https://heavennet.net/members/truebelief4u/activity/ Activity feed for truebelief4u. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 e2c2b0cb3db2e15182112d54191f0602 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nephilim/page/3/#post-14064 Wed, 24 May 2006 22:30:53 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2005,03:43)Hi, I think this matter deserves a forum of it's own. We are told in Gen 6 that ” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown” The sons of God…[Read more]

]]> ee3dee4ff12e52afbc08e4df7ed7e630 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/co-equal/page/4/#post-25898 Fri, 05 May 2006 17:32:29 +1200 Nick…you said above: “But scripture also says in 1 Jn.4.9″By this we know the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through him”I understand your take on this, and many believe that Yashuah existed before birth to Mary. I have a question, though…since “begotten” means…[Read more]

]]> df11eb7e782c095b20bd2beda70bb3da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/co-equal/page/4/#post-25897 Fri, 05 May 2006 17:27:46 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2006,18:47)Hi Is 1.18, Is God greater than you in any and all senses?Is God greater than the Son of God Jesus Christ. Jesus said he was.That excludes them sharing the same being, God as surely God could not have unequal parts?So where is the equality?The”equality” exists only in the imaginations of the “trinitarians.”

]]> 25feebe088808906b2e88e7c1cac057b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/6/#post-12966 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:37:57 +1200 Quote (Ramblinrose @ April 13 2006,19:32)Maybe it would be best to refer people to the following article in answer to this topic.Virgin Birth – True or False – Fact or FictionYHWH BlessGood link…..very interesting!

]]> 8060dfbf5df3b13ef70d54753fc78698 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/2/#post-12964 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:32:31 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2006,03:25)Quote (truebelief4u @ April 26 2006,19:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2006,15:45)Hi tbfu, Then what does “only begotten” mean to you?Pre-existence is a silly term. Surely a being exists or it does not. When you say “pre-existed” you really mean “existed in a form prior to visible physical existence?”We…[Read more]

]]> c1808158bd3a086e576ced1be661923b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/2/#post-12957 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:10:46 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ April 27 2006,02:31)Hello everyone,Question:  If the Word (Jesus, Michael or the word) did not exist before He was begotten then what is this scripture saying Joh 17:5  And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee “before the world was”.See: http://www.wrestedscriptures.com/b08trinity/jo…[Read more]

]]> c7fc53b7d6dd14c14f36f659e51c7d2c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/6/#post-12955 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:38:07 +1200 Quote (malcolm ferris @ April 23 2006,07:30)Quote (Woutlaw @ April 17 2006,18:24)A name represents a person, the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ according to Acts 2:38?Malcolm, If you're trying to make a connection between Matthew 28:19 and Acts 2:38 I have a serious disagreement with you. Oneness people do this to try to…[Read more]

]]> 807814ba6d97bcce01e76804b1ba452d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/2/#post-12953 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:14:40 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2006,15:45)Hi tbfu, Then what does “only begotten” mean to you?Pre-existence is a silly term. Surely a being exists or it does not. When you say “pre-existed” you really mean “existed in a form prior to visible physical existence?”We know God did and the angels do. Why is it so hard to grasp what we cannot see with…[Read more]

]]> d61de8f1b0737f94354a5ab73be5d3c4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/2/#post-21243 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:12:36 +1200 Unless I am mistaken the only thing Jesus told us to celebrate was communion.1.  “Christmas” is not even his birthday, anyway…and there was no command to celebrate his BIRTH. Not to mention the “Christmas tree” is purely a pagan symbol and a “no-no!”http://www.gotquestions.org/Christmas-tree.html2.  What makes you think “Sunday” was the day of t…[Read more]

]]> 771bca43bc6fa5da1d0699dadba617b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/6/#post-12930 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:58:03 +1200 Well, dumbo me had to go and look up “conceive.” Arrrrggggghhhhh!!!!The New Testament Greek Lexicon Found 8 entries matching: conceive English Translation Original Word Transliterated Word 1080 conceived gennavw gennao 2192 conceived* e

