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[Tony M]

“Truly this man was the Son of God”. Are these your words?

Yes they most certainly are. I didn’t know about the reciting the 1st verse of a Psalm tradition. That certainly gives Jesus words even more meaning

[Tony M]

@kerwin

This was my thinking that first got me to question the trinity.  If Jesus was God then how could he have been tempted by Satan because no matter what test Satan brought against him there would be no way that he could’ve given in to temptation. That would make it no actual test at all.

[Tony M]

terraricca & t8

The one thing I appreciate about having been a JW is that they taught me that the trinity wasn’t true. I disagree with their belief that Jesus is Michael the Archangel due to Hebrews 1:8 though. I beliveve God is the Father & Jesus is entirely separate & is God’s Son. Humans always have to complicate things. Disagreement on doctrines creates yet even more church denominations, more divisions between Christians. Sad really.
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[Tony M]

Hebrews 1:5 was one of the scriptures, among others, that convinced me to leave the WT

[Tony M]

“Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith.”

This is a point the JWs make in their “Should You Believe In The Trinity” brochure. Aren’t all those who believe that Jesus is God obligated then to also accept the Catholic teaching that Mary is the Mother of God? Seems just as reasonable as believing that the Son is also God.

[Tony M]

Yes that worked thanks heaps. I previously just entered https://heavennet.net & it automatically picked up the sitewide feed with no option of any other to choose from. I need to have all the blogs I visit in my RSS Reader otherwise my 55yo brain would never remember them all.

[Tony M]

I was already a Christian for 10 years prior to becoming a JW. As such I had been taught & believed all the regular orthodox beliefs/doctrines. It was many of their basic teachings that I felt were scripturally correct that convinced me that they were the true religion that they claim to be. 20 years later I no longer agree with so much of what you come to learn/believe AFTER baptism into the religion, often not until many years after. I honestly think that when Charles Russell began to study the Bible independently with his small group of International Bible Students (as they were then called) did discover that many of the doctrines of orthodox Christianity were erroneous . Things such as the truth about Hell, Jesus not being God etc. However, Russell later went too far & declared himself God’s Only Channel of Truth on Earth. He then began writing The Watchtower magazine & other books & really went way off track as he developed many teachings that were absolutely ludicrous. The current Governing Body of the JWs are no different today as they go way beyond what the Bible actually teaches in formulating there “Must be believed” doctrines.

[Tony M]

@t8  I can really related to what you said in your reply to David “But die hard religious people who do not question get all upset about it.”

I’m left the Jehovah’s Witnesses 2 months ago after being part of it for the past 20 years. By asking sincere questions about certain doctrines because I genuinely felt they were at odds with scripture It was amazing how angry fellow JW’s would get at me. I eventually decided to leave & wrote an official letter of Disassociation (resignation) to the body of elders in our congregation. For all my JW FB friends not in our local congregation & due the the shunning rules against those who leave I simply posted on FB that I no longer considered myself a JW & that if they wanted to unfriend me that was up to them but regardless I still loved them as fellow Christians. I couldn’t believe the angry nasty replies that were posted by many of them because of my decision.

A few weeks later I began attending a modern Christian church & have been to a few different ones now but I still find it a bit awkward as while I have rejected the Watchtower & the authority of their Governing Body in Brooklyn I still believe many of their basic beliefs. I have come to realize that the Church is a worldwide thing that is beyond denominational boundaries & the pastors of these Churches acknowledge that too. While I am not in full agreement with some of their doctrines such as the trinity they still accept me as a Christian & welcome me to worship there.  From reading several of your posts it seems that I am in agreement with much of what you believe.

Great post too as I’ve seen the Matrix movies & I can understand & grasp the lessons you have pulled from it. I never thought of any of that when I watched it but can now see what you mean.

-Tony

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