https://heavennet.net/members/vicalcabasa/activity/ Activity feed for vicalcabasa. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 15:08:38 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 bdf96ef104b40f8dd279eaf8785364c5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/64/#post-8238 Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:20:21 +1200 Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 01 2005,18:55)Peace greetings ALL!, I myself do not believe that Yahshua (Jesus) pre-existed from the beginning was a co-creator with Father Yahweh and that he was eternal, but that he was begotten of Father Yahweh (born of a woman –  Galatians 4:4; Revelation 12:4). I do not believe that Yahshua was Yahweh's spokesman…[Read more]

]]> 6cfbdc44a1c00554a4ce910f41e6953f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/64/#post-8225 Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:32:43 +1200 WHat about the godhead occurs three times in the scriptures (Acts 17: 29, Rom. 1: 20, Col. 2: 9, KJV). Is he the father or the triune God?

]]> b6200e6e5b89b8930de8f0f06688e535 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/63/#post-8211 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:27:53 +1200 Quote (epistemaniac @ July 27 2005,22:37)ahhhh…. so now you have the gift to see into men's hearts and to know whether or not they have “sincere attitudes”…. I see… well since the ability to see into belongs solely to God; (1 Ki 8:39 NKJV)  “”then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive, and act, and give to everyone according to…[Read more]

]]> c4f802524925a0d8d913d5d728935192 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/59/#post-8140 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:49:30 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 27 2005,03:55)Nick,If you do not repent of the denial of His name, you will never be resurrected in His image and glorified.You will be resurrected, but in your old image -minus mutations- for all Adam will be resurrected in their own bodies from the dust of this creation to stand at the judgment.If you have denied Him, He will…[Read more]

]]> abc9b96fdaca0f65203d2ef57a541640 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8137 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:12:07 +1200 Quote (epistemaniac @ July 27 2005,00:23)“So if Jesus is called the Son of God, where did the title 2nd person of the trinity comes from?Is the revelation of the Bible not enough that we should coin another title or description for him? Or are we adding to the already revealed Word of God?”Don’t even start with the “that word or phrase is not fou…[Read more]

]]> efdfa2f0623dbecb0a6791fd9a4f0e3a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8136 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:04:19 +1200 Quote (epistemaniac @ July 26 2005,22:26)t8, you said “The point is that even if he were equal to God as you are saying then that shows that he is not God. If you are equal to anything then it shows that you are not that thing you are equal too.”Exactly! The point here is that while Jesus is equal to God in regard to His essence, He and the Fat…[Read more]

]]> 102778c530950dc3cad05b90d320d8d7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8135 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:59:34 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 26 2005,17:02)Quote (Guest @ July 26 2005,11:59)Main Entry: equal·i·ty Pronunciation: i-'kwä-l&-tEFunction: nounInflected Form(s): plural -ties1 : the quality or state of being equal2 : EQUATION 2a Main Entry: 1equal Pronunciation: 'E-kw&lFunction: adjectiveEtymology: Middle English, from Latin aequalis, from aequus level, eq…[Read more]

]]> e10662bbc2bfe972b23a297f37e71a11 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8134 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:58:28 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 26 2005,21:40)Quote (epistemaniac @ July 26 2005,21:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2005,05:34)Hi E, “He did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped”Now simple reading of that phrase suggests he is not currently equal wiith God. It suggests he has to grasp equality to have it. Certainly the greek supports that idea…[Read more]

]]> 3e558510e779ebe307761ea577480faa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8132 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:55:22 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 26 2005,18:13)Quote (Guest @ July 24 2005,23:29)Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 24 2005,17:04)You don't count your WORD as another person, do you?  Do people relate to your WORD in one way and to you in another way?The simple answer of course is both NO. So what do we have here?We have one God, One Person Speaking. Just one and only…[Read more]

]]> cadb50d8c2b69fdd2290b5433d641eb9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/58/#post-8130 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:50:53 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 26 2005,18:13)Quote (Guest @ July 24 2005,23:29)Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 24 2005,17:04)You don't count your WORD as another person, do you?  Do people relate to your WORD in one way and to you in another way?The simple answer of course is both NO. So what do we have here?We have one God, One Person Speaking. Just one and only…[Read more]