]]> d5e5d53bf5c4a4e0c0c4c6d8b3b642ba http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/struggling-with-lust/#post-42485 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:43:34 +1200 Quote (Woutlaw @ April 23 2006,23:49)Hi guys,As some of you may know, I'm a very open person. I don't like to be fake or hide behind a mask. I have no problem being open about my struggles. My biggest struggle is lust. I live in America, and men here are constantly being bombarded with sex 24/7. You can't turn on a tv, or read the newspaper, or go…[Read more]

]]> 67e6e67a8c3c3d6242b71780d6b1e828 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thief-on-the-cross/#post-12929 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:39:45 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ April 25 2006,10:41)It seems to me it's like faith without works.  I don't know anyone who met Jesus our Lord and didn't want to share Jesus with everyone.When we accept Jesus we want to be baptised.  I don't think the theif had any choice Jesus forgave his sins right there without water.  It's the heart that matters.The thief wa…[Read more]

]]> 51947ff8336a567dd94b1db295075e56 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thief-on-the-cross/#post-12928 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:33:51 +1200 Quote (Woutlaw @ April 24 2006,16:43)absolutely Malcolm,I was baptized in a UPC church and they gave me one of those stupid birth certificates, I pitched it!!!! It's pointlessWhat…you trashed your baptismal certificate? Shame, shame! Just curious, but HOW were you baptized? Using the formula in Matthew 28:19, or as it states in Acts, “in the…[Read more]

]]> 5f20914618a05f63770f7a707cbec193 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/3/#post-12927 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:27:47 +1200 Quote (Ramblinrose @ April 26 2006,05:12)The following are articles that support the 'sign of Jonah' being three days and three nights and a Wednesday crucifixion.Leaving Babylon – The Sign of JonahGood Friday is a Myth – Part 1Good Friday is a Myth – Part 2Ramblin….you're right on top of this, aren't you! Glad to see I'm not the only one…[Read more]

]]> 2e0dae214d79db122dd28458c74ade3d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-it-a-cross-that-jesus-died-on/page/2/#post-12925 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:00:31 +1200 Quoting from David's post on the first page:The book The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons (London, 1896), says: “There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an o…[Read more]

]]> 9af15026ec701aa04bc8c2574c54fdc3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/3/#post-12924 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:15:15 +1200 Quote (liljon @ Mar. 28 2006,04:06)wednesday will not work and simple looking at the gospels will show this .Jesus repeatedley said he would rise THE THIRD DAY. http://www.bible.ca/d-3-days-and-3-nights.htmEsther 4-5 will show that three days and three nights doesn't nescarily have to be 3 full twenty four hour days.You're not checking the links.…[Read more]

]]> ee5edcd809184070f0983245e24aa67b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/#post-12911 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:02:23 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2006,03:07)Hi tbfu, Please can you make up a list of the figures of speech that are found in the bible. If there are things that appear to be true but are not because they are just an idiom of the language then we need to be able to recognise these things clearly. Otherwise there is ahe danger that we might believe…[Read more]

]]> 494f6e45f9efebe2965b4f6c2e1b4de7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/#post-12835 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:05:10 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2006,03:21)Hi tb4u, Yes because the Son of Man was resurrected and became the “firstborn from the dead” we too can follow him into his death and become his brothers and sons of God too.Right! Nick…there is an argument for Jesus NOT being “God” that I think pretty well covers it…not sure if you have ever heard it,…[Read more]

]]> 6a28d532afa1cde89aaf6681fef5cb96 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/#post-12834 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:59:08 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2006,03:19)Hi tb4u, If so, and he only existed from the moment of his human conception then why does scripture record the Son was sent into the world?1Jn 4.9″…God sent His only begotten Son into the world..”I would say (my opinion) is that is simply a figure of speech.

