOT).

    Isaiah 14:30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.
    GOD WILL KILL THEM WITH FAMINE IN PALESTINA; AND HE; THE FALSE PROPHET SHALL SLAY THEM.

    Isaiah 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times. WHAT GATE?? THE GATE OF ISLAM; WHERE MANY ENTER IN, AND BECOME MUSLEM.
    WHEN THE SMOKE COMES FROM THE NORTH; PALESTINA WILL BE NO MORE. THIS WILL BE THE FUTURE OF PALESTINA; FOR SURE.
    WITH NO HESITATION.
    IS PALESTINA NOT MUSLEM? CAN THE FAMILY OF THE NORTH BE, ALSO MUSLEMS? I DONT THINK SO.
    THE FAMILY OF THE NORTH ARE THE NORTHERN ARMIES; THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE.(NATO?).
    SO WHAT ABOUT THIS RHETORIC, A MUSLEM EMPIRE MAY IMMERGE IN THE LAST DAYS?

    Shalom.
    wakeup.

    #779515
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    A muslim empire has already arisen and it reigned for hundreds of years. It defeated the Roman Empire. There is an attempt to resurrect it. Never say never Wakeup. You don’t know how it will all play out. And if not this time, could happen in another time.

    #779521
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    Hi t8.

    There is no more time for another empire to come up.
    The great idea of a one world government is being worked out,and will be here soon.
    It is here; but not confirmed as yet,until he will be revealed, who have to rule the world.
    He will come with great lying wonders,and the blinded world will accept him as the true messiah.
    I can tell this by the scriptures which says that the world will rejoice, and make merry.
    The world will see the two witnesses of God as the antichrist and the false prophet.
    They have been deceived.

    2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    They = the world and deceived Christians of course; For the world don’t know Christ, the gospels, and book of revelation.
    The blided jews will also accept him as the true messiah,for they don’t accept the gospels.

    Can we not see; that his way is being prepared,by bringing in chaos all over the world, and will get worse.
    Then he will show himself and bring peace for one hour.

    wakeup.

    #785173
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    Who will the new kings and rulers of the Middle East be. What will ultimately rise out of the ashes from the fallen kings of yesterday.

    When a weed is plucked up, what naturally grows in its place? Is it not another weed. Unless a good tree is planted, it will be quickly overtaken again by weeds again.

    What will be the result of the fallen kings in the Middle East? Will an Islamic Kingdom come out of the ashes? Will the Ottoman Empire that was and is not, rise again? We will see.

    We now may have the answer. ISIS and its attempt at restoring the Islamic Caliphate. However this can play out in so many ways. ISIS could end up being the invaders of Israel mentioned in Ezekiel leaving Iran to make its move afterward. Who knows. God does. We will wait and see what eventuates. If ISIS invade Israel, then their name of ISIL is more fitting. However, they will lose.

    #785181
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    Stay with the scriptures please, or you will stray off the track.

    Daniel 2:42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

    Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

    Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    After Babylon is destroyed; The kingdom will be set up. Babylon will never ever come up again.

    wakeup.

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    wakeup

    After Babylon is destroyed; The kingdom will be set up. Babylon will never ever come up again.

    stay with scriptures ,do not deviate ; show your scriptures not opinion as you say to others

    #785191
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    Wakeup, the word Arab means ‘mixed’ or ‘mixed people’ and they conquered the iron and mixed with them.

    Not deviating from scripture, but looking at the signs to see if prophecy is taking place. Looking at the signs.

    This is the problem when you suffer from that disease called, “every man is right in his own eyes”. I try to apply eye salve and be open to the signs. Do you want to borrow the ‘eye salve’?

    #785197
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    Maybe so; but Nz and Aust. And the rest of the world are a mixed people too?
    Except in Arabia. Not allowed to settle there.

    wakeup.

    #785200
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    But we didn’t conquer and mix with the iron, (Roman Empire).

    Lots of things are mixed. Context is everything sometimes.

    #785205
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    AUSTRALIA AND NZ are part of the british empire.so is CANADA;USA. THe common wealth nations.
    Do you have crown land there?

    wakeup.

    #785209
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    The biggest difficulty I have with the British Empire view is that it didn’t conquer the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire did.

    #785212
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    The Roman empire was never conquered; His off shoot is the British empire.
    Just as the greek empire was not conquered, His off shoot was the Roman empire.
    Todays British empire is Europe,The Usa,Canada Australia,Nz,,and many small nations.
    The puppet masters are in the inner London.

    wakeup.

    #785228
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    Now you deny basic history by reason of defending your predefined belief. I have seen this many times with people because they are generally stubborn once their mind is made up. Unfortunately with prophecy this can lead to blindness.

    Read about the Byzantine period of the Roman Empire since the days Constantine moved the capital of the empire from Rome to a city named after him, Constantinople. You will see that some 900 or so years later, that the Ottoman Caliphate became and empire when it conquered this city. This empire lasted some 500 years.