]]> 93a5a08be26faa3705cc4168022c8aaa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/56/#post-8106 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:41:28 +1200 Quote (epistemaniac @ July 26 2005,05:26)vic, a passage that speaks of the equality of the Son with the Father is (Phil 2:6 NASB)  “who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,”Jesus existed in the form of God…. pretty straightforward right? “Christ existed in the “form of God” (morphe,…[Read more]

]]> 411054f1c773f6e9c67b136b383dd413 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/56/#post-8095 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:12:04 +1200 You’re beliefs are well crafted and very elaborate. I give that to you. But all of this is still founded in your view that The Father is equal to the Son and equal to the Spirit. Three beings in one Godhead.Let me enumerate some popular passages…1.  “ I was brought forth …” The wisdom of God speaking in prov 82.   I came from the Father3.  …[Read more]

]]> 902a1f4a6bcab517d423d253de2979bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/54/#post-8068 Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:12:46 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 25 2005,06:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2005,05:30)Hi, So our new heavenly body is like to his, cut and torn and punctured? That does not seem like an imperishable body to me.1Cor 15.50″ Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable”Jesus…[Read more]

]]> 6bc2e80bd347fa914e7325bdea0c3d30 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/52/#post-8034 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:45:32 +1200 So the bible is right!One God and Father of allOne Lord and Saviour Jesus Christand One Spirit united .but not the 3 in 1 variety.

]]> 8a337f09aacce0dd5686aa7ca2a75b74 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/51/#post-8033 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:04:48 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 23 2005,22:54)Quote (Guest @ July 23 2005,18:11)Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 23 2005,10:05)Quote (Cubes @ July 22 2005,20:19)You don't count your spirit as another person, do you?  Do people relate to your spirit in one way and to you in another way?hi cubes,I think IAR should really answer this question.I thought I had made…[Read more]

]]> 2a59b045b2ca40278970d28a66457c96 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/49/#post-8000 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:33:13 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 23 2005,17:18)His goings forth have been from everlasting -from eternity- says God; and only God inhabits eternity; all other creatures whom He created have their dwelling place created for them to inhabit; but eternity has no beginning, for God inhabits eternity, and God has no beginning; and from eternity, YHWH of hosts has…[Read more]

]]> 5e51ddb880564759450b0f36a986801d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/49/#post-7984 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:05:17 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 22 2005,20:19)You don't count your spirit as another person, do you?  Do people relate to your spirit in one way and to you in another way?hi cubes,I think IAR should really answer this question.

]]> 481a45aedc1be503fc8c259274116300 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/48/#post-7983 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:59:29 +1200 Hi I am redeemed,You're understanding of the verse Here o Israel, the LORD our GOD is ONE LORD, is there are three divine beings in these phrase if are to look to its original hebrew wordings.How come the jews have never understood it that way afterall it was their native language.? never explained it that way. never teach it that way. even up to…[Read more]

]]> 1f840f6e09bd48ba5b9023ab3c8790cd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/48/#post-7982 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:51:19 +1200 Quote (liljon @ July 22 2005,17:31)Spirit is Person. The bible describes him as one. Jesus is YHWH because The bible says he is.hi i,isn't it that the Holy Spirit derives it personality and divinity from the FAther?