]]> cdaac144820e0ae86b7b3c02780ee4a9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/#post-12817 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:17:36 +1200 God's Son….in the sense that he was conceived through the action of the holy spirit (God's active force).If he were NOT “God's Son,” then his death/resurrection would mean nothing.

]]> 891db800bb6f73def159c890a3d0a97f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/unity/page/2/#post-12416 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:55:53 +1200 Nick…I have managed to lose the thread!!!! So I weill post this here instead! Sorry about that.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2006,02:50)Hi tb4u,How was the Word with God in the beginning?Who is the only begotten Son of God?What does”only begotten” mean?When did the Son of God become a son? How is it that the Son proceeded from God and was…[Read more]

]]> 0f0794650e8339ec823ae73594854ead http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/12/#post-19870 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:18:41 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2006,05:41)Amen. Would it not be great if this truth was grasped again by sincere searchers who want to follow Christ?Nick/Ramblin Rose……Good stuff!!!!! “Christianity” is busily shooting itself in the foot, and very few who sit in the pews today are at all interested in “truth,” whatever it may be. I have seen…[Read more]

]]> 1b17f161915b55d63e3f81bd5899a326 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-doctrine-development/page/7/#post-18523 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:05:55 +1200 Also regarding the “trinity,” let us not forget that Jesus DIED, and it was GOD who resurrected him……I don't think this makes them “equal!!” Never mind all the verses where Christ himself stated very clearly that the Father was GREATER than he.Roman 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that…[Read more]

]]> 49365bf53e2f0d66b6d4dfe201fcb367 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-doctrine-development/page/7/#post-18522 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:58:50 +1200 Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 10 2005,23:44)Quote (MichaelTheeArchAngel @ Dec. 09 2005,18:53)How can a person come to know the truth when they dont know the difference between an opinion or fact. Many times I have given the facts about different subjects, and still people say that is your opinion. Unless a person says to themselves, I want to know what the…[Read more]

]]> 57cfb909d8b9fea4418212c4adffed23 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/co-equal/#post-25849 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:52:25 +1200 Quote (Lisa @ Oct. 17 2005,21:18)Is Jesus co-equal with the Father?Christ himself stated very clearly “the Father is greater than I.” This verse alone is sufficient to show they are not “equal,” though there are a great many verses like this that also illustrate the fact the Father is greater than the Son.”You heard that I said to you, 'I go…[Read more]

]]> b0f7d584b42a7d9b6afbadbb43187247 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/12/#post-19867 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 19:22:58 +1200 Woutlaw, and all…….The Book of Acts makes it pretty clear the correct thing is to baptize “in the name of Jesus.” In fact, if one makes the false assumption that Matthew 28:19 is a valid verse, then there is a direct contradiction between that verse and the entire Book of Acts. Matthew 28:19 and 1st John 5:7, among other verses were…[Read more]

]]> 0c27d7b9d1de0ce873f0ab46a3f635ab http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scripture-seeker/page/2/#post-19557 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:00:29 +1200 There is a reason for my signature…..”There is an immense difference between one who thinks, and one who merely parrots what they have been told by others. Are you thinking…..or parroting?”I once was taken in by all these “doctrines,” myself….and then an ex-Catholic Priest asked me why do you “parrot” the inanities of man? Do some thinking…[Read more]

]]> 8a1081804b9450513efa679d5e57a9bc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scripture-seeker/page/2/#post-19556 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:54:21 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2006,09:22)Hi SS, Scripture says Jesus has a God.Jn 20.17″..I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God”If Jesus is our God who is His God in an equal trinity?Just another nail in the coffin of the great “trinity” doctrine….when will most Christians realize that to even ATTEMP to defend this…[Read more]

]]> cc2d82d2d118d471cc55698139d05e4d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/22/#post-12263 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:34:25 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ April 01 2006,11:36)If He will not blot out does that mean He will?Rev 3:5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the b…[Read more]

]]> d17eeae430c735aa87a84e45418c6a11 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/21/#post-12216 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:52:32 +1200 Nick…Have you read this? This was a big influence on me.http://lig1.tripod.com/lee/early/leeearly.htm