    It basically conquered the eastern leg of the Roman Empire and then some, (including the capital city). The Western leg fell into decline. Remember that Rome had two legs. West and East. You make the common mistake that many Westerners fall into, that prophecy is about them. Most of the time prophecies pertain to the Middle East. Look at all the empires in the statue for example. These empires usually enslave the Jews because they exist in the same general area as them, not in the Americas, Australasia, or South-East Asia.

    Now notice how similar the Eastern Roman Empire was with the Ottoman Empire. It was taken over and changed from a form of institutionalized Christianity to institutionalized Islam.

    The seven churches for example were in the area of Turkey and that nation is predominately Muslim today. One tenet of their Holy Book is that God has no son. This is even written in the Dome of the Rock which is situated in the holy place. Denying the son is of the Antichrist spirit and Islam makes no secret of this.

    Those that cannot see the signs are often not interested, blinded by the god of this age, or subscribe to a different eschatology which stops them from seeing the obvious.

    While I am still open minded on this whole subject, I find you rather closed minded in your views and unable to take new information or signs when they come your way. Your earlier words about us being lame on Prophecy only proved to me that you struggle with pride and believe you are right in your own eyes. It is this that is making you blind and whether you can accept it or not, probably the reason for not much engagement in discussion, (at least with me). Note that I am only challenging you to be more open to signs and prophecy that is all. If you are not watching you might not know what season we are in.

    #785230
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    A very great Ottoman empire indeed; but fortunately it is no more with us.
    We are living in the last days; in the days of the feet of the image.
    Which is the British empire, that has been with us now for many years.
    The next coming will be the ten toes, the last empire. (The 8th;) which will be only for 3/half years as written in scriptures.
    The next kingdom coming after the ten toes will be the kingdom of God.
    Not another muslem empire. There is not enough time for an other empire to develop.
    Because The LORD is coming soon.

    wakeup.

    #785252
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    A very great Ottoman empire indeed; but fortunately it is no more with us.

    Revelation 17:8.
    The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.,

    Revelation 17:11:
    The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

    For thousands of years the beast ruled the Middle East. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, and the Ottoman Empire. It was an unbroken reign from one head to another. That is a range of nearly 5000 years from 3100 BC and collapsed in the aftermath of World War I. This is significant. From around 1922 this beast of the Middle East was dead. Today however, we see a concerted effort to restore this last head and we see in Revelation that the eighth king is of the seventh.

    My point is this. This theory ticks many boxes and is on track to tick the outstanding ones. Because of this, it is a worthy contender and anyone who says otherwise has to be blind. Being a contender does not make it right or the winner among other contenders, but we would do well to watch and see and always be ready to respond in the way God wants when prophecy takes place.

    IMO, anyone who writes off history and present events because they are invested in an alternate theory is being foolish. Is it not the case that one can keep their eyes open to current events and also look for signs that other theories may be correct? Of course. Only a stubborn fool holds onto the theory they have been first exposed to or invested most time into.

    I realise that not all are teachable and look for signs of the times. Many join a religion and follow a theory because they like certainty. That is okay, but you lose certainty by doing so because you can be unable to change when signs point to another direction. What should be certain is that we are teachable everyday and ready to accept changes when they come. It is wisdom to do so and wisdom is treasure in the heart.

    Many hold to their theories because they have invested too much time in them and cannot bear to think of them as wrong. This is a common carnal trait of mankind. Scientists do it all the time. Most breakthroughs were first persecuted and questioning the established theories is a no no at first. What happens when you question Evolution or Global Warming today. Usually ridicule. I am being honest when I say that I see the same behaviour with you Wakeup. You ridicule other theories and mock people as being only 5% worthy of understanding prophecy with yourself being the standard for truth.

    Pride makes people blind. Let us wakeup and open our eyes to what is happening in the Middle East. If you do not think what is happening there is significant, then you are free to do so, but I want to be wise and watch for the signs of the times. Even the sun and the moon are pointing to something significant in this time.

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    Today we see Russia in alignment with Iran and Syria. Both these countries that Russia is aligned with are enemies of Israel. Could we be witnessing the beginnings of Ezekiel 39?

    1 “Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5 You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. 6 I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the Lord.

    7 “‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the Lord am the Holy One in Israel. 8 It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign Lord. This is the day I have spoken of.

    9 “‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. 10 They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign Lord.

    11 “‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east of the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.

    12 “‘For seven months the Israelites will be burying them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land will bury them, and the day I display my glory will be a memorable day for them, declares the Sovereign Lord. 14 People will be continually employed in cleansing the land. They will spread out across the land and, along with others, they will bury any bodies that are lying on the ground.

    “‘After the seven months they will carry out a more detailed search. 15 As they go through the land, anyone who sees a human bone will leave a marker beside it until the gravediggers bury it in the Valley of Hamon Gog, 16 near a town called Hamonah. And so they will cleanse the land.’

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    And are we witnessing the fulfillment of Isaiah 17?

    A prophecy against Damascus: “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins…

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