]]> 4782f4f72214837d377807c930a47481 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/48/#post-7981 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:49:08 +1200 Quote (Guest @ July 22 2005,20:41)Please note: YHWH of hosts is sent by YHWH of hosts, and YHWH of hosts is coming to dwell in your midst (in Jerusalem); sent by YHWH of hosts.If you deny this, then are you claiming a created angel is YHWH of hosts, sent by YHWH of hosts?So you have two Persons, YHWH of hosts, one sent, the other sends.One comes,…[Read more]

]]> 294db6bfbc385a70141cc444d5ec8ffb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/45/#post-7929 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:40:53 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 21 2005,18:38)Amen, Vic.  But could you please clarify the last two sentences for me?Sure cubes,YHWH is not JesusYHWH is the Father of JEsusand Jesus is the son of the Father, the one true living God.Father is not JEsus. THe FAther is in Jesus. (THe fulness of God dwells in Him)i search search search searh, i think think think…[Read more]

]]> 2e9292bca847020dd50f3348915209c1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/45/#post-7923 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:02:38 +1200 1 Cor 8:66 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. One God the father FROM whom all things came One Lord Jesus Christ THROUGH whom all things cameThe father FROM whom all things Jesus Christ THROUGH…[Read more]

]]> 19be71b2da1281d5148ea2cd7733ae6d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/45/#post-7922 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:59:54 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2005,20:52)Hi I, 1Jn 4.2″By this you will know the Spirit of God;every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God;this is the spirit of the antichrist”If your doctrine says YHWH has come in the flesh that doctine,by scriptures…[Read more]

]]> 15e23739cb30b9498a9c57754f901c62 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/44/#post-7918 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:39:09 +1200 POINT NO. 4In this verse you prove that Jesus the Second man whom is Lord (YHWH) from heaven.he first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven (King James Version)I look on other versions here they are…1 Cor 15:47-48The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. NIV1 Cor 15:47The first man is…[Read more]

]]> 195b913429d12298c6a0f282e5edd3d4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/44/#post-7917 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:33:58 +1200 POINT NO. 3You believe that the YHWH Moses and the Israelites saw in the dessert is the incarnate Jesus. You arrive at this conclusion because YHWH is invisible, therefore there must be a second YHWH, for how could you explain the visible YHWH Moses saw? You explain.Why don’t we use scriptures to explain this seemingly contradicting passages. W…[Read more]

]]> 5f64ada0835836c347db3dffec7ffaa1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/44/#post-7916 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:31:27 +1200 POINT NO. 21. The word ELOHIM.  I have already posted its definition by the International Standard Bible Ency .  to be brief here is the conclusion of that….It is the reasonable conclusion that the meaning is “might” or “power”; that it is common to Semitic language; that the form is plural to express majesty or “all-mightiness,” and that it is…[Read more]

]]> d71c46da43aedc7446a0d352652541be http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/44/#post-7915 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:13 +1200 Hi YHWH is Jesus advocatesAfter reading your lengthy posts, let me enumerate several points that occur again and again in your posts that were used to support your beliefs that YHWH of Host is the incarnate Jesus. To wit;1. Your interpretation of the word. ECHAD.2. Your interpretation of word ELOHIM3. The scripture that said that Jesus is the…[Read more]

]]> b469cc947d27bc89efa43dbc7b327de3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/43/#post-7892 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:51 +1200 'Elohim, “God”: This is the most frequently used name in the Old Testament, as its equivalent theos, is in the New Testament, occurring in Gen alone approximately 200 t. It is one of a group of kindred words, to which belong also 'El and 'Eloah. (1) Its form is plural, but the construction is uniformly singular, i.e. it governs a singular verb or…[Read more]

]]> 5583956fd8112f908b3dea5bc00055e8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/43/#post-7891 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:18:52 +1200 Quote (Christofer @ July 20 2005,02:20)Where is YHWH applied to the Father?I will tell the promise that the LORD made to me.You are my son, because today i have become your Father.Psalm 2:4

]]> 8311fe584e03bb266be00d33c2516736 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/43/#post-7890 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:04:27 +1200 Quote (Christofer @ July 20 2005,04:25)Quote And Yeshua is demonstrated in these scriptures not to be YHWH so I think you need to accept that at face value. If no man had seen the Father – yet Isaiah saw Yahweh – who is Yahweh -at face value? Yahweh can't be the Father without Jesus being made a liar – can He?  This is something I have been…[Read more]