]]> 4122f30e285848c1a75cc6996593262d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/21/#post-12215 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:50:32 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2006,01:35)Good stuff guys, But we should never appear before the White Throne /sheep and goat judgement seat. That is a mercy Judgement of those who rise in the SECOND resurrection. Those who are saved there are from the world-“all the nations”.They are the final remnants saved.It is the second resurrection that is…[Read more]

]]> cb35b9a9171b9d0f48beb374b0491ce6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/21/#post-12206 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:05:47 +1200 David….good stuff! For those who “pay attention” to what Scripture actually says, it would be difficult to come to a belief that you are “instantly saved,” or that “once saved, always saved,” both of which are absolutely ridiculous doctrines and it is a sad state of affairs when the “churches” pass these doctrines off as being real, and…[Read more]

]]> 6793b854f1e917e6d3ed25e896ce78f1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/11/#post-19858 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:01:50 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2006,08:49)Quote (sandra @ Mar. 31 2006,00:28)This is absolutely facinating, Why was the Book of Revelation almost not considered Canon?Hi Sandra,The personal opinion it would seem by whoever was in charge at the time. It does upset some people as does all scripture at times.You will find a few sites to look through if…[Read more]

]]> cbcf97cf66cd1f61cc4670e91ad6701c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/21/#post-12204 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:35:13 +1200 Sunnyb…You stated: “Once you are born again it is permanent just like you could not be reborn physically, so if you decided to do nothing with it the rest of your life, and be a “couch potato” for God, then you would still be saved.”Ummmm…..This  is  what most churches teach these days….which helps them in their “feel good” faith.  …[Read more]

]]> 2f548e3dddd5e8597102f2bdb57b37c0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/3/#post-12057 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:46:44 +1200 Quote (Sammo @ Mar. 28 2006,03:11)Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 27 2006,10:04)I agree the day he died is a small thing but I'm concerned for you. Jesus was always very careful with His words and I cannot begin to believe that He would even use a “figure of speech”, that would misrepresent the truth. Especially with it being so specific on 3 nights.…[Read more]

]]> db629c20123a04905f8844a811869d99 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/3/#post-12052 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:08:18 +1200 QUOTE FROM ABOVE: “Luke 23:43 (NASB) says, “And he said to him, ‘Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in Paradise’”, indicating that Jesus will be with the malefactor in Paradise later that same day. But if the comma is moved to the other side of “today,” an entirely different emphasis results: “Truly I say to you today, you shall (in…[Read more]

]]> f0d34ca6c4731d2569422e857fdce264 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/3/#post-12051 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:03:15 +1200 Quote (Sammo @ Mar. 27 2006,06:33)I go into that in the thread – basically the Jews counted inclusively, so Friday, Saturday, Sunday would have been described as 3 days.I didn't dream that up for myself – you can look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting. It's fairly well established I think.It's likely that the phrase “three days and three…[Read more]

]]> 1df604d395fb47c59f0088d2ca0640c4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights/page/2/#post-12012 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:16:52 +1200 OK, let's follow the BIBLE here…..(YOU look up the verses, I'll just plunk them out there at you!) 1. Christ made his last entry into Jerusalem on Sunday (what we call Palm Sunday).2. “After two days was the Passover.” Add two days to Sunday and you get Wednesday, the day on which Christ was crucified.3. The day after the crucifixion was a…[Read more]

]]> 3911a966b5e5edbeb7a614d83d6b1200 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-holy-spirit-a-person/page/3/#post-38627 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:12 +1200 I'll probably get blasted for this, but I'll say it anyway….what I see in quite a number of posts in this forum overall are “personal interpretations” that attempt to make the Bible say whatever the person wants it to say or mean, and they ignore the context, or they ignore the fact that a number of verses are just plain spurious…..they are…[Read more]

]]> 47a8c65059abb8d10d3f8b86510edcbf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-holy-spirit-a-person/page/3/#post-38625 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:11:14 +1200 According to the Hebrew understanding for thousands of years, throughtout the O.T., the “spirit” was a “thing,” not a person. Why would this suddenly change in the N.T.? The “personification” of the “spirit” is a product of the church, not the Bible….No Hebrew or Jew ever considered (nor do they consider it today) the spirit to be a “person.”

]]> 1af41c6bf1eb37503d5c9ca40d1def31 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/10/#post-19843 Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:49:34 +1200 Quote (david @ Mar. 22 2006,03:46)Yes, i know the spuriousness of this verse.Quote David……Is 1:18 is a name? How do you figure that? truebelief4u, you asked: 'What does Is 1:18 got to do with any of this?'I had been mentioning “Is 1:18” a lot, as that is a member's name and I was referring to him. I thought you were confused about that.…[Read more]

]]> da828051928b951909f9d6b640a9f358 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/10/#post-19840 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:17:51 +1200 David……Is 1:18 is a name? How do you figure that? The topic is 1st John 5:7….a verse which wasn't even in the text until the 16th century. This verse, along with Matthew 28:19 are the primary verses the “trinitarians” attempt to use to support their defense of the “trinity.” The problem is, BOTH of these verses are deliberate additions…[Read more]

]]> 4eff2bc79902dc3ac6f6bacb6931290e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/10/#post-19838 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:01:36 +1200 What has Is 1:18 got to do with any of this? Is 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.How does this relate to 1st John 5:7?

]]> 25ba67a36869b159a560c97792007b41 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-we-die/#post-11556 Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:58:11 +1300 Hi all……You know, just “asking the question” shows there is confusion over this issue, and that people simpy aren't reading (or paying attention) to Scripture.MANY “believe” they go straight to heaven? WHY do they believe this? Certainly not because they find it in the Bible. They believe it because that's what the(ir) “man-made church” has…[Read more]

]]> ddd08c0ed913ff3b19de05bd3a0dfa05 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/9/#post-19827 Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:06:15 +1300 Like the man above said……..tuff to argue with that!

]]> 718ea7cb8058dd1f1fada590560f62ce http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/9/#post-19820 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:12:43 +1300 Ramblinrose: OK…..actually we are basically in agreement, because the “spirit” could just as well be described as being the “mind of God,” as being His “active force/will.” Got no problem with that at all! Everyone…….this is a bit off-topic, but what do you all think of the concept that Jesus had no “special powers” until AFTER he was…[Read more]

]]> 8a099c3562bf698eb34fd437999f55eb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/8/#post-19818 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:17:08 +1300 Quote (Ramblinrose @ Feb. 11 2006,08:24)I see it as follows:Elohim = YHWH = Holy Spirit = WordThere is only one Elohim – Almighty YHWHDeut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our Elohim is one YHWHYAHSHUA = Man = Messiah1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ JesusYahshua is given the title 'Word of Elohim'…[Read more]

]]> 7dad4ec788f2ee944d38f03a1923a4f2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/8/#post-19816 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:06:20 +1300 And how the heck do ya change the clock on this infernal machine anyway……it's the 10th, not the 11th!!!!!!!!!! Arrrgggghhhhhh.

]]> 07a350a31eb0d87680062b9531ecb44d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/8/#post-19815 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:01:47 +1300 Addendum……………from mostly Catholic sources.Various sources acknowledge that the Bible does not support the idea that the holy spirit is the third person of a Trinity: Please note the following:The Catholic Encyclopedia: “Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person.”Catholic theologian Fortman: “The Jews…[Read more]

]]> 0b2f561447f42e3f7e17fb80dbe34eda http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/8/#post-19814 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:20:21 +1300 Rough night…… OK……Is 1:18; What “hypothesis?” That the “spirit” is a thing rather than a person is not a hypothesis…..that is precisely what the Hebrews and early Christians believed. Whew, there are so many illustrations of this I don't even know where to begin! Here are a few quick links…..if you need more, just…[Read more]

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