]]> 428988a3ee047ab6cf552e3dd098e677 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/41/#post-7854 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:51:29 +1200 Quote (liljon @ July 19 2005,23:01)Exodus 4:1 And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee. God himself was that “Angel” (messenger).20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” -NIV Ex 33:20If YHWH is the angel…[Read more]

]]> 282998a78cdb8fa8494b4bcbf1f9253b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/41/#post-7853 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:33:55 +1200 Epi, I’m sure we can all agree that Jesus pre-existed even way before the Old Testament. He pre-existed before time as the Word of God. The Word was with God in the beginning. We can also read in the bible that the Holy Spirit has divine attributes and personality as well. And of course there’s the Father.And these scriptures post a problem bec…[Read more]

]]> 446f0a0338b376c8682b95fcadb933a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/40/#post-7830 Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:53:01 +1200 11 The LORD (YHWH) would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent. NIV Ex 33:11-1220 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” -NIV Ex 33:2037 “This is that Moses who told the Israelites, `God will…[Read more]

]]> 36037e545c9c15c054619f81fb3ef58b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/40/#post-7827 Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:22:36 +1200 Rev 5:5-75 and one of the elders said to me, “Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals.” 6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the…[Read more]

]]> 61661f1c703fb5f6e9653464a8399500 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/40/#post-7812 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:47:19 +1200 hi guest 2,on the contrary your conclusion is not simple.So if YHWH is a person and the father is a person and the holy spirit is a person and the word is a person, that would make 4 persons in all, right?unless of course you want to make it mystical and complicated by explaining to me the mystery of the 3 in 1 godhead.

]]> bc15cefd3c03771d66d3729f56e5930f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/40/#post-7811 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:32:36 +1200 hi epistemaniac,If Scripture say He's mighty God. i have no problem with that.as to why he was called such, cubes renditions' suit fine me just fine.All i'm saying is that YHWH is not JEsus Christ.Now if you mean to say that because he was called mighty God and conclude that He is aslo YHWH. I must admit I have a problem with that proposition.…[Read more]

]]> 342d29e4207930c44e4b5572efeca0f9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/40/#post-7809 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:14:53 +1200 Hi epistemaniac,I must have missed something. why do ask me this question? I agree with the scriptures.”why is Jesus referred to as the mighty God then vic?Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be calledWonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,…[Read more]

]]> c1945fb56eba2fdfe431cde1e2a5e1c3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/38/#post-7786 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:11:19 +1200 this could be a case of mistaken identity which comes from the close relationship of YHWH to JESUS, let me enumerate as many as I can remember…1. YHWH and JESUS are both Divine2. What ever YHWH has, Jesus owns3. JESUS is the exact representation of YHWH4. JESUS is the image of the invisible YHWH5. JESUS was with YHWH in the beginning6. YHWH m…[Read more]

]]> 701f884d5c23325dbb18b4a01110489e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/38/#post-7782 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:09:28 +1200 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his p…[Read more]

]]> 6bba827a7b12a944a095c639ff83c14e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7767 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:00:11 +1200 Hi everybody.With regards to the pre-existence of Jesus, my thoughts are these…If you regard time as part of creation, meaning time was created at the same time as space and matter. Then the scriptures that say Jesus was before the creation, would mean that He was beyond time and therefore with God ever since. For to me, to be outside of time is…[Read more]

]]> 8e34ce5da4c4cf2419e001a9dd6a0b8b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/try-making-a-post/page/2/#post-7757 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:13:39 +1200 test

]]> aa476d6de4891fcb40ffc003be400dc4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/try-making-a-post/page/2/#post-7756 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:13:00 +1200 Quote (kyo83 @ May 28 2004,06:40)Hey everone, Just to test this thing out…. test 123

]]> 433bfb4487e1b606369ffdcc832f72c7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/10/#post-10105 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:06:41 +1200 Hi,allow me to share my thoughts on this topic…The Holy Spirit is simply what he is… God's Spirit. This simple truth can be best understood if one approaches the scriptures without the preconcieved belief that God is a trinity and there are 3 distinct personal dieties in one Godhead. But even if the Bible speaks about God the Father, Son and…[Read more]